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Didn't you intend to say NOBEL laureates?

The same folks gave honor to Pres. elect Hussein Barack Obama upon the hope that what he promised would come true. They were very wrong in their hope, their assessment. They are dishonored, made fools after already making themselves fools for opposing God.
When I went through the then current geology courses, the prevailing official belief about plate tectonics was assuming the original continental mass was one continent, named Pangaea by our academia. The current global pattern of continents suggest all were physically joined, then separated into the current pattern. I remember cutting out continents then fitting them together almost perfectly into one continent as a short class exercise. From that came reasons for specualtion as to how long it took for those to move to present locations. Today a new factor has become more plausible, that the major part of that continental separation was catastrophic in nature due to studies of the oceanic divides (trenches) and associated rifts, mountain ranges in the ocean floors that suggest the oceanic trenches are still spreading, producing uplifts that affect continental uplifts, the mountains we see above sea level. After some ancient initial upheaval the whole process has slowed to a very small rate of inches per year, such that now continents are actually pressuring other continents towards a reunion. In the natural that would take millions of years at current rates, but meanwhile create great geologic havoc from earthquakes.

Another effect is geologic "subduction", a concept of the earth's crust being recycled at the oceanic trenches or continental shelves close to edges of continents, sending what we see back to the supposed original source magma deep in the earth. Actually that part of the earth is often relatively part of the outer crust, giving evidence through amazing geologic events like volcanoes. That's probably what you referred to. There is plenty of evidence to suggest most geologic activity has happened relatively recently, in tune with the record of the Bible. Had current geologic signs been a regular steady occurrence, life as we know it could not have continued.
 
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Word_Swordsman said:
That woman on the right. I'm almost certain she checks me out in the grocery.
LOL.

Several remind me of someone else.
I believe that is the idea. She is meant to represent a modern human female.
 
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Anyways to the spirit of the thread and OP they were preadamic and wiped out as you can only find bones and no representative today. This is what causes the lie of evolution. There was stuff going on here before Adam and we are digging up this stuff and trying to tie it to modern day which cannot and will not happen. Hence evolution and the lie that it is.
 
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#84
Wow. Just WOW!

I don't know where to begin. Maybe from page 1 and just grind through?
 
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Maybe from page 1.
 
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#86
Or just read Jeremiah 35 carefully.
 
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My bad Its Jeremiah 4 sorry I'll post the scripture shortly.
 
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23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.
27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

When since Adam was there no man?
 
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Who built the cities
 
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Digging up bones does not prove evolution it only verifies what the bible say's that there was stuff here before Adam.
 
Aug 25, 2013
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the defining characteristics of an animal is subjective thinking.
Only humans are capable of the objectivity required for objective reasoning and therefore language.
Whenever any animal develops objective reasoning it becomes human and develops language.
there is no in between.
The jump (passing over) from animal to human is all or nothing.
You are using the wrong analogy. Imagine the flightless ancestral form of birds. Once flight is achieved then we might say the bird form has arrived, but the bird does not stop being an animal. The better analogy with humans is to imagine a nonverbal human progenitor. Once the fully modern human arrives on the scene, then humans have arrived, but we don't suddenly surrender the characteristics that define us as animals. Those all remain in place. Acquiring physical and mental features that define us as human may mean we are no longer the nonverbal ancestral form, but we are still in the animal lineage. That doesn't change. You are confusing species with kingdom. The species classification changes, but we remain under the heading, Kingdom: Animalia.
 
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Jeremiah 4 say's that were birds before men and that they were destroyed read it again slowly and carefully.

23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.
27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
 
May 15, 2013
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Who built the cities
From another text it said that Adam and Eve had lived in caves. As time went by, the children started making little tents made from animal skins. It was common in those times to live in caves. There's someone that went by the name Mother Shipton and she is known to have been living in caves with her husband in the 1500's. Even Jesus was born in a cave where they had kept there livestock. Caverns stays at a nice temperature all year round, even in the winter.

Genesis 19:30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave.

Joshua 10:17 When Joshua was told that the five kings had been found hiding in the cave at Makkedah,

Judges 6:2 Because the power of Midian was so oppressive, the Israelites prepared shelters for themselves in mountain clefts, caves and strongholds.

1 Samuel 13:6 When the Israelites saw that their situation was critical and that their army was hard pressed, they hid in caves and thickets, among the rocks, and in pits and cisterns.


 
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From another text it said that Adam and Eve had lived in caves. As time went by, the children started making little tents made from animal skins. It was common in those times to live in caves. There's someone that went by the name Mother Shipton and she is known to have been living in caves with her husband in the 1500's. Even Jesus was born in a cave where they had kept there livestock. Caverns stays at a nice temperature all year round, even in the winter.

Genesis 19:30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave.

