can someone be kicked out of heaven

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Strange if we can work our way out of heaven but not out of hell.
People in hell are not there with eternal life. They are there with human life,
which is a 110% sinful kind of life thru and thru. Eternal life, on the other
hand is a 110% sinless kind of life thru and thru. Ergo: the only works that
people with eternal life can produce are works that God approves-- approves
not just some of the time, nor even most of the time, but all the time.

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kaylagrl

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This logic is the same as those who think once saved you're always saved.

No it is not.There is nothing in the Bible that indicates you can be kicked out of heaven. Satan and his angels were a specific instance,nothing in the Bible indicates its possible for humans to be booted from heaven. There is one final judgement as to where you will spend eternity.You cant just make up a new doctrine saying "what if..." with no Bible proof to back it up.
 

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I suppose there'll be no forgiveness in heaven...not even a 3 strikes law :(
 

notuptome

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Here in this tabernacle of flesh we are saved from the power of sin. Then in heaven we will be saved from the very presence of sin. Nothing in heaven will defile or corrupt us. We will be clothed in the perfect righteousness of Christ our Savior. We will have robes dipped in the blood of Christ and made white, much whiter than snow.

Jesus promised that those who come to Him He will in no wise cast out. If we could get kicked out the those in hell could creep in.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

crossnote

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Perhaps the deeper question is because of free will, will we have the possibility of repeating Lucifer's mistake; and if not how can there be ' free will' in heaven?
 
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Being raised incortuptible does not mean we will stay that way.

wow... your 'teaching'. is beyond comprehension, the Resurrected Body.. the 2nd death , lake of fire has no power over it.. it has no more sin, does not get old, its Glorified as is Jesus's Body.. so your saying that once that is Given to the Believer by Christ, he/she can lose it by his /her own free will? thats absolutely absurd, and diabolical in its foundations.. thats a man made gospel.. teaching in an incorruptible body. yet because of his/her own free will.. 'lose' it.. there is NO GOD , IN THAT KIND OF TEACHING, but man,those teachings are carnal, sensual, and devilish.. smh.. I've seen and watch others teach that you work your way to heaven, but now Once in Heaven, man can 'lose' his/her Eternal Glorified Body? wow.. thats putting all the empahsis on MAN to even keep himself after Glorification.. that is devilish. ! indeed
 
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People that believe this preach people straight into hell. The murderer in that situation would go to hell. Of you believe otherwise good luck explaining to God why you kept sinning.

'GOOD LUCK'.. awe the source of the Illumination.. God doesnt operate on 'luck'. no.. that is pagan, earthly sensual and devilish.... devil or devil power-----> g1142------> daimōn (devil-demon)
  1. a god, a goddess
    1. an inferior deity, whether good or bad
  2. in the NT, an evil spirit

    that word demon-devil is derived From : daio (to distribute fortunes) ( luck)

Sorry. the source of your illumination about 'demons being in christians, the Believer losing his /her resurrected 'body' because of their 'free will'... that Illumination is not from the ETernal.. but another source.. 'luck' gives you away.. indeed!
 
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Galahad

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I think I will stay to form and discuss another touchy subject that I discussed at church the other day. Can someone be kicked out of heaven? My thoughts are yes. When we die and go to heaven we will not lose our free will. And like the angels that followed Lucifer we will have the chance to sin.
If you don't put an END to your pointless chatter, you won't even have a one room apartment there. The land Lord doesn't need a cleaning deposit nor first and last month's. He knows His tenants. No credit check. No background check.

I'll lean over the balcony. When I spot you, "Microscoped, those who would pass from there to here STILL cannot do so, and we who would pass from here to there, well, no bridge, yet. And from the way things look, I doubt if EVER there will be one."

Now knock it off.

NO VACANCY. Flash . NO VACANCY. Flash ...
 
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You seem to have missed a fundimental point. If you walk in openness and communion with the Lord in heaven why would you rebel against this?

In my view of the saved, being saved is confirmation that you have your priorities and consistency worked out, or at least you have started. But you then have the seed that fell on the path or on the rocky ground.
Imagine you die, the seed has born fruit in your heart, but it will not go too far, it will wither and die. Will you go to heaven, because you are saved, only to loose it again because you were too inconsistent.

Jesus does warn us, we are the branches, he is the vine. We perish without him. I think it unlikely you would walk away in eternity from who he is, but you do know in all relationships for love to work the possibility is always there.

Jesus the perfect man, stands before the Lord and says, do I have to drink from this cup? It is so hard, yet not my will but yours. Again the temptation in the desert. For this to be true, Jesus could have taken these points.
For those who say Jesus is the same as the Father, the temptation would have been meaningless, because he would have known and seen it all as it happened. Jesus was different, he did not know the time of the end of times. He did not know who would sit where on the ruling court etc.

