CAN CHRISTIANS REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF WE ALL VOTE?

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Aug 30, 2014
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NO, I have read the Doctrinal Statements of Faith from the vast majority of Mainline Christian Denominations, and our main CORE of Beliefs is the same, it is the little things that separate the Denominations that we differ and argue about.

The CORE of Mainline Christianity's Doctrinal Beliefs

The Inerrancy of the Inspired WORD of GOD in their original manuscripts.

The Doctrine of the Holy Trinity.

The Deity and Humanity of JESUS CHRIST.

The fallen state of man, is in need of Salvation.

The price for sin was paid for on the Cross by Jesus Christ.

The physical resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ.

Christ will Come Again!

ETC., as I am sure there are other things we can all agree on.



Just in case you are thinking that is not so, because I have seen lots of people here on this site who do not believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ and deny the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity. Those denominations are not considered to be part of Mainline Christianity by Mainline Denominations, but are a psuedo-Christian Cult, such as the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons. Mainline Christianity believes that the following verse is talking about the Deity of Jesus Christ.

1 John 2:23 (HCSB)
23 No one who denies the Son can have the Father; he who confesses the Son has the Father as well.
Not all mainline denominations believe that the original manuscripts were innerant. Some believe that men were inspired to write it, but did not inscribe it without wrroe, as they are humans and make mistakes.

Many non-denominational Christians who claim that they follow no man-made doctrines, and their only doctrine is the bible, reject the trinity as unscriptural, with Biblical reference to support it.

The same often reject the deity of Jesus, and emphasize only the humanity, calling him a "man made strong."

Preterists do not believe that Christ will come again.

Again, what you call true christianity doesn't matter at all to those who disagree with you. Of the 78.4% of Americans who identify as Christian, mainline churches make up 18%. The majority of Christians might feel compeled to say they are tru christians, and the mainline churches are not. And the same would apply to them in that their saying so doesn't change anybody else's mind. Every single Christian thinks their doctine is the only true doctrine, whether you call them pseudo-christian or not.

All that aside, I don't think anybody is going to be voting on anything concerning the return of Christ or the truth of the trinity. It is the little things that christians disagree on that will affecct who they vote for and what they vote in favor of.
 

VCO

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Not all mainline denominations believe that the original manuscripts were innerant. Some believe that men were inspired to write it, but did not inscribe it without wrroe, as they are humans and make mistakes.
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Dallas Theological Seminary.
We believe that "all Scripture is given by inspiration of God,” by which we understand the whole Bible is inspired in the sense that holy men of God “were moved by the Holy Spirit” to write the very words of Scripture. We believe that this divine inspiration extends equally and fully to all parts of the writings—historical, poetical, doctrinal, and prophetical—as appeared in the original manuscripts. We believe that the whole Bible in the originals is therefore without error. We believe that all the Scriptures center about the Lord Jesus Christ in His person and work in His first and second coming, and hence that no portion, even of the Old Testament, is properly read, or understood, until it leads to Him. We also believe that all the Scriptures were designed for our practical instruction (Mark 12:26, 36; 13:11; Luke 24:27, 44; John 5:39; Acts 1:16; 17:2–3; 18:28; 26:22–23; 28:23; Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 2:13; 10:11; 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 1:21).


Christian and Missionary Alliance
The Old and New Testaments, inerrant as originally given, were verbally inspired by God and are a complete revelation of His will for the salvation of men. They constitute the divine and only rule of Christian faith and practice.


Evangelical Free Church of America
[h=3]The Bible [/h]2. We believe that God has spoken in the Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, through the words of human authors. As the verbally inspired Word of God, the Bible is without error in the original writings, the complete revelation of His will for salvation, and the ultimate authority by which every realm of human knowledge and endeavor should be judged. Therefore, it is to be believed in all that it teaches, obeyed in all that it requires, and trusted in all that it promises.


Southern Baptist
The Scriptures
We believe that the entire Bible is the inspired Word of God and that men of God “were moved by the Holy Spirit” to write the very words of Scripture. The Bible is therefore without error (inerrant) in its original manuscripts. God has supernaturally preserved the Bible, and it is the sole and final authority for faith and life, providing encouragement, guidance, comfort and instruction for training in righteousness (2 Tim. 3:16-17; 2 Pet. 1:20-21).
American Baptist

We believe in the infallible, verbal inspiration of the whole Bible and that the Bible is the all-sufficient rule of faith and practice (Psalm 119:160; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17).


