CAN A CHRISTIAN BE PRO-GAY MARRIAGE?

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Can a mature Christian support gay marriage?

  • Yes, a mature Christian can support gay marriage

    Votes: 15 10.5%
  • No, a mature Christian cannot support gay marriage

    Votes: 128 89.5%

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Mitspa

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scripture was canonized by humans who had a dogma, books which disagreed were proclaimed anathema.

you are convinced that your dogma is true. Since God is silent you can not speak with authority beyond the books accepted.

convienent isn't it?
So this is just a attack on the scriptures, to promote sexual perversion.... I guess if your going to promote evil..you have to attack the bible to do it.
 

Dino246

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scripture was canonized by humans who had a dogma, books which disagreed were proclaimed anathema.

you are convinced that your dogma is true. Since God is silent you can not speak with authority beyond the books accepted.

convienent isn't it?
The alternative is to make up whatever you like and call it God's truth. Convenient, isn't it? I'll take Scripture, thanks.
 
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You wrote earlier that you don't believe in sola Scriptura. So then, how do you determine what is truth?

I reconcile such things because I don't see a god (small-g) of hatred. I see a God Who is slow to anger and abounding in love, is the very source and definition of all that is good and upright, and is holy and cannot tolerate sin. Because He is the Creator, it is His sovereign right to dictate what is sinful and how He will deal with it. He does not desire that anyone perish, but that all to come to repentance. He loves His created kids so much that He gave His only Son in our place, because on our own we could not attain the holiness He requires. And I see all this in Scripture. As for 2,000 years, well, He is still speaking by His Spirit, completely consistently with His written Word.
Prase be to God, if God desires for none to perish , then who perishes?
you understand what I am saying, even though you do not realize it.

i am all the way in with God, and so are you. I pray for the salvation of humanity, and ask God to condemn me in their place, because as Jesus said "they know not what they do"

Christ be with you always.
 
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Mitspa

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Prase be to God, if God desires for none to perish , then who perishes?
you understand what I am saying, even though you do not realize it.

i am all the way in with God, and so are you. I pray for the salvation of humanity, and ask God to condemn me in their place, because as Jesus said "the know not what they do"

Christ be with you always.
You have to read a little further ...that God don't want any to perish but come to Christ...

And how do you know God? You seem to make-up "god" as you go along?
 
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You have to read a little further ...that God don't want any to perish but come to Christ...

And how do you know God? You seem to make-up "god" as you go along?
i do not make up God, you do not know me, and I do not you. We both love Jesus Christ. And God is : I am that I am.

I see things differently than you do, I see love as the center of reality, I condemn no one lest I be condemned, God is the judge.

may I be anathema, to save the lost.
 

TMS

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Is Gay marriage a sin? Can a Christian support sin?
If i put everything aside (including feelings) and look for the truth. i can only say that gay marriage is sin.
 

Dino246

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i do not make up God, you do not know me, and I do not you. We both love Jesus Christ. And God is : I am that I am.

I see things differently than you do, I see love as the center of reality, I condemn no one lest I be condemned, God is the judge.

may I be anathema, to save the lost.
Taking your words here at face value, I will simply ask this... how would you propose to reach professing LGBTQ folks with the love of God, without compromising Who God is?
 
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Is Gay marriage a sin? Can a Christian support sin?
If i put everything aside (including feelings) and look for the truth. i can only say that gay marriage is sin.
you consider it (homosexuality) to be a sin and so you can not see support of gay marriage as anything but sin, and I understand your position even while I disagree with it.
 
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Mitspa

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i do not make up God, you do not know me, and I do not you. We both love Jesus Christ. And God is : I am that I am.

I see things differently than you do, I see love as the center of reality, I condemn no one lest I be condemned, God is the judge.

may I be anathema, to save the lost.
You seem clearly to deny the scriptures and the truth of Gods Word.... Yet you seem to pick and choose what scriptures are from God? Condemn no one unless you are condemned is Gods Word.... what do you just pick what you want to obey?
 
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Mitspa

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you consider it (homosexuality) to be a sin and so you can not see support of gay marriage as anything but sin, and I understand your position even while I dosage with it.
That's Gods position..its not debatable
 
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Mitspa

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Im going to believe the parts of the bible I like..and ignore the rest...what is that but heresy and a rejection of Gods Truth?
 
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You seem clearly to deny the scriptures and the truth of Gods Word.... Yet you seem to pick and choose what scriptures are from God? Condemn no one unless you are condemned is Gods Word.... what do you just pick what you want to obey?
I do not see my picking and choosing any different from your picking and choosing.
 
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MsKy

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#73
No, a mature believer can not support gay marriage and proclaim to follow the teachings of Christ.

Having sad that….

Even though scripture is clear we still live in a fallen world and all know people who are kind, smart people who are living a homosexual lifestyle.

What is most terrifying is that preaching Christian truth is being labeled as hate speech in our country. I believe that we will see pastors and ministers arrested in our lifetime for hate crimes.
 
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Mitspa

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I do not see my picking and choosing any different from your picking and choosing.
You have already challenged the authority of the scriptures..and then picked one scripture out to try and defend your position against the other scriptures... I accept every Word from God and believe its all true and valid and used according to sound doctrine...
 

TMS

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#75
You can Accept Gods word or throw it away. This is what God said to you and me.
Roms chap 1
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 
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You have already challenged the authority of the scriptures..and then picked one scripture out to try and defend your position against the other scriptures... I accept every Word from God and believe its all true and valid and used according to sound doctrine...
yes, I understand your position. I disagree, and believe that two people can love one another of the same sex in unity with God.

And I know that God will accomplish his will, irregardless of my understanding or your understanding. So I do not worry about it.

if God desires for none to perish , who is perishing? That you attempt to answer such a question with " God will condemn .." Is disturbing to me.

think about it please.
 

TMS

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#77
Is that last verse in Romans (1:32) saying that not only those that practice these things but those that support them (have pleasure in) will be judged.
Jesus came to seek and save the lost and that includes me. We should not hate or condemn homosexuals but we shouldn't support it either.
 
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Mitspa

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yes, I understand your position. I disagree, and believe that two people can love one another of the same sex in unity with God.

And I know that God will accomplish his will, irregardless of my understanding or your understanding. So I do not worry about it.

if God desires for none to perish , who is perishing? That you attempt to answer such a question with " God will condemn .." Is disturbing to me.

think about it please.
That's not "love" that sexual perversion... Lots of folks call sexual lust ..love The bible describes what love is and is not...again, if you don't believe the bible? You will believe any lie the devil tells you..and end up in hell.
 
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Mitspa

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Look ..no one wants to be harsh with you. But you come on a Christian forum and try to promote evil...You have to be challenged and rebuked for your errors and the truth must be established with all boldness.
 

TMS

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Gods desires and my desires may be different, God may desire to save me but if i choose to love the flesh more then i love God He can't force me to have life over death.