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What Bible says about Quran ?
1 Thessalonians 5:

19 Do not put out the Spirit's fire;
20 do not treat prophecies with contempt.
21 Test everything. Hold on to the good.

Leviticus 19:18

"'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.

Compared to:

Jeremiah 24:2

One basket had very good figs, like those that ripen early; the other basket had very bad figs, so bad they could not be eaten.

If there is a need to say, from that above it may be thought that when reading some explanations of scripture a person should separate the parts that are true from the parts that are false in the explanations and "Hold on to the good." and that there should be no biased judgement.

Quran 5:8 English translations


•Arabic: يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كُونُوا قَوَّامِينَ لِلَّهِ شُهَدَاءَ بِالْقِسْطِ ۖ وَلَا يَجْرِمَنَّكُمْ شَنَآنُ قَوْمٍ عَلَىٰ أَلَّا تَعْدِلُوا ۚ اعْدِلُوا هُوَ أَقْرَبُ لِلتَّقْوَىٰ ۖ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ


•Sherali: O ye who believe ! be steadfast in the cause of ALLAH, bearing witness in equity; and let not a people's enmity incite you to act otherwise than with justice. Be always just. That is nearer to righteousness. And fear ALLAH. Surely, ALLAH is Aware of what you do.


•Khan: O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Well-Acquainted with what you do.


•Pickthal: O ye who believe! Be steadfast witnesses for Allah in equity, and let not hatred of any people seduce you that ye deal not justly. Deal justly, that is nearer to your duty. Observe your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is Informed of what ye do.


•Rashad: O you who believe, you shall be absolutely equitable, and observe GOD, when you serve as witnesses. Do not be provoked by your conflicts with some people into committing injustice. You shall be absolutely equitable, for it is more righteous. You shall observe GOD. GOD is fully Cognizant of everything you do.


•Maulana: O you who believe, be upright for Allah, bearers of witness with justice; and let not hatred of a people incite you not to act equitably. Be just; that is nearer to observance of duty. And keep your duty to Allah. Surely Allah is Aware of what you do.


•Sarwar: Believers, be steadfast for the cause of God and just in bearing witness. Let not a group's hostility to you cause you to deviate from justice. Be just, for it is closer to piety. Have fear of God; God is Well Aware of what you do.


•Shakir: O you who believe! Be upright for Allah, bearers of witness with justice, and let not hatred of a people incite you not to act equitably; act equitably, that is nearer to piety, and he careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is Aware of what you do.


•Yusufali: O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.


•Omar: O you who believe! be steadfast, upholders of the right for the cause of Allâh, bearers of true witness in equity, and do not let the enmity of a people move you at all to act otherwise than equitably. Be equitable (always); that is nearer to being secure against evil, and take Allâh as a shield. Surely, Allâh is Well-Aware of what you do.


•Ahmed: O you who believe, stand up as witnesses for God in all fairness, and do not let the hatred of a people deviate you from justice. Be just: This is closest to piety; and beware of God. Surely God is aware of all you do.


•Aziz: Allah has promised to those who believe and work righteousness, that for them is forgiveness and a mighty reward.


•Daryabadi: O ye who believe! be maintainers of your pact with Allah and witnesses in equity, and let not the hatred of a people incite you not to act fairly; act fairly; that is highest unto piety. And fear Allah; verily Allah is Aware of that which ye work.


•Haque: O People who Believe! Firmly establish the commands of Allah, giving testimony with justice - and do not let the enmity of anyone tempt you not to do justice; be just; that is nearer to piety - and fear Allah; indeed Allah is Well Aware of your deeds.


•Unal: O you who believe! Be upholders and standard-bearers of right for God’s sake, being witnesses for (the establishment of) absolute justice. And by no means let your detestation for a people (or their detestation for you) move you to (commit the sin of) deviating from justice. Be just: this is nearer and more suited to righteousness and piety. Seek righteousness and piety and always act in reverence for God. Surely God is fully aware of all that you do.


•Asad: O YOU who have attained to faith! Be ever steadfast in your devotion to God, bearing witness to the truth in all equity; and never let hatred of anyone lead you into the sin of deviating from justice. Be just: this is closest to being God-conscious. And remain conscious of God: verily, God is aware of all that you do.

Quran 5:8 Translations - Holy Quran

Anas relates that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “None of you truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî and Sahîh Muslim]

The importance of this hadith:

Al-Jurjânî says about it: “This hadith is one of the foundations of Islam.”