Joshua 10:17 When Joshua was told that the five kings had been found hiding in the cave at Makkedah,

Judges 6:2 Because the power of Midian was so oppressive, the Israelites prepared shelters for themselves in mountain clefts, caves and strongholds.

1 Samuel 13:6 When the Israelites saw that their situation was critical and that their army was hard pressed, they hid in caves and thickets, among the rocks, and in pits and cisterns.


That's awesome but when were there cities and no man? as the text declares?
 
Nov 3, 2014
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Jeremiah 4:23-27 is a view of the pre-adamite earth after the Lord's judgment against Satan's rebellion

The cities were built by Satan and fallen angels that inhabited the universe and the earth

All of these things were destroyed in the judgment to punish them for their intransigence against the Lord, the universe was plunged into darkness, and the earth was covered with the waters below and the thick water vapors above [2 Peter 3:1-6]

This covering of the waters of the great deep was generated by the Lord's warming of the destructive frozen ice sheet that came as the result of the rapid cooling of the earth's surface because of the darkness .... all of the life forms on the earth were quickly frozen and destroyed .... and the earth's crust was twisted and over turned in this process

This is why the earth's crust bears the remains of the fossils of the animal life that was instantly destroyed

Then the Lord reconditioned the earth, but left the other planets uninhabitable and with the scars of the judgment as they appear today

He lifted the darkness and introduced new life forms on the reconditioned earth including mankind about 6000 years ago

In the beginning of creation all of His universe was perfect and inhabited by the angelic realm [Job 38:1-7]

Then Satan rebelled and 1/3 of the angels with him [Ezekiel 28:12-18; Revelation 12:4]

When mankind was placed upon the earth with the reconditioning acts of Genesis 1:2-31 Satan came to the earth to investigate what the Lord had done [Genesis 3]
 
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Thats close and very close good job. But what about He allowed the sun to shine as it was created in verse one as God created the heavens and the Earth and the moon also. They have been here for eons past but allowed to give there light after the fourth day of creation. so digging up bones and trying to paste them to modern man is bogus.
 
Nov 3, 2014
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The Genesis account of the reconditioning is from the perspective of being on the earth in total darkness .... the sun, moon, and other heavenly bodies were present, but could not be seen from the earth because of the thick water vapors above

Total darkness covered the earth and if you were there you would not have been able to see you hand in front of your face

Then Lord caused [made] the light to be visible by dissipating and separating the waters above from the waters below and the sun, moon, and the heavens could be seen from the earth
 
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When I went through the then current geology courses, the prevailing official belief about plate tectonics was assuming the original continental mass was one continent, named Pangaea by our academia. The current global pattern of continents suggest all were physically joined, then separated into the current pattern. I remember cutting out continents then fitting them together almost perfectly into one continent as a short class exercise. From that came reasons for specualtion as to how long it took for those to move to present locations. Today a new factor has become more plausible, that the major part of that continental separation was catastrophic in nature due to studies of the oceanic divides (trenches) and associated rifts, mountain ranges in the ocean floors that suggest the oceanic trenches are still spreading, producing uplifts that affect continental uplifts, the mountains we see above sea level. After some ancient initial upheaval the whole process has slowed to a very small rate of inches per year, such that now continents are actually pressuring other continents towards a reunion. In the natural that would take millions of years at current rates, but meanwhile create great geologic havoc from earthquakes.

Another effect is geologic "subduction", a concept of the earth's crust being recycled at the oceanic trenches or continental shelves close to edges of continents, sending what we see back to the supposed original source magma deep in the earth. Actually that part of the earth is often relatively part of the outer crust, giving evidence through amazing geologic events like volcanoes. That's probably what you referred to. There is plenty of evidence to suggest most geologic activity has happened relatively recently, in tune with the record of the Bible. Had current geologic signs been a regular steady occurrence, life as we know it could not have continued.
That's my point...it would take millions of years, but, according to our scientists, we are playing with over 65 million years and (at some point) started with Pangaea. So, if half of Pangaea was shoved under another layer of crust it would, theoretically, be destroyed, as well as the bones/fossils that were in it. So some parts of the earth should have a much newer plates than those from the original "Pangaea", regardless of how long it took for them to move half way around the world. Although, I must say that it seems highly improbable that Pangaea would fit together as well, as is claimed, after such damage, that would no doubt be caused by a huge continent separating into several new continents. When the separations occurred, did water rush in and cool the magma/lava? There is a scripture that says:

Genesis 10:25Two sons were born to Eber; the name of the one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan.

It seems to me that this verse could be talking about the Tower of Babel just as easily as the physical separation of the earth's crust, nevertheless, the verse frequently comes to mind. Maybe it's talking about both: physical separation and the language barrier.
 
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That's awesome but when were there cities and no man? as the text declares?

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