Jesus appears to be the message of Gods nature made flesh, a living testimony of who God is, not a book, not an empty form, but a living man who can have relationships with the deciples.

Now for me a wonder is the Turin shroud. It is so strange the Lord wanted us to see his body, after the cross. But after reading and seeing the evidence, I think it is the real thing, given as a gift to us, as a testimony of His great love.

What is also obvious to me, is man lives in emnity to God, and if he saw Him face to face, would spit and revile him.
This world is such a balance between making a world view without God seems to make sense, as a real option, and the reality of Gods presence is everywhere, in all of life, one can but embrace it. For the Lord though, he gives freely to those he chooses, but how does he choose? If you could give eternal life, who would you give it to, and who is so living in their own hell and confusion, you would just want to release them from life?

The more I see of life the more I realise people are lost, stumbling around, hurting themselves, unaware of what drives them on. So ofcourse we could be kicked out of heaven, but that would be insane, and a literal contradiction of the love you have for the Lord.
 
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oldthennew

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if we can but understand our Father's over-all purpose, we can understand the answers
to these questions.
the purpose is stated in Genesis - Let us make man in our image' and the NT states that
God is a Spirit' - so the overall purpose is to give US Eternal Life in the reflection of
the Father and of Jesus Christ, who are 'sinless beings'.

1JOHN 3:2.
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be:
but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

PHILLIPIANS 3:21....
(we shall be like Him) = He is a (perfect, sinless being).

it is written,
that Christ Is the Express Image of the Father and we shall be
the image of Christ.
 
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Delivery

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I think I will stay to form and discuss another touchy subject that I discussed at church the other day. Can someone be kicked out of heaven? My thoughts are yes. When we die and go to heaven we will not lose our free will. And like the angels that followed Lucifer we will have the chance to sin.
The devil got kicked out of heaven. But that's because he refused to accept God's authority. He wanted to be God and have everybody worship him. But the saved who are in Heaven are just the opposite. By accepting Jesus and His sacrifice for our sins we do accept God's authority over us. A saved person isn't saved because he doesn't sin. A saved person is saved because he repents of his sins and accepts Jesus as his Lord and savior. Therefore, he can't get kicked out of heaven because all of his sins are forgiven through faith in Jesus, and because he has accepted God's authority in His life. It's a different situation with the devil and the fallen angels.
 

Jimbone

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Are any of us going to heaven? I was under the impression wewill be living here on the earth after its total restoration. I also thoughtthat those asleep in Christ are in Abrahams bosom until the earth is restoredas well. Sorry I am in a situation I can’t look up supporting scriptures rightnow, and don’t have them memorized so I reserve the right to be wrong on this.I will be looking into it as soon as I get home later now, and if I am way offbase I will come back and say so later.

Oh, and I still understand what the OP is asking and I say “no” as well.

 

MarcR

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NO!........
 
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I think I will stay to form and discuss another touchy subject that I discussed at church the other day. Can someone be kicked out of heaven? My thoughts are yes. When we die and go to heaven we will not lose our free will. And like the angels that followed Lucifer we will have the chance to sin.

This is pretty much, words I shouldn't say - how about read your bible and stop making foolish claims that you know nothing about. In case you didn't know, Angels are not made in the image of God, and Jesus didn't die for the angels. There is no sin in heaven, you need a new church I think, probably one that actually preaches the Bible
 
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The savior never fails but we do. What you then say is that when I was eight and accepted Christ that was it. I was in heaven. So all the backsliding I did over the years didn't matter and if I die while in a backslidden state I can still go to heaven. That makes no sense. I always like to go for the worst case so here goes. If I accept Christ at eight and become a mass murderer at twelve the age of accountabity and continued my killing till Fifty where I died in a shoot out with the cops ( which by the way if there's any cops out there thank you for your work) do I go to heaven or hell?

Hypothetical situations are kind of foolish, because you start with man centered theology, instead of the Attributes of God
 
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No one can be kicked out who have yet to enter heaven, satan and 1/3 of the Angels were kicked out. I recall no record of any humans in heave. Having been kicked out.
 
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microscoped

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No it is not.There is nothing in the Bible that indicates you can be kicked out of heaven. Satan and his angels were a specific instance,nothing in the Bible indicates its possible for humans to be booted from heaven. There is one final judgement as to where you will spend eternity.You cant just make up a new doctrine saying "what if..." with no Bible proof to back it up.
Does not this judgement come after the thousand year reign? What if during this thousand year reign the murderer someone said would go to heaven still has the same venomous mindset?