Catholic Church a Proponent of Doctrines of Demons?

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Shiloah

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Does it make sense to anyone that God created humanity in its entirety yet would only send His Son to save the Jews? Salvation came through the Jews, He did not come only for the Jews, otherwise all we have here is a religion created by Jews for Jews. Moreover, since Christianity is a belief that belongs to just about any culture but the Jews at this point, where's the rational in that?

I'd think the answer is obvious.
 
yahuadah

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Okay......If I misinterpreted the scriptures of Romans 11, Go read revelation 21 come back and tell me what it says?
 
yahuadah

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God created humanity but then he seperated them into nations and chose one for his covenant and laws. Before Christ came only Israel was given laws.
Then christ came to wash away there sins because sin is the transgression of the law. The other nations were not given any laws for that being didn't transgress the law and didn't need to be saved from nothing.
 
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Shiloah

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yahuadah said:
God created humanity but then he seperated them into nations and chose one for his covenant and laws. Before Christ came only Israel was given laws.
Then christ came to wash away there sins because sin is the transgression of the law. The other nations were not given any laws for that being didn't transgress the law and didn't need to be saved from nothing.
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Your reasoning is totally bogus and confused. Clearly, nothing I could show you scripturally would make a difference because you'd only see it through your distorted glasses (reasoning). Some discussions are clearly a waste of time.
 
yahuadah

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Shiloah said:
Your reasoning is totally bogus and confused. Clearly, nothing I could show you scripturally would make a difference because you'd only see it through your distorted glasses (reasoning). Some discussions are clearly a waste of time.
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If you think I am a nut job go read revelation 21 come back and tell me what it says.
 
OrthodoxCatholic

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Yes the RCC is an anti-church set up by the devil to spread confusion, which is has since 1054.

Many may disagree but look out of whom Protestantism came out of, the RCC. And the Enlightenment came forth from Protestantism which led to atheism and the separation of Church and State. Both RCC and Protestantism are seriously off-based. Lutherans wrote the Patriarch of Constantinople shortly after Luther broke with Rome, thinking that the Orthodox would be theologically Lutheran since they were free from Roman corruption; however, they soon found out that the Orthodox Church, and therefore historic Christianity, was not like Lutheranism.
 
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Mammachickadee

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yahuadah said:
God created humanity but then he seperated them into nations and chose one for his covenant and laws. Before Christ came only Israel was given laws.
Then christ came to wash away there sins because sin is the transgression of the law. The other nations were not given any laws for that being didn't transgress the law and didn't need to be saved from nothing.
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So if only the Jews are under the law, that means the rest of us are going to heaven by default, right? After all... where there is no law to be broken there is to consequence to be had. (rhetorical question)
 
yahuadah

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Mammachickadee said:
So if only the Jews are under the law, that means the rest of us are going to heaven by default, right? After all... where there is no law to be broken there is to consequence to be had. (rhetorical question)
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Yeah that's right, where there's no law theirs no sin. Could be, I don't know anything about that. If I say something of it I would be lying.


I know this is kinda far fetched, but what's your nationality?
 
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Mammachickadee

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yahuadah said:
Yeah that's right, where there's no law theirs no sin. Could be, I don't know anything about that. If I say something of it I would be lying.


I know this is kinda far fetched, but what's your nationality?
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Bohemian Jew. My grandmother is of Jewish blood and moved with her parents from the Czech Republic area when she was a child. lol Don't go by my nationality, though. :) I'm as unracist as they get and believe that, though the Bible instruct all nations not to harm Israel, Israel is one of the least deserving nations of anything in this world. They cause their own problems and are one of the last to come to Christ because of their unnecessary pride.
 
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Mammachickadee

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yahuadah said:
Yeah that's right, where there's no law theirs no sin. Could be, I don't know anything about that. If I say something of it I would be lying.


I know this is kinda far fetched, but what's your nationality?
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that would seem a contradiction. :) God chose them to be His privileged folk but made them the only ones to be damned without coming to Him (few of whom actually do)?
 
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Mammachickadee said:
that would seem a contradiction. :) God chose them to be His privileged folk but made them the only ones to be damned without coming to Him (few of whom actually do)?
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So where is the contradiction?
 
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Bohemian Jew. My grandmother is of Jewish blood and moved with her parents from the Czech Republic area when she was a child. lol Don't go by my nationality, though. :) I'm as unracist as they get and believe that, though the Bible instruct all nations not to harm Israel, Israel is one of the least deserving nations of anything in this world. They cause their own problems and are one of the last to come to Christ because of their unnecessary pride.
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You know you cant convert to be a jew right? and I understand all those people in Israel today who call themselves Jew-ISH and Israelis are bunch of converts European and arabs who converted into a religion called Judaism. I also understand when rome sacked Jeruselem in 70 AD and fled into all nations mostly west Africa around the mountains taking heed to Christ's prophecy and stay in west Africa for a thousand years which the bible refers to it as time, times and half a time. until the curse of Deuteronomy came on them and were held captives. while this was all happening, the romans set themselves as the jews, if not then what happened to the romans? then in 1948 bunch of Arabs and Europeans came together and got the state of Israel through the UN. I can pull out many verse and bible prophecies that can prove my statement right.

