Can God create the eternal?

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Zmouth

Zmouth

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garee said:
The word nature denotes a beginning. God has no nature. He is not a man as us..
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True the Son is a body of light, or being in the form of a Spirit if you will, with the ability to speak I hear tell the same has been said of the Holy Ghost.

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:15-17


And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: Gen 6:3


garee said:
Supernatural is the beginning of eternal things not seen. This creation which was corrupted because of the fall as that seen is the temporal.. As new creatures we are given the faith of Christ which comes from hearing God not seen in order to see ahead to the new heavens and earth . The new generation, or genesis, the generation of Christ. The generation of Adam is limited to what the eye sees.
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2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.[/quote]
 
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mcubed

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Listen not hard to figure out. The question is what do you do with Gen 1:1... In the beginning G-d... It is either true or not. If true everything else follows. If not then you must even question Salvation.... Only you decide if G-d is right or not and that is between you and Him.
 
posthuman

posthuman

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garee said:
The word nature denotes a beginning. God has no nature.
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help please; i'm not comprehending how "nature" implies a beginning

nature:
the basic or inherent features of something, especially when seen as characteristic of it.

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For His invisible attributes, namely, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
(Romans 1:20)​

doesn't this scripture denote that God has a nature? specifically, an eternal, omnipotent, divine nature?

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Bladerunner

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Zmouth said:
Since the eternal is the nature of living matter which has always existed, exists and will always exist, then can God create living matter which is eternal considering that any living thing which is created has not always existed. And if it hasn't always existed then can it be considered eternal.
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I think your smoking too much! In reality get off the double talk, you don't need it......


To answer your question. GOD created YOU and YOU are eternal.
 
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JairCrawford

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Eternity is a concept to us only understood in regards to a length of time. It is a length of time that lasts forever, but it is still within the concept of time to us.

Time, for us, is understood to be a manifestation or dimension of the space-time continuum.

God created time. God created eternity itself. So therefore, yes, God can create the eternal. Although our minds will never be able to comprehend it fully.
 
Bladerunner

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JairCrawford said:
Eternity is a concept to us only understood in regards to a length of time. It is a length of time that lasts forever, but it is still within the concept of time to us.

Time, for us, is understood to be a manifestation or dimension of the space-time continuum.

God created time. God created eternity itself. So therefore, yes, God can create the eternal. Although our minds will never be able to comprehend it fully.
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Ah, but our eternal Soul will know!
 
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Bladerunner said:
Ah, but our eternal Soul will know!
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Ah yes, but how long will it take for us to comprehend the fullness of God who transcends time and who is beyond infinite in stature?

It would take us an eternity!
 
stillness

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I would suggest you get the question straight, first, mater is not eternal, neither is time and likely neither space but what do I know, "The heavens will be rolled up like a scroll and the elements will be dissolved." Where God lives, there in no time, at least not as we know it. "God dwells in unapproachable light that no man can approach." Einstein discovered that at the speed of light there is no time. And I wonder if there is space there, you may say there has to be, for the light to travel, really at that speed there is space? Also God is Spirit, the creation only reveals Him, let's admit it's over our head. The Bride of Christ will be eternal, that's the wedding in heaven. I understand it's those who have suffered with Him.
 
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stillness said:
The Bride of Christ will be eternal, that's the wedding in heaven.
I understand it's those who have suffered with Him.
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The Bride: "For He chose us in Him before the creation of the world, to be Holy and blameless in His sight."
Would be why rejecting the Holy Spirit can't be forgiven. Appears the bride was already in Him in eternity. Possibly needed to be united with the Holy Spirit: Given to the bride after the Resurrection. "The Spirit and the bride say, come and drink of the water of life freely." The bride rules over the nations of the saved. Have the impression those nations are not eternal like the bride. "Saved through fire but lose their reward," are part of the new heaven and earth. Not claiming to know the mystery.
 
Bladerunner

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JairCrawford said:
Ah yes, but how long will it take for us to comprehend the fullness of God who transcends time and who is beyond infinite in stature?

It would take us an eternity!
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Cor 13:11-12..11."When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12.For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."


God tells we will have knowledge immediately. We will know everyone, Having said that, I doubt very seriously if we will ever know all of what He knows.
 
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