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Kerry

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How many witnesses of evolution are there and how many witnesses of Jesus Christ? Stop and do the numbers. Millions to none any scientist would hold to the positive and reject the negative
 
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Poor diet and exposure to toxins can cause all sort of deformities. If toxins from animals and plants enter into the bloodstream might cause some deformities; but some deformities isn't noticeable than others. Like some of these deformities effects the insides, like not producing that right amount of hormones and which causes all sort of problems in a person behavior. We all has problems of some sort, but we cannot detect them and the reason why? It is due to what we think is natural, isn't natural at all. That is why God had came down to show us what is natural behavior for us, and what is not. The pre-flood people were eating improper foods, because God wouldn't have made dietary laws unless if they were doing so.. Drinking blood that is fill with all sorts of diseases ( pathogens) can causes all sort of problems, and which I believe that they were doing in those times. And then they were practicing incest and which that is known to cause deformities. But once all these acts has stop suddenly, it will be a sudden drop of deformities and it will not take over a millions of years for that change to take place. God is trying to rebuke (Correcting) us, to make the beings that He has intended for us to be.


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Q:What causes deformities in incest?

A: Among all the thousands of genes in the 26 chromosomes, almost *everybody* has a bad gene or two. Most of the time, this isn't a problem because the *other* chromosome is fine and has a good copy, and most of the bad mutations are fairly rare, so the chances of marrying some random person who also has the bad gene is very low.

The problem when you start marrying relatives and having children in them is that the chances go *way* up that if *you* have a bad copy of a gene, the other person does too. For instance, most of the royal families in Europe are related, so everybody is each other's second cousin, if not closer. The end result was that a *lot* of royal children got born with hemophilia because their father got the bad gene from his great-grandfather, and the mother got it from her great--grandfather, because it was the same guy.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071027015629AAMvIpd
 
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Kerry

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We have directly observed the emergence of new species from their older "parents" in nature, and laboratories. I have compiled a list of dozens of the more interesting examples. Stones and Bones: Emergence of New Species

Compile your list it makes no never mind. Millions healed, set free from alcohol addiction, Heroin, cocaine and meth, and cancer removed. What does your science say to that? ac conservative number would be 3 billion people witnesses of God and you just gonna throw that in the trash. You are not scientific at all just bent on trying to prove that God is not real and you will fail just like your father Satan. Good night.
 
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Compile your list it makes no never mind. Millions healed, set free from alcohol addiction, Heroin, cocaine and meth, and cancer removed. What does your science say to that? ac conservative number would be 3 billion people witnesses of God and you just gonna throw that in the trash. You are not scientific at all just bent on trying to prove that God is not real and you will fail just like your father Satan. Good night.
Ah- you are a drug addict.

I am sorry.

The bankers and corrupt police at the center of the drug trade seem to be impervious to the law or human decency.
 
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How many witnesses of evolution are there and how many witnesses of Jesus Christ? Stop and do the numbers. Millions to none any scientist would hold to the positive and reject the negative
Here is the problem as it pertains to stories in the Bible about Jesus. They might only be stories. We have no verification that any of it is true. There are few, to no, first hand accounts of Jesus in scripture. Are you able to provide just one example, Kerry, of a first hand account? I won't ask for a second unless you can give me a first.
 
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Kerry said:
You are not scientific at all just bent on trying to prove that God is not real and you will fail just like your father Satan.
Kerry the good professor provided examples of evolution as per your request. It doesn't matter that he gave only about a dozen to your claimed millions, a dozen is all that is required to demonstrate the flaw in your claim that evolution has not been observed.

My question to you is, why do you resort to this kind of rhetoric instead of providing a proper rebuttal? It makes one wonder whether you are simply lost for words. When someone starts jabbering on about me being the spawn of Satan, I typically take this a evidence I have won the war of words.
 
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Kerry said:
You are... just bent on trying to prove that God is not real....
I missed this in my last post. Has Dr Hurd said a single thing about God not being real? I don't think he has mentioned God's existence at all. He has provided a very good case against the Creationists' anti-scientific claims, but I don't think he has made a single argument against the existence of God. Do correct me if I am wrong.
 

nl

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How many witnesses of evolution are there and how many witnesses of Jesus Christ? Stop and do the numbers. Millions to none any scientist would hold to the positive and reject the negative
The proposed Big Bang had no witnesses. The proposed Neanderthal race has no contemporaneous, written record.

Here is the problem as it pertains to stories in the Bible about Jesus. They might only be stories. We have no verification that any of it is true. There are few, to no, first hand accounts of Jesus in scripture. Are you able to provide just one example, Kerry, of a first hand account? I won't ask for a second unless you can give me a first.
1 Corinthians 15 might be called "The Resurrection Chapter" just like 1 Corinthians 13 might be called "The Love Chapter". Here is the Apostle Paul's testimony concerning eyewitnesses to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ:

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas (Peter), then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. (1 Co 15:3–9).

Witnesses to the grace and Spirit and power of God have continued in every generation since the first generation of Christians in the first century.
 
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Here is the "missing link"

His name is the Son of God ..... Jesus Christ
Hi Straightshot,
You are off the mark, but I don't think you are aware of it. Creationists often think of evolution as being like a ladder with humans at the top, at the very pinnacle of creation. Because they see life as a hierarchy they expect that if evolution is true then there must be missing links, ie. missing steps on the ladder leading to man. However, evolution is better understood