Boxing Martial arts mma?

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I don't like the sport of boxing or martial arts. I never trained for sport. I believe in true application. Make no mistake about it. If I witness a man attempting to rape/maim/ or kill another person I will act to stop it BECAUSE OF GOD. I would have a much harder time explaining why I cowered down and did nothing than I would explaining that I was trying to protect the meek.
 
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[h=1]Proverbs 20:30King James Version (KJV)[/h] [SUP]30 [/SUP]The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.
 
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Hi all,
Like I have said in previous posts I am not the most knolagable christian, but I am daily improving and studying the bible..

My question
I have been a boxer for many many years, and I feel it has done me alot of good - kept me away from drugs etc, many of my christian friends from church have told me to stop boxing, and studying mma (which I have been doing more recently this last year)

What is a biblical perspective on this?
I dont see boxing as violent as it has helped me in many ways avoid confrontation and not drink drugs etc, given me a purpose when going abroad etc, but ultimatley it is an art that can hurt people...
Hi Ambi3333
Sounds like mma/boxing has influenced you in a good way (according to the flesh) and I don't want to say anything that is not encouraging in truth but I will tell you that if you have not been changed in the spirit,then me telling you to renew your mind would simply be placing you into a works mentality.
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One time I went to Houston TX to see Joyce Myer and I went to see her with my sister.When the meeting started Joyces people came out and started to sing worship songs and everyone stood up and my sister remained sitting,so I told my sister to stand up and my sister stood up to worship with us,but later when I thought about it,i thought to myself that I shouldn't of had to tell her to stand up.She should have done that on her own.I felt that she had modified her behavior to please me and not because she wanted to please GOD.So I thought it was just a waste of her time.

What I'm saying is when you were born again you became a new creation and now you have to renew your mind. reading the word of GOD/bible and proving GODs perfect will.

you have a desire now to do GODs will because you have been changed in the spirit.

So if you have not been changed you would not have a desire to renew your mind and if you were trying to do it anyway then I would say you would be wasting your time not being in truth.
 
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One time I went to Houston TX to see Joyce Myer and I went to see her with my sister.When the meeting started Joyces people came out and started to sing worship songs and everyone stood up and my sister remained sitting

I wouldn't have stood at a Joyce Meyer conference either.
 
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Thats what i mean,
If you are not doing it for GOD then its a waste of your time.
Be not deceived,GOD is not mocked......
 
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"Sport" is one thing.
Doing intentional bodily harm to someone is different, IMO.
The object in boxing isn't to cause intentional harm to your opponent, as the sport is calculated on a point system based on how many punches are landed. Injury is a byproduct, but so it is in any contact sport.
 
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What is a biblical perspective on this?
I dont see boxing as violent as it has helped me in many ways avoid confrontation and not drink drugs etc, given me a purpose when going abroad etc, but ultimatley it is an art that can hurt people...
Christians in the Bible came in all walks, even Roman soldiers. The main difference between you and I is that I am not you. The Lord bless you in those things that keep you from such as drink or drugs, and don't let anybody judge you in what you can do in good conscience as you walk in His Spirit, which are personal between yourself and the Lord. Perhaps one day you will help somebody in a bad situation with your skill, if you haven't already. I say blessings to you, just as you are!
 

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The object in boxing isn't to cause intentional harm to your opponent, as the sport is calculated on a point system based on how many punches are landed. Injury is a byproduct, but so it is in any contact sport.
And what constitutes a landed punch? Something hit directly and strongly enough to cause some sort of damage.
And even with the point system, aren't you looking for the knockout? Wouldn't the intent be to knock someone unconscious if given the chance, thereby giving them a concussion?
 
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Which one of you can say this gentleman is not a Christian representative of the Lord in his boxing community?
 

KohenMatt

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He very well maybe.

I still maintain that intentionally trying to inflict pain on someone for the sake of sport is not Biblical.
 
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I still maintain that intentionally trying to inflict pain on someone for the sake of sport is not Biblical.
But who's to say what the limits are of pain? Maybe reading some things here are like getting smacked upside the head to some of us. And what is worse, boxing for sport, or trolling in the name of Christ? Is there not also a verbal brutality that even insults the Lord? Which is worse, dragging the name of Jesus through the mud, or sport?
 
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What is worse, some of the error being taught here by some we won't name, or sport? Who here is qualified to judge this gentleman for his sport?
 
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I still maintain that intentionally trying to inflict pain on someone for the sake of sport is not Biblical.
Is to claim something is Biblical which is false prophecy and error Biblical? Which is less Biblical, some things which are apostasy of that very Bible, or sport?
 

KohenMatt

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But who's to say what the limits are of pain? Maybe reading some things here are like getting smacked upside the head to some of us. And what is worse, boxing for sport, or trolling in the name of Christ? Is there not also a verbal brutality that even insults the Lord? Which is worse, dragging the name of Jesus through the mud, or sport?
What is worse, some of the error being taught here by some we won't name, or sport? Who here is qualified to judge this gentleman for his sport?
Is to claim something is Biblical which is false prophecy and error Biblical? Which is less Biblical, some things which are apostasy of that very Bible, or sport?
What's worse, Genocide or boxing?

Moot points for the discussion.

The topic is an individual sport.
 
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I thought the topic went beyond sport, to boxing and MMA in general. Couldn't that include boxing and MMA for general application?
 

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No one has proven 'thou shalt not box as a sport'.
This matter seems a matter of conscience and any discussion will be endless in trying to resolve it biblically.
 
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And what constitutes a landed punch? Something hit directly and strongly enough to cause some sort of damage.
And even with the point system, aren't you looking for the knockout? Wouldn't the intent be to knock someone unconscious if given the chance, thereby giving them a concussion?
I suppose, but fighters generally shake hands or hug after a fight, so their intent is generally to outscore, not to intentionally harm. As I've counseled, I think it would be wise to do something else before a physical injury occurs, but anyone who feels as you do should refrain from going to hockey games.
 
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What's worse, Genocide or boxing?

Moot points for the discussion.

The topic is an individual sport.
Genocide I do believe, not exactly a moot point, when there are those here telling this gentleman he shouldn't be boxing, sanctimonious, legalistic people who think nothing of butchering God's word on CC, trying to lay legal bondage on people the Bible condemns. I don't find the sport issue squat, compared to teaching error.
 
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refrain from going to hockey games.
Refrain from anything that could cause a hang nail, for that matter,

Matthew 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
 
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By the way, before you say, "Oh, hang nail, what rubbish!" A small wound can be etiology of an infection that could lead to septicemia and death. So, it must not be Biblical, as you claim, to engage in any hang nail activity. Enjoying the great outdoors could result in a mosquito bite that brings deadly disease. So, it must not be Biblical to do any great outdoors. What about driving cars, talk about mortal danger, so driving cars must not be Biblical, at least anything not essential to preserving life, right? Skiing, broken legs or worse, like death. Hockey, already mention, just wow when it comes to injuries, despite padding. Football. Ever seen anybody clobbered by a high speed baseball on the head? No sense going on for pages, all the stuff not, therefore, Biblical, as boxing is not Biblical.