Missionary Baptist
We believe that the Holy Bible was written by men divinely inspired, and is a perfect treasure of heavenly
instruction; that it has God for its author, salvation for its end, and truth without any mixture of error for its matter;
that it reveals the principles by which God will judge us; and therefore is, and shall remain to the end of the world, the
true center of Christian union, and the supreme standard by which all human conduct, creeds, and opinions should be
tried.


Non-Denominational Community Church
We teach that the Bible is God's written revelation to man, and thus the sixty six books of the Bible given to us by the Holy Spirit constitute the plenary (inspired equally in all parts) Word of God (1Corinthians 2:7 14; 2 Peter 1:20 21).
We teach that the Word of God is an objective, propositional revelation (1 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Corinthians 2:13), verbally inspired in every word (2 Timothy 3:16), absolutely inerrant in the original documents, infallible, and God breathed. We teach the literal, grammatical historical interpretation of Scripture which affirms the belief that the opening chapters of Genesis present creation in six literal days (Genesis 1:31; Exodus 31:17).


Non-Denominational Bible Church

THE BIBLE is God’s message to man, recorded without error in the original manuscripts.


Grace Brethren Church
THE BIBLE. The Word of God, the sixty six Books of the Old and New Testaments, verbally inspired in all parts, and therefore wholly without error as originally given of God (2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Peter 1:21).
Nazarene Church

We believe in the plenary inspiration of the Holy Scriptures, by which we understand the 66 books of the Old and New Testaments, given by divine inspiration, inerrantly revealing the will of God concerning us in all things necessary to our salvation, so that whatever is not contained therein is not to be enjoined as an article of faith.
Free Methodist Church
The Bible is God’s written Word, uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit. It bears unerring witness to Jesus Christ, the living Word. As attested by the early church and subsequent councils, it is the trustworthy record of God’s revelation, completely truthful in all it affirms. It has been faithfully preserved and proves itself true in human experience.
The Scriptures have come to us through human authors who wrote, as God moved them, in the languages and literary forms of their times. God continues, by the illumination of the Holy Spirit, to speak through this Word to each generation and culture.


Congregational Church
The Bible: We believe that the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, is the inspired and eternal Word of God. These Scriptures are the Will of God revealed to mankind and are the only infallible guide to Christian faith and practice.


Evangelical Lutheran Church Synod

We confess that the canonical books of the Old and New Testaments, in their original form as written by the prophets, apostles, and evangelists, were given by inspiration of God. The Holy Scriptures are without error in everything they teach, including matters of geography, science, and history, and they are the only infallible rule and norm of Christian doctrine and practice. The Scriptures not only contain the Word of God (as if to say, some of their teachings are the authoritative Word of God and others are not), but they are the very Word of God in their entirety. We reject the so-called “historical-critical” or “higher- critical” method of Biblical interpretation as an unwarranted and arbitrary manner of dealing with Holy Scripture. The Scriptures are true and reliable in all that they report, including their accounts of Old Testament and New Testament miracles. We therefore regard the denial of these miracles as blasphemous and as setting up man’s reason as a judge over God’s Word. Since the term “inspired” is often used in a loose sense, we frequently use the expressions “verbally inspired” and “inerrant” in describing the authority and reliability of these sacred documents which God caused His servants to write. See John 10:35,1 Cor. 2:13, 2 Tim. 3:16, 2 Pet 1:20-21, 2 Pet. 3:15-17, 1 Thes. 1:5, 2:13.
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod

The Bible is God's inerrant and infallible Word, in which He reveals His Law and His Gospel of salvation in Jesus Christ. It is the sole rule and norm for Christian doctrine.


United Brethren Church
The Church of the United Brethren in Christ reaffirms unequivocally the Word of God, the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament to be sole authority for the believer and the church and the only infallible rule of faith and practice; that sincere and full acceptance of the Bible as final authority is an indispensable condition of true Christian unity and further the Church of the United Brethren in Christ calls upon all churches to restore the Word of God to rightful preeminence in teaching, preaching and practice.
As the result of a contemporary resurgence of the issues of authority and infallibility we believe it is important to again declare our belief in the Holy Bible, the Word of God written, as the infallible Word of God to man, wholly trustworthy in the fullness of its message of God’s redemptive grace and His acts in history.