Myth #25: Muhammad rejects the Golden Rule and his teachings forbid befriending non-Muslims

Anas relates that Prophet Muhammad said, “None of you has faith until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.” [1] Some critics assert that “brother” in this Hadith refers only to fellow Muslims, but nothing supports this presupposition.

Prophet Muhammad said, “‘Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is oppressed.’ The Prophet was asked: ‘It is right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?’ He replied: ‘By preventing him from oppressing others.’”

Myth #25: Muhammad rejects the Golden Rule and his teachings forbid befriending non-Muslims | Muhammad Fact Check
 
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وإذا بدلنا ءاية مكان ءاية والله أعلم بماينزلقالوا إنما أنتمفتر بل أكثرهم لا يعلمون


Wa-itha baddalna ayatan makana ayatin waAllahu aAAlamu bima yunazzilu qaloo innama anta muftarin bal aktharuhum la yaAAlamoona

16.101 And when we changed a verse in place (of) a verse, and 'allah' is most wise with what (he) sends down, they said: 'Only you are (the) one who fabricates lies.' But most of them they do not know.


The god 'allah'.....the fabricator of lies, as declared by the authors of the Koran.


 
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The Holy Bible is required to correct & clarify the Koran in all manner of things...
 
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I believe in kuran due to many reasons. One is that in Kuran, writer challenged the human, if i am wrong then write atleast 3 verses like Kuran. And you can take help from everyone. And total verses in Kuran are 6666. And then Kuran says you can't do this.
 
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I believe in kuran due to many reasons. One is that in Kuran, writer challenged the human, if i am wrong then write atleast 3 verses like Kuran. And you can take help from everyone. And total verses in Kuran are 6666. And then Kuran says you can't do this.
Any so-called challenge from the Koran is fully embedded in Biblical material to begin with...
 
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وإذا بدلنا ءاية مكان ءاية والله أعلم بماينزلقالوا إنما أنتمفتر بل أكثرهم لا يعلمون


Wa-itha baddalna ayatan makana ayatin waAllahu aAAlamu bima yunazzilu qaloo innama anta muftarin bal aktharuhum la yaAAlamoona

16.101 And when we changed a verse in place (of) a verse, and 'allah' is most wise with what (he) sends down, they said: 'Only you are (the) one who fabricates lies.' But most of them they do not know.


The god 'allah'.....the fabricator of lies, as declared by the authors of the Koran.


16.101 And when we changed a verse in place (of) a verse, and 'allah' is most wise with what (he) sends down, they said( non believer of Kuran): 'Only you are (the) one who fabricates lies.' But most of them they do not know.


Here Kuran says the when we change a verse with verse, non Believer of Kuran, says that this is not GOD's Book but It is written by Muhammad s.a.
 
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First you want to know this.
What Bible says about Quran ?
Then this.
Ok and is Bible have any prediction about Muhammad PBUH?
And this.
Ok, what are main believes of Roman catholic?
Then you let us know how bad you were at even the easiest of research.
I already google, but didn't understand.
And then the lies become more apparent, like this.
In which i am intresting, is reality. And I know only one religion is truth. Rest are fake, but which religion ?
And then another lie.
i want to know about bible. How many books in bible? And what are thier name?. i found on google 40 to 60. But didn't understand. So i am here to live chat with all you.
And more.
Why some of you scare from me. I am here only for learning perposes. And how am i fake anyone have any prove to prove me fake.
And then blow some smoke up someone's skirt.
QUOTE=MuhammadNasir;2725534]Thanks,
You'r a soft heart man. You Have good manners, soft heart for people and for everything, also you have good care of family if you have.

I am here since today morning. I got some info from google. But google can't teaches us as human.

And converting to a religion is a slow proccess and very difficult decision, i think you know.

Be Connected to GOD,[/QUOTE]
And finally after this mountain of fresh-from-the-dairy-farm compost, you get to what you wanted all along... proselytizing in the inadequate of ways.
I believe in kuran due to many reasons. One is that in Kuran, writer challenged the human, if i am wrong then write atleast 3 verses like Kuran. And you can take help from everyone. And total verses in Kuran are 6666. And then Kuran says you can't do this.
I wasn't buying much of your spiel to begin with. Now you just proved you have as much interest in learning this as you would have in learning how to breed mosquitoes in the Antarctic!

