Breaking the speed limit vs "bigger" sins: Are all sins equal?

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Called4Christ

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....I had no idea about the link back. Oops. Hahah. Never mind, Galahad is right!
 
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Fubario

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There is sin that leads to death and sin that does not lead to death, 1 John 5:16.
I would say there are severe sins and then there are non-severe sins
 
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The speed limit taken seriously as the struggle with alcoholism or lying?

No. How can you?

The only way you can not break the speed limit is by driving at the speed limit or slightly below it. Slightly? Yes, because driving at a speed much lower than the actual speed limit is dangerous to others. You can be ticketed for it. At least where I live.

The speed limit is 45. You look at your speedometer. 46! If your speedometer can read 45.1 mph, then what? You're sinning. And you want that to be taken seriously as a struggle with alcoholism and lying?

When you actually take the time to think about your question and answer it beyond the "all sin is sin" statement, you will abandon this silly notion of yours.

You can begin by defining sin. Then study from where does sin come. ETC.

Until then, I would suggest that you either buy a governor for your car and a speedometer that tracks fractions of speed.

Well, you might want to take the bus. No. That won't work either. You see, if the bus driver goes over the speed limit and you stay on the bus, you are condoning his or her behavior. That's a sin. And so you would have to tell the driver to slow down. Same applies to taxi. How about the train? No way. You'd be car hopping to get to the engineer.

Just walk.
So what are you really saying.
Are you saying that because you did not do it on purpose that GOD will accept imperfection?
Either it's all you or all CHRIST.
 
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Galahad

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So what are you really saying.
Are you saying that because you did not do it on purpose that GOD will accept imperfection?
Either it's all you or all CHRIST.
Your question has been answered by God Himself. And His answer is nothing less than Jesus Christ and His righteousness.
 
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Galahad

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For the believer, there are sins that do not lead unto death and sins that do lead unto death (See 1 John 5:16-18). Paul lists those sins several times that lead unto death in Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:3-5, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Colossians 3:5-7, Romans 1:28-32. John also lists certain sins that will lead a person unto the "Second Death" or the Lake of Fire. For John says that any man who hates his brother is a murderer, and we know no murderer has eternal life abiding in them (1 John 3:15).

Sins that do not lead unto death are hidden or secret faults Psalm 19:12 or confessed sin (See 1 John 1:2, 1 John 1:9, Luke 18:9-14). But no, a believer is not going to Hell if they happen to break the speed limit. However, if they murder someone, then they are committing that type of sin that leads unto death and it needs to be repented of (Because it is a serious sin that will lead unto death). In fact, we know not all sin is the same because there are some sins that cannot be forgiven (Like speaking bad against the Holy Spirit, committing suicide, and rejecting Jesus while having the Spirit (i.e. apostasy).
 
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don't trust this forum. from the looks of it, most churches people are in don't care about sin.
Spoken so eloquently and without a hint of judgment or self righteousness.
 
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Your question has been answered by God Himself. And His answer is nothing less than Jesus Christ and His righteousness.
scripture has been posted but i don't see it harmonize with what was said in post# 8.

The speed limit taken seriously as the struggle with alcoholism or lying?

No. How can you?

The only way you can not break the speed limit is by driving at the speed limit or slightly below it. Slightly? Yes, because driving at a speed much lower than the actual speed limit is dangerous to others. You can be ticketed for it. At least where I live.

The speed limit is 45. You look at your speedometer. 46! If your speedometer can read 45.1 mph, then what? You're sinning. And you want that to be taken seriously as a struggle with alcoholism and lying?

When you actually take the time to think about your question and answer it beyond the "all sin is sin" statement, you will abandon this silly notion of yours.

You can begin by defining sin. Then study from where does sin come. ETC.

Until then, I would suggest that you either buy a governor for your car and a speedometer that tracks fractions of speed.

