Can A Preacher Be Saved, And Yet Preach Heresy?

[DJ2]

lol

it was not me, it was someone else who brought up the subject.

The son was still his fathers son. He had his fathers blood.

He walked away and was on his own, and could not be BLESSED by the father, but he was still his fathers son. It was his brokenness which caused him to remember his father, and why he returned (I had the same experience)

Now. Please stop. You claim you believe your saved by God. Practice what you preach, or stop saying you believe God saved you, and you are trying to save yourself.

lol

it was not me, it was someone else who brought up the subject.

You brought up the prodigal son on post #130. Stop denying it and own it. Just be honest.

The prodigal having his "father's blood line" did not put food in his belly, it was his returning to his father that brought out the fattened calf.

You are simply defending your theology and your own scriptures are against you.

 

[DJ2]

Other than that dcon is pretty cool guy, huh?

Without a doubt.

 

[Adstar]

Wrong. By making continuance to believe a requirement, you've turned simple faith into a work.

No. The Holy Bible makes it clear that Faith is not a Work .. It can never be a Work and we cannot turn it into a work.. calvinisim is the doctrine that attempts to turn Faith into a work by the human thinking of Calvin..

(Romans 3:27-28) "Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. {28} Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

 

[Adstar]

Anyone in a god fearing church has escaped. They are blessed just by being around Gods people. Thats why Jesus had many people who followed him? Just because people have KNOWledge of the truth, does not mean they ever had FAITH in the truth.

Yet time after time, when the stuff hit the fan, many left because they were never really part of the walk.

A dog is a dog. A dog who has been born again is no longer a dog. He is a new creature. And as a new creature would not act like a dog.

A dog may learn new tricks, but a dog is always a dog. And like a dog, they will return to their vomit. (Ways of the world)


So again, Why do you deny eternal security? WHy do you say you trust god, yet when push comes to shove, You say your trust is not really in god. But yourself?

I have given you ample scriptural reason why i reject the dogma of eternal security.. But you just don't seem to be able to interpret scripture as i do.. So here is the block or the impasse.. We are not going to agree on this dogma so repeating the same question again will not lead to any conclusion..

Tell me how God has failed people so they lose faith? Can you explain that?

It is men who fail God when they lose Faith in Him... Not the other way around..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You brought up the prodigal son on post #130. Stop denying it and own it. Just be honest.

If youy look up post 129, you brought up people who fell away and were restored. THOSE ARE PRODIGAL CHIDREN.

The prodigal having his "father's blood line" did not put food in his belly, it was his returning to his father that brought out the fattened calf.

Your right, it did not. But he still had his fathers blood. If he had died, He would have been brought back to his father. For he was still his fathers son.

[quoter]You are simply defending your theology and your own scriptures are against you.[/QUOTE]
Thats what your doing. Because it is all you have, You can not let any ounce of understanding that you have no part in your salvation. That is against your pride. Well keep working. I pray God will grant you forgiveness based on how hard you work (Not that it will help)

Next.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I have given you ample scriptural reason why i reject the dogma of eternal security.. But you just don't seem to be able to interpret scripture as i do.. So here is the block or the impasse.. We are not going to agree on this dogma so repeating the same question again will not lead to any conclusion..

Then we are at an impass, as I reject any dogma that says man has to earn salvation, (call it what you will. Thats what you’re doing)

It is men who fail God when they lose Faith in Him... Not the other way around..

Men do not lose faith unless the person they are trusting fails them, How you think a man can lose faith in a god who NEVER fails them, is just beyond comprehension.

 

[notuptome]

Then we are at an impass, as I reject any dogma that says man has to earn salvation, (call it what you will. Thats what you’re doing)



Men do not lose faith unless the person they are trusting fails them, How you think a man can lose faith in a god who NEVER fails them, is just beyond comprehension.

Those who lie to God are not saved in the first place.

Butterflies never change back into caterpillars. They do not want to even consider the possibility. You will never find a believer who desires to go back into condemnation.

Moses led Israel out of Egypt but most of them did not want to leave. Many today profess but do not want to believe. They speak of Christ but do not receive Him into their hearts loving the things of this world more than the eternal glory of Christ.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Those who lie to God are not saved in the first place.

Butterflies never change back into caterpillars. They do not want to even consider the possibility. You will never find a believer who desires to go back into condemnation.

Moses led Israel out of Egypt but most of them did not want to leave. Many today profess but do not want to believe. They speak of Christ but do not receive Him into their hearts loving the things of this world more than the eternal glory of Christ.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Amen! As scripture says, a dog returns to his vomit. The dog who returns never wanted to leave to begin with, Thats why he will always revert to what his heart truly desires.

 

[DJ2]

If youy look up post 129, you brought up people who fell away and were restored. THOSE ARE PRODIGAL CHIDREN.




Your right, it did not. But he still had his fathers blood. If he had died, He would have been brought back to his father. For he was still his fathers son.

[quoter]You are simply defending your theology and your own scriptures are against you.

Thats what your doing. Because it is all you have, You can not let any ounce of understanding that you have no part in your salvation. That is against your pride. Well keep working. I pray God will grant you forgiveness based on how hard you work (Not that it will help)

Next.

Your responses are becoming more absurd. Your writing is becoming harder to understand. Your intellectual honesty is nonexistent. This is the natural end to OSAS theology.