And I am not being racist, I am just telling the truth.
 
yahuadah

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Mammachickadee said:
Since when was it a privilege to be the only people God damned to hell?
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I am not say the gentiles or the jews are damned, I can only say what the bible says and this is what the bible says.

Deuteronomy 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

Isaiah 40;15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing[SUP]16[/SUP] And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering
[SUP]17[/SUP] All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

This is the judgement of the other nations in the last days for what they did to gods people. god showed Isaiah a vision concerning the last days in christ's kingdom. And this is why Christ says salvation is of the jews.

Isaiah 14 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
[SUP]2[/SUP] And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

[SUP]21[/SUP] Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

Thus says the lord........NOT ME.
 
4enlightment

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Every church has it's own weakness and strength, but all churches is separating us from God's righteousness by separating from each other. The disciples had dealt with all types of believers but they did not separate from them because it is not good for a believers to divorce from one another. They are suppose to stay as one and come to an agreement in order to cast out the bad doctrines from the goods.

Acts 6:1 In those days when the number of disciples was increasing, the Hellenistic Jews among them complained against the Hebraic Jews because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution of food.
 
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Mammachickadee

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yahuadah said:
I am not say the gentiles or the jews are damned, I can only say what the bible says and this is what the bible says.

Deuteronomy 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

Isaiah 40;15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing[SUP]16[/SUP] And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering
[SUP]17[/SUP] All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

This is the judgement of the other nations in the last days for what they did to gods people. god showed Isaiah a vision concerning the last days in christ's kingdom. And this is why Christ says salvation is of the jews.

Isaiah 14 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
[SUP]2[/SUP] And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

[SUP]21[/SUP] Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

Thus says the lord........NOT ME.
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There's being consecrated and then there's being holy. Slight differences as the Israelites proved significantly. They were consecrated, but most of the time they did not live truly holy lives. "Obedience is better than sacrifice." I don't care what your background is, nationality, appearance, or heritage... You can only be holy if you are a believer. You can only be consecrated through God's grace. God has consecrated people both Israeli/Jew of Gentile... not because of their works or worthiness but because of HIS grace. Was Rahab a believer? yes. Was she a Jew/Israelite? No. What about Ruth? both women were adopted by marriage into the nation of Israel... and they were the ancestor's of Christ!
Do not put so much emphasis in your study of the Bible on Israel. I don't know what your ancestry is, but the Bible warns against discussing vain genealogies.
9 Stay away from mindless, pointless quarreling over genealogies and fine print in the law code. That gets you nowhere. 10 Warn a quarrelsome person once or twice, but then be done with him.11 It's obvious that such a person is out of line, rebellious against God. By persisting in divisiveness he cuts himself off. 12 As soon as I send either Artemas or Tychicus to you, come immediately and meet me in Nicopolis. I've decided to spend the winter there. 13 Give Zenas the lawyer and Apollos a hearty send-off. Take good care of them. 14 Our people have to learn to be diligent in their work so that all necessities are met (especially among the needy) and they don't end up with nothing to show for their lives. 15 All here want to be remembered to you. Say hello to our friends in the faith. Grace to all of you. -Titus 3:9-15
 
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yahuadah said:
I am not say the gentiles or the jews are damned, I can only say what the bible says and this is what the bible says.

Deuteronomy 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Isaiah 40;15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing[SUP]16[/SUP] And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering
[SUP]17[/SUP] All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

This is the judgement of the other nations in the last days for what they did to gods people. god showed Isaiah a vision concerning the last days in christ's kingdom. And this is why Christ says salvation is of the jews.

Isaiah 14 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
[SUP]2[/SUP] And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

[SUP]21[/SUP] Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

Thus says the lord........NOT ME.[/QUOT]
That's philosophy....... Collossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the.

Amos 9:8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.

9 For, lo, I will command, and I will SIFT the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth
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Mammachickadee

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yahuadah said:
Okay......If I misinterpreted the scriptures of Romans 11, Go read revelation 21 come back and tell me what it says?
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It says that the names of the 12 tribes will be inscribed above the doors. That doesn't mean only the 12 tribes will enter...
 
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Mammachickadee

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yahuadah said:
I am not say the gentiles or the jews are damned, I can only say what the bible says and this is what the bible says.

Deuteronomy 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

Isaiah 40;15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing[SUP]16[/SUP] And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering
[SUP]17[/SUP] All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

This is the judgement of the other nations in the last days for what they did to gods people. god showed Isaiah a vision concerning the last days in christ's kingdom. And this is why Christ says salvation is of the jews.

Isaiah 14 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
[SUP]2[/SUP] And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

[SUP]21[/SUP] Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

Thus says the lord........NOT ME.
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Actually, that's what you should be recognizing. Both Jews and Gentiles are damned because of their inherent sin nature. Christ died for those that God chooses (PRESENT TENSE) to save... whether Jew, Greek, Romanian, British, Slavic, Indian, Oriental... etc. People from every generation and every heritage will rise up and call Him Wonderful Counsellor, Mighty God, Prince of Peace, Everlasting Father... of whom there will be no end.
 
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