Well, you might want to take the bus. No. That won't work either. You see, if the bus driver goes over the speed limit and you stay on the bus, you are condoning his or her behavior. That's a sin. And so you would have to tell the driver to slow down. Same applies to taxi. How about the train? No way. You'd be car hopping to get to the engineer.

Just walk.
So what are you really saying.
Are you saying that because you did not do it on purpose that GOD will accept imperfection?
Either it's all you or all CHRIST.
The law came via Moses and if you break one law then you have offended the whole thing.

Scripture should harmonize with scripture.
How can what you said be true then why did JESUS come to fulfill GODs perfect standard of righteousness?

The governments are there to keep some semblance of peace in society for mankind but GOD will only except perfection so then i don't see how what you said is the same thing James is talking about.

I stand by post#24
 

posthuman

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when i drive along, sometimes i wonder if it's a worse sin to go 5 or 8 miles over the posted speed limit, or to knowingly cause dangerous traffic conditions and offend & enrage my neighbors-on-the-expressway by following strictly the sign on a road where the average speed is 10-15 mph more than what's posted.

ex. -- a part of freeway i drive on regularly is posted 50mph. average speed during morning/evening rush hour is at least 70mph.
what's the right thing to do?
 
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Jesus said...You break one of the LEAST of the commandments you are guilty of the WHOLE LAW!
 

jsr1221

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We know that all sins are equal; all sin separates us from God. Do you feel that breaking the speed limit is a sin in that it does not obey local authorities? (Rend unto Caesar what is Caesar's)

Do we take it seriously enough?

Should we take it as seriously as the struggle with alcoholism or lying?


What are your thoughts on some sins being worse than others? My personal opinion is that all sins are equal but some sin has a larger social, personal, physical, and economical cost to it. Therefore, we're more likely to view the sins that affect ourselves and others as "worse," but in the end--they all separate us from God.
You're knowingly doing something illegal that can endanger the life of yourself or others. Coming from someone that bikes, I hate aggressive drivers. I guess I shouldn't say hate.. Aggressive drivers get under my skin. I think speeding is equally important because when you're driving, it's not like you're going slow. You're either speeding or losing focus on the road, or both. People usually lie when get caught, and try to deflect the blame when they get handed a ticket. As far as what can the church do? Unless you want to have a sermon on speeding, I don't really know what we can do.
 
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We know that all sins are equal; all sin separates us from God. Do you feel that breaking the speed limit is a sin in that it does not obey local authorities? (Rend unto Caesar what is Caesar's)
Don't mind me just jumping In for updates will post later
Do we take it seriously enough?

Should we take it as seriously as the struggle with alcoholism or lying?


What are your thoughts on some sins being worse than others? My personal opinion is that all sins are equal but some sin has a larger social, personal, physical, and economical cost to it. Therefore, we're more likely to view the sins that affect ourselves and others as "worse," but in the end--they all separate us from God.
Just jumping in for updates
 

crossnote

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when i drive along, sometimes i wonder if it's a worse sin to go 5 or 8 miles over the posted speed limit, or to knowingly cause dangerous traffic conditions and offend & enrage my neighbors-on-the-expressway by following strictly the sign on a road where the average speed is 10-15 mph more than what's posted.

ex. -- a part of freeway i drive on regularly is posted 50mph. average speed during morning/evening rush hour is at least 70mph.
what's the right thing to do?
Many moons ago I went to driving school here in So. Ca. taught by an officer. He said it is possible (but not likely) that you can be cited for going the speed limit while the flow of traffic is 10mi/hr faster than you. So you damn if you do and damn if you don't.
 
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Many moons ago I went to driving school here in So. Ca. taught by an officer. He said it is possible (but not likely) that you can be cited for going the speed limit while the flow of traffic is 10mi/hr faster than you. So you damn if you do and damn if you don't.

Yeah or get flipped off, verbally abused or evil looks from hell if you actually drive the speed limit by all of those rush hour commuters!