I think it is sad and tragic to see a Christian assigning - even in a single sentence - who Jews do or do not know or what Jews do or do not believe, particularly in answer to a babe in Christ.
i've addressed that.
so did Jesus.
you deny what He said.
What was Jesus suffering from, from the foundation of the world, if not the burden of sin of mankind?
all mankind?
muslims too?
what's the requirement for the forgiveness of sins and eternal life? - for israel?:
Acts 2
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Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know— 23this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men. 24God raised him up, loosing the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held by it.
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Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”
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Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
40And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.”
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So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
The Fellowship of the Believers
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And they devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. 43And awed came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles. 44And all who believed were together and had all things in common. 45And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. 46And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, 47praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day
those who were being saved.
but you deny this also.
I would suggest that Old Testament Jews knew the Son and sang praises to Him and continue to sing praised to Him..... they just didn't know they knew the Son.
heresy
Acts 4
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This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.b 12And there is salvation in no one else,
for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
Some Jews may remain sovereignly blinded by God to this day:
2 Corinthians 3
12Since we have such a hope, we are very bold, 13not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not gaze at the outcome of what was being brought to an end. 14
But their minds were hardened. For to this day, when they read the old covenant,
that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away. 15Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their hearts. 16
But when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord,f are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.
how can a Christian proclaim that the spirit of slumber has been lifted from the eyes and ears of those Jews whom God chose to cast a veil over?
it's called judgment.
when one turns to the Lord Jesus, the veil is removed.
they may be grafted back in (not cut off fit for the fire) if they continue not in unbelief.
but you deny that too.
assigning beliefs and attributes to Jews as a monolithic group - whether they a reprobate Hollywood movie producer, or one who worships our God YHWH through our Old Testament scriptures and whose life revolves around their temple and faith-based community.
they children of the flesh will not inherit.
no Jesus Christ, no salvation.
no other Name.
they don't worship the Father, nor do they know Him.
Jesus said that, but you deny what He said.
Luke 16:31
"But Abraham said, 'If they won't listen to Moses and the prophets, they won't listen even if someone rises from the dead.'"
John 5
39You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, 40yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. 41I do not receive glory from people. 42But I know that you do not have the love of God within you. 43I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him. 44How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God? 45Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope. 46For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. 47
But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?”
As far as I know there are no hyper preterists in this forum. As far as I know we are all expecting the resurrection of the dead and the return of Christ to earth for final judgment.
Even return to the Holy Land. [/QUOTE]
there's no return to Palestine predicted in Scripture.
at all. earthly Jerusalem is bearinf chilren for slavery, who will not inherit.
but you deny what Paul wrote also.
Galatains 4
Sons and Heirs
1I mean that the heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from a slave,a though he is the owner of everything, 2but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by his father. 3In the same way we also, when we were children, were enslaved to the elementary principlesb of the world. 4But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, 5to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 6And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God.
Example of Hagar and Sarah
21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24
Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;e she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,
“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”
28Now you,f brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.
Now Holy Spirit led Christians are commanded to love our neighbors and love our enemies and turn the other cheek and such through the Gospel.
Not exactly the same for Jews walking in the Spirit of God.
unbelieving jews are not walking in the spirit.
they are following the prince of the power of the air, like all unsaved mankind.
and why would God hold them to a different standard even if dual covenant heresy were real?
but you deny all of scripture anyway.
1Cr 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
so unsaved non-christian jews don't have the Spirit, since they curse Jesus.
Now I already stated that the sake of God's holy name is enough of a reason for me to recognize the stunning reality of the return of Jews to their land, even as that tiny little strip of land has become the geopolitical focus of the whole world.
that land was never theirs. they're khazars.
any jews whether authentically israelite or gentile converts are perishing in their sins without Jesus Christ.
but you deny that too.