I'd tell you the list of why your attempt at proselytizing wouldn't work, but I don't believe you are Islamic, named Muhammad or are as old as 18 even. I've seen you on here before with another name, but I don't remember any of your previous names, because you weren't worth remembering. You're not even an interesting enough troll to remember.
 
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16.101 And when we changed a verse in place (of) a verse, and 'allah' is most wise with what (he) sends down, they said( non believer of Kuran): 'Only you are (the) one who fabricates lies.' But most of them they do not know.


Here Kuran says the when we change a verse with verse, non Believer of Kuran, says that this is not GOD's Book but It is written by Muhammad s.a.

Not in the Arabic.

But....you don't know any Arabic.
 
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First you want to know this.

Then this.

And this.

Then you let us know how bad you were at even the easiest of research.

And then the lies become more apparent, like this.

And then another lie.

And more.

And then blow some smoke up someone's skirt.
QUOTE=MuhammadNasir;2725534]Thanks,
You'r a soft heart man. You Have good manners, soft heart for people and for everything, also you have good care of family if you have.

I am here since today morning. I got some info from google. But google can't teaches us as human.

And converting to a religion is a slow proccess and very difficult decision, i think you know.

Be Connected to GOD,
And finally after this mountain of fresh-from-the-dairy-farm compost, you get to what you wanted all along... proselytizing in the inadequate of ways.

I wasn't buying much of your spiel to begin with. Now you just proved you have as much interest in learning this as you would have in learning how to breed mosquitoes in the Antarctic!

I'd tell you the list of why your attempt at proselytizing wouldn't work, but I don't believe you are Islamic, named Muhammad or are as old as 18 even. I've seen you on here before with another name, but I don't remember any of your previous names, because you weren't worth remembering. You're not even an interesting enough troll to remember.
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I asked question like this, but thes can't prove me wrong. And i have my Face book ID you can check my id. And i don't have any other id here.
 
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fb.com/muhammadnasir.zerozeroseven


Above my id
 
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I learned something over the weekend that early islam had allah as a black rock,and four rocks around it. One was a woman,or sun god,and the other 3 were allah's daughters.

Allah,being the moon God.

Now,muhammed did away with this slowly. So as not to alarm the peasants in the desert.
 

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Muhammad Nasir


John 20:21 Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you...."

Your question from post # 1 -
What Bible says about Quran ?


Revelation 22:18 And I solemnly declare to everyone who hears the words of prophecy written in this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book.
Deuteronomy 4:2 Do not add to or subtract from these commands I am giving you. Just obey the commands of the LORD your God that I am giving you.
Deuteronomy 12:32 So be careful to obey all the commands I give you. You must not add anything to them or subtract anything from them.
Proverbs 30:6 Do not add to His words, or he may rebuke you and expose you as a liar.

Your question from post #4 - Ok and is Bible have any prediction about Muhammad PBUH?


Matthew 24:24 For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God's chosen ones.

Deuteronomy 13:1-3 / 5 Suppose there are prophets among you or those who dream dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles occur. If they then say, 'Come, let us worship other gods'--gods you have not known before-- do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you truly love him with all your heart and soul. The false prophets or visionaries who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, ...


Your questions from posts #8 & # 12
#8 - Ok, what are main believes of Roman catholic?




#12 - I already google, but didn't understand.



Both Islam/Catholicism have a works based belief system. You as an individual must do specific things to get to Paradise/Heaven.

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness (works) are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Your statement of belief in Islam and questions from post #18 - Actualy, I believe I am right in Islam. And you believe your right. But what is the reality ? Why we follow many religions instead of one ?


Acts 4:12
There is salvation in no one else! God has given no other name under heaven by which we must be saved."

Your question from post #25 - In which i am intresting, is reality. And I know only one religion is truth. Rest are fake, but which religion ?

John 14:6
Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.

Your statement from post #44 - My meaning of "we" is humanity.

Galatians 6:5
For we are each responsible for our own conduct.

Muhammad Nasir
I have a question for you
You, as a muslim, believe that Jesus lived but that he was only a prophet. You have also been told in your Quran that Jesus did not die on the cross. You are also told that the Quran is divine, that it is an earthly copy of the divine tablet in heaven and that it was revealed through the prophet Mohammed. So, according to that belief the Quran is in a sense the divine in material form. Why then, Muhammad Nasir, is that not also possible for a human (Jesus)?