Assembly of God Church
The Scriptures, both the Old and New Testaments, are verbally inspired of God and are the revelation of God to man, the infallible, authoritative rule of faith and conduct.
2 Timothy 3:15-17
1 Thessalonians 2:13
2 Peter 1:21


United Pentecostal Church

The Bible is the infallible Word of God and the authority for salvation and Christian living. (See II Timothy 3:15-17.)
Amish Church

We believe that those writings must be interpreted from the Hebraic perspective from which they were written.
One may read and pull truth from any sources, but since the Bible seems to us to be by far the most inspired and inerrant book we've ever seen, we judge all other books by the Bible.
In other words, the Bible is the only book we know of that isn't partly false.


Mennonite Church
We believe that God was at work through the centuries in the process by which the books of the Old and New Testaments were inspired and written. Through the Holy Spirit, God moved human witnesses to write what is needed for salvation, for guidance in faith and life, and for devotion to God.
We accept the Bible as the Word of God written. God has spoken in many and various ways through the prophets and apostles. God has spoken above all in the living Word who became flesh and revealed the truth of God faithfully and without deception. We also acknowledge the Scripture as the fully reliable and trustworthy Word of God written in human language. We believe that God continues to speak through the living and written Word. Because Jesus Christ is the Word become flesh, Scripture as a whole has its center and fulfillment in him.
Catholic Church
[h=5]II. Inspiration and Truth of Sacred Scripture[/h]105 God is the author of Sacred Scripture. “The divinely revealed realities, which are contained and presented in the text of Sacred Scripture, have been written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.”69“For Holy Mother Church, relying on the faith of the apostolic age, accepts as sacred and canonical the books of the Old and the New Testaments, whole and entire, with all their parts, on the grounds that, written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author and have been handed on as such to the Church herself.”70106 God inspired the human authors of the sacred books. “To compose the sacred books, God chose certain men who, all the while he employed them in this task, made full use of their own faculties and powers so that, though he acted in them and by them, it was as true authors that they consigned to writing whatever he wanted written, and no more.”71107 The inspired books teach the truth. “Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures.”72 (702)


I have hereby put your claims "that not all mainline denominations believe that the Bible in its original manuscripts was inerrant" to the test. AND YOUR CLAIMS PROVED TO BE PURE FALSEHOOD.
 
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I applaud your extensive work. I admit I believe I misunderstood the meaning of "mainline" churches. I was using it as a general term to mean mainstream, or average Christianity. Although it is, as I said, often the non-denominational churches who vary on the beliefs in any of these things. I see you have a box for them too, but how can you possibly speak for an entire group of non-denominational churches since they don't follow a creed or doctrine other than the Bible itself? Regardless, I personally know many christians who do not believe the Bible to be innerant or infallable. They are not JW, or LDS, or some other group that you label "pseudo-christian." They are just plain old Christian, no denomination, no other title. But then, I suppose, that wouldn't make them "mainline" would it?
 

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I applaud your extensive work. I admit I believe I misunderstood the meaning of "mainline" churches. I was using it as a general term to mean mainstream, or average Christianity. Although it is, as I said, often the non-denominational churches who vary on the beliefs in any of these things. I see you have a box for them too, but how can you possibly speak for an entire group of non-denominational churches since they don't follow a creed or doctrine other than the Bible itself? Regardless, I personally know many christians who do not believe the Bible to be innerant or infallable. They are not JW, or LDS, or some other group that you label "pseudo-christian." They are just plain old Christian, no denomination, no other title. But then, I suppose, that wouldn't make them "mainline" would it?
I have been going to non-denominational Churches most of my adult life, and I moved a LOT. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM AGREES THAT THE BIBLE IN IT'S ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPTS WAS INERRANT.

Of COURSE you know so-called Christians that do not believe the Bible was all inspired by GOD, and therefore has errors in it. WE WERE WARNED THAT IN THE LAST DAYS THEY WOULD BE HERE:

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
 
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