Big Bang Biblical???

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I believe in a similar but less popular theory called the Big 6 day Kaboom theory
 

Sharp

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I'm not sure that the big bang theory fits in with the bible.

The big bang theory says that in the first seconds/minutes of the explosion there were really high temperatures. Wouldn't this mean that the matter would be really bright? And wouldn't this mean that there would have been light right at the point of inception? I'm not sure.

But the bible says that when God created the world it was dark initally. "The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep"........"And God said, 'Let there be light'".
 

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#43
Not a big bang, just a big voice. God said "Let there be light", and there was light!

God said let there be each thing, and it was so. And it was a 6-day thing. No need to believe anything otherwise.
 
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For additional interest, you can read up on the Gap Theory but I wouldn't get my head wrapped up in these things. When we go to Heaven, we'll find out. In the meantime, there are more important things to deal with. ;)
I'm just saying, because it is very interesting to be able to turn to someone who believes in the big bang and be able to agree with them on some scale. Mot for the sake of agreeing, but for the sake that you have now been given another way to share your faith. I got to share with my science teacher this way, even though she rejected christianity right then and there, I still got her thinking.
 
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greatkraw

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I did not read the entire thread, but based on the book "A Brief History of Time" I have found reason to believe in the Big Bang Theory, just not in the atheistic sense. I do believe the universe is infinite... I guess. I also believe it is expanding, as physics has shown. If it was not moving outward, it would have to be infinite, static and motionless to keep it from collapsing on itself at an accelerating rate. It is not motionless, so therefore the gravity would be imbalanced... yada, yada, yada.

As many have said, the BB Theory started out as a Christian defense. The Holy Spirit and the Word of God created the energy that set thing sin motion. God created Creation, but the motion of the Universe suggests that all things were sent out from one place. There is no reason to throw out the baby with the bath water.

The same way modern science does not have to be at war with God, the Big Bang Theory does not have to exclude God.
Scientific investigation has moved on since that book. With help of the Hubble telescope it has been concluded that the universe is definitely FINITE.

Those who understand these things know that that is one more indicator of a designer. The same observation appears to suggest we are near the centre of the finite universe. Because the ungodly do not like that idea either, they postulate a warping of space so that it has no edges. (Like a mobius strip or klein botttle type of concept) They prefer this concept rather than the fluke that we could be near the centre. The problem with that assumption is that it defies occams razor.

Time

It has been proven by experimant that Einstein was correct about the relativity of time. This means that time can go at different rates (and in different directions) in different parts of the universe. The Earth is provably less than 10,000 years old but the universe may be some other age.
 

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#46
Big bang Theory is biblical!!!
but its not elaborated.....
 
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greatkraw

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I think people are being a little unfair. The Big Bang is a theory (a work in progress) and not pretending to be established fact.
The biggest problem the ungodly have is that they discount God's involvement in creation. There are learned people on here who will agree that it would actually have been noiseless. No sound in a vacuum.

Anyone who watches Stargate will know about ZPMs
This refers to the fact that even an empty volume of space with no particles in it whatsoever still contains a huge amount of energy. Take away the energy and that space collapses and ceases to be.
When God spoke creation into being he put that energy there.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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I think people are being a little unfair. The Big Bang is a theory (a work in progress) and not pretending to be established fact.
The biggest problem the ungodly have is that they discount God's involvement in creation. There are learned people on here who will agree that it would actually have been noiseless. No sound in a vacuum.

Anyone who watches Stargate will know about ZPMs
This refers to the fact that even an empty volume of space with no particles in it whatsoever still contains a huge amount of energy. Take away the energy and that space collapses and ceases to be.
When God spoke creation into being he put that energy there.
And who upholds it all? I think you know, 'greatkraw', yes it is Christ, who holds all things together by His word, which agrees with all scientific investigation, in fact He is holding me together right now, all 70 trillion cellls in my body held together by the word of God. Amen.
 
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greatkraw

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And who upholds it all? I think you know, 'greatkraw', yes it is Christ, who holds all things together by His word, which agrees with all scientific investigation, in fact He is holding me together right now, all 70 trillion cellls in my body held together by the word of God. Amen.
True. They have no explanation for the fact that all the protons in a nucleaus don't just fly away from each other. They talk about 'nuclear glue' like they understand what is going on

or they could just read Hebrews 1:3

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power,
 
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True. They have no explanation for the fact that all the protons in a nucleaus don't just fly away from each other. They talk about 'nuclear glue' like they understand what is going on

or they could just read Hebrews 1:3

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power,
Sums it up really, a mighty equation.
 
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Lifelike

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So, I was recently talking with my science teacher and she was trying to persuade me that the big bang was for real. I was totally against it when i went into the conversation, but by the end I had some different thoughts. For instance it never says in the bible how God created the earth, it just says that he did. So, who's to say that he didn't spin the earth into motion through the big bang? Now I'm not saying that I agree with evolution cause I absoloutly do not. But I am wondering why so many christians I know hear about the big bang and right away say no. It's quite possible that God created the earth through a bang, is it not? I just kind of want some thoughts on this. Thanks guys. God bless you.
haha i reckon when "God said" and when this material world was brought into being, there probably was a big BANG but its the anti christ, or christ resistant spirit of man - seperated from God, not wanting to made accountable, running from God that i see at the core of mans pursuit to search out the origins of this universe. (rebellion - the truth is made plainly known by what is created that god exists, in other words they know but they deny, in their hearts) not just that though, thats just one spritual dynamic at work, the is a lot off innocence and wonder in sciebtific discovery and pursuit. we are so multi dimensional, and God judges all as it really is ;) We are innocent yet guilty. we just need to be vigilant in our own pursuit of God, so that we can discover His Truth and allow it(Him) to be revealed in us - His sons. ;0 all the world will know at some stage.
 

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Y'all are aware that the Big Bang theory came about because a Catholic Christian priest was pondering the creation story in Genesis and what he thought about while reading the words, "Let there be light!" eventually became the Big Bang Theory. In a sense, it's a scientific retelling of the first day of Creation.
 
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secretofyah

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big bang is quite plausible. Yahweh is not one to snap His fingers and presto chango there's earth. The 6 days of creation are not 6 24hour periods but 6 eras of creation. Yahweh is timeless and his beautiful work of art we call earth took a very long time to get it to habitable conditions. a day as you read it in the bible is not always a literal 24 hour day but is sometimes used as a euphamism such as "back in the day" and "in the day when Yahweh created the heavens and the earth", hello it took 6 days not one but the bible calls it a day.so yes you are quite right about how He did it.
 
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One of my pastors said something along the lines of "explosions don't create, they destroy", and everyone in the church agreed.

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your church obviously does not understand physics very well.
Or conservation laws.
 
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#56
Y'all are aware that the Big Bang theory came about because a Catholic Christian priest was pondering the creation story in Genesis and what he thought about while reading the words, "Let there be light!" eventually became the Big Bang Theory. In a sense, it's a scientific retelling of the first day of Creation.
this may the original idea, but it has evolved quite a bit from that point.
 
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So, I was recently talking with my science teacher and she was trying to persuade me that the big bang was for real. I was totally against it when i went into the conversation, but by the end I had some different thoughts. For instance it never says in the bible how God created the earth, it just says that he did. So, who's to say that he didn't spin the earth into motion through the big bang? Now I'm not saying that I agree with evolution cause I absoloutly do not. But I am wondering why so many christians I know hear about the big bang and right away say no. It's quite possible that God created the earth through a bang, is it not? I just kind of want some thoughts on this. Thanks guys. God bless you.
Well I guess the obvious difference is one of the tenets of Big Bang Cosmology and that is you need a very long period of time for the chonological framework - approx 13 billion years. Which does not really fit the Biblical Chronology. Also The Bible is Geocentric and has the Earth being created before the sun, the moon and the stars and also it has God as a Creator, a personal individual intelligent eternal being, whereas the Big Bang cosmology is devoid of a Creator.
 
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your church obviously does not understand physics very well.
Or conservation laws.
Yeah, I know. I was tempted to explain to him why his comment was completely stupid, but my shyness wouldn't allow me.
 
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Yeah, I know. I was tempted to explain to him why his comment was completely stupid, but my shyness wouldn't allow me.
Awe lame :(, just do what I do and copypasta a random meme.

ie tell him to do a barrel roll
 
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Awe lame :(, just do what I do and copypasta a random meme.

ie tell him to do a barrel roll
Some terms you use make me think you're a geek.

That sounds like an insult, but it isn't. I love internet/computer savvy people.