John1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Be Well

cavil









 
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Ok and is Bible have any prediction about Muhammad PBUH?
here is one...

deuteronomy 18:20..."But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."
 
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Actualy, I believe I am right in Islam. And you believe your right. But what is the reality ? Why we follow many religions instead of one ?
history shows that christianity was established long before islam...so clearly islam is the innovation...

why did muhammad start a new religion and add to the problem of many religions?
 
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Cavil51

Hera some verses of Quran,

Chapter 3 The family of Imran سورة آل عمران - Aal-e-Imran: Verse 45
إِذْ قَالَتِ الْمَلَائِكَةُ يَا مَرْيَمُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُبَشِّرُكِ بِكَلِمَةٍ مِنْهُ اسْمُهُ الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ وَجِيهًا فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ وَمِنَ الْمُقَرَّبِينَ
Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;




Chapter 4 The Women سورة النساء - An-Nisa: Verse 157
وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا الْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُمْ بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًا
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-



Chapter 5 The Table Spread سورة المائدة - Al-Maeda: Verse 72
لَقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۖ وَقَالَ الْمَسِيحُ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ ۖ إِنَّهُ مَنْ يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ الْجَنَّةَ وَمَأْوَاهُ النَّارُ ۖ وَمَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ مِنْ أَنْصَارٍ
They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.



Chapter 4 The Women سورة النساء - An-Nisa: Verse 171
يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لَا تَغْلُوا فِي دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ إِلَّا الْحَقَّ ۚ إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَاهَا إِلَىٰ مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِنْهُ ۖ فَآمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِ ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا ثَلَاثَةٌ ۚ انْتَهُوا خَيْرًا لَكُمْ ۚ إِنَّمَا اللَّهُ إِلَٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۖ سُبْحَانَهُ أَنْ يَكُونَ لَهُ وَلَدٌ ۘ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.



Chapter 3 The family of Imran سورة آل عمران - Aal-e-Imran: Verse 59
إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُ مِنْ تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُنْ فَيَكُونُ
The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.

Chapter 9 Repentance سورة التوبة - At-Taubah: Verse 30
وَقَالَتِ الْيَهُودُ عُزَيْرٌ ابْنُ اللَّهِ وَقَالَتِ النَّصَارَى الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ اللَّهِ ۖ ذَٰلِكَ قَوْلُهُمْ بِأَفْوَاهِهِمْ ۖ يُضَاهِئُونَ قَوْلَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ قَبْلُ ۚ قَاتَلَهُمُ اللَّهُ ۚ أَنَّىٰ يُؤْفَكُونَ
The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!


You can see All Verses about Jesus
Isa in the Quran - Quran Search


Your question.

Quran consist of words of ALLAH. Muhammad PBUH recieved Quran through the Angel Jibrile. And We recieved through Muhammad PBUH. So Jesus Also prophet of GOD. He has Also book from the GOD. But His book was re-wrote( some orignal material change with fake) after Him. And you know Son of God is Impossible, Logicaly. 1. God is not mortal, but Jesus is mortal.2. it is not Good for God to born through a creation, and how can does a God born ?. GOD is Super power, but jesus have not powers like God. I have limited knowledge.


Actualy, frankly, we(humanity) are the creation of God. God Loves us. He loves peacefull people. Love of God is more Powerful. Every one is here with a perpose, so we need to find our perpose. Love u cavil. Be connected to God.
 

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Our little muslim talks like Tarzan with every sentence but knows how to correctly spell the word "their" when using it in a possessive manner. Dumb troll isn't even smart enough to troll correctly.
 
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I believe in kuran due to many reasons. One is that in Kuran, writer challenged the human, if i am wrong then write atleast 3 verses like Kuran. And you can take help from everyone. And total verses in Kuran are 6666. And then Kuran says you can't do this.
exactly what are the criteria for any three verses to be considered 'verses like the quran' and be deemed to fulfill the quran's challenge?

it is easy to issue a 'challenge' without actual rules...because you can make up the rules as you go along...
 

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Hey troll, respond to post #76 or go home.
 
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Dear RachelBibleStudent,

This is wrong logic. If i said why Jesus start a new religion?.

Muhammad PBUHU star a new religion, because people change the orders of God for their own purposes. you know Paul was not a prophet..
 

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Post #76, Tarzan.