Book of Enoch, chapter 6

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Chapter 26

And I went from thence to the middle of the earth,
and I saw a blessed place in which there were trees with branches abiding
and blooming of a dismembered tree.
Enoch 26.1
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..... And i saw a blessed place in which there were trees with branches abiding and Blooming of a dismembered tree"

Meaning: Whoever wrote this is a Blooming Idiot, kin to the village idiot as well..
 
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RBA238 said:
..... And i saw a blessed place in which there were trees with branches abiding and Blooming of a dismembered tree"

Meaning: Whoever wrote this is a Blooming Idiot, kin to the village idiot as well..
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sir, to say you believe the book is not authentic would be your right.
to insult the author, if it is authentic, could be bad for you. just saying.
Enoch was really loved by God. be careful.
 
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And the angels, the children of heaven, saw and lusted after them [daughters of men],
and said one to another:
Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men
and beget us children.
Enoch 6:2

(your thoughts?)
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Not good
Not good at all
 
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Chapter 26

And I went from thence to the middle of the earth,
and I saw a blessed place in which there were trees with branches abiding
and blooming of a dismembered tree.
Enoch 26.1
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Oh, it's a Middle-Earth book? I'm not sure those are Bible canon.
 
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I wonder. Who could it have been who decided what should be included in the Canon of The Word of God

You think maybe the Holy Spirit directed what should be included
 
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true. but who made the canon you have now?
who decided?
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I read a book by Thomas Paine, he said, "The books that now compose the New Testament were voted for by yeas and nays, as we now vote a law."

All in the purfuit of happinefs, I suppose.
 
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how does this help
The above response now implies the invalidity of The Word of God!
 
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Is the written word of God inspired
By The Holy Spirit or not?

Yes or no?
 
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She isn't Christian, what do you expect?
 
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Is the written word of God inspired
By The Holy Spirit or not?

Yes or no?
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That's many questions.

1) Is there a God?
2) Is there a Holy Spirit?
3) Are human authors capable of capturing what God wants him to write without error?
4) Is it valid for a book to testify to its own divine inspiration?

If the answer to all four questions are yes, then yes, otherwise no.
 
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4. The Holy Spirit testifies to the validness of the Bible, but unfortunately for you, you have to believe 1 and 2 and the gospel before you can receive the Holy Spirit.

I always wonder how people can live without God's love. I don't think they can for God gives them breath, so He loves them..I guess I am wonder how and why people don't love Him back?

Is it ignorance?
 
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I wonder. Who could it have been who decided what should be included in the Canon of The Word of God

You think maybe the Holy Spirit directed what should be included
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I don't have a provable answer. In my opinion, I think the Ruach HaKodesh did have influence, although, in my opinion, lots of the men at the council maybe didn't have God's best interest in mind.
However, I also believe that some manuscripts, such as Enoch, Jasher, Jubilees, the Dead Sea Scrolls, were not needed for the generations before. It is possible that the Ruach HaKodesh has a part in revealing those documents now.
 
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I don't have a provable answer. In my opinion, I think the Ruach HaKodesh did have influence, although, in my opinion, lots of the men at the council maybe didn't have God's best interest in mind.
However, I also believe that some manuscripts, such as Enoch, Jasher, Jubilees, the Dead Sea Scrolls, were not needed for the generations before. It is possible that the Ruach HaKodesh has a part in revealing those documents now.
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I think they very MUCH had HIS best interest in mind in making sure that all those things that any one who might seek to know the TRUTH could by reading what is included in the Canon come to the Knowledge of SALVATION in, by and through CHRIST JESUS alone.

Those "men" were filled and fat and fed and they had their eyes more on babies who hadn't eaten the PURE UNADULTERATED FOOD first and foremost. Therefore, these "men" made sure that all the RIGHT PURE FOOD would be included.


All these other writings, can't be understood without the proper FOOD first and foremost.
And with the proper FOOD first and foremost every writing can be understood...

For the SPIRIT of TRUTH leads us to ALL TRUTH (and the lack of truth) in all things
 
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That's many questions.

1) Is there a God?
2) Is there a Holy Spirit?
3) Are human authors capable of capturing what God wants him to write without error?
4) Is it valid for a book to testify to its own divine inspiration?

If the answer to all four questions are yes, then yes, otherwise no.
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Yes.

So who needs the input of Thomas Paine?
Or a suggestion that Thomas Paine "knew" what he was speaking of?

Was this same survey given to him?
 
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I think they very MUCH had HIS best interest in mind in making sure that all those things that any one who might seek to know the TRUTH could by reading what is included in the Canon come to the Knowledge of SALVATION in, by and through CHRIST JESUS alone.

Those "men" were filled and fat and fed and they had their eyes more on babies who hadn't eaten the PURE UNADULTERATED FOOD first and foremost. Therefore, these "men" made sure that all the RIGHT PURE FOOD would be included.


All these other writings, can't be understood without the proper FOOD first and foremost.
And with the proper FOOD first and foremost every writing can be understood...

For the SPIRIT of TRUTH leads us to ALL TRUTH (and the lack of truth) in all things
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okay, we don't agree there.
through my study, I believe that the Roman Catholic Church had most influence on the canon.
you are welcome to disagree.
 
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Can we finish with Enoch? The final outcome is that the fallen angels will not have salvation

The end of the story for those
No salvation
Even though they went to Enoch asking him to plead for them

Another thing

The fallen angels did not do their work they listened to Satan who was supposed to be a covering angel who didn't want to cover

They were cast out of heaven and then they go and mix with the daughters of men knowing that they were supposed to be ministering spirits helping men to know salvation through GOD alone

Insult added to injury?

Not good
 
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sir, to say you believe the book is not authentic would be your right.
to insult the author, if it is authentic, could be bad for you. just saying.
Enoch was really loved by God. be careful.
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Just because The Book possibly could be about Enoch in Genesis whom God himself
Raprured to heaven, does nor mean "The Book of Enoch" is the Same Enoch... The fact remains that book and many other books have been rejected by the Bible Scholars as not authenic, and were not annointed to be included into the KJV. The Catholic Bible has
"The Book of Macabees" where the doctrine of "Purgatory" came from. This was also rejected as not authenic regarding the Pure Word of God.
 
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Just because The Book possibly could be about Enoch in Genesis whom God himself
Raprured to heaven, does nor mean "The Book of Enoch" is the Same Enoch... The fact remains that book and many other books have been rejected by the Bible Scholars as not authenic, and were not annointed to be included into the KJV. The Catholic Bible has
"The Book of Macabees" where the doctrine of "Purgatory" came from. This was also rejected as not authenic regarding the Pure Word of God.
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Brother I don't know everything. But I know this - If you put 4 "Bible Scholars" in one room, they will develop 5 opinions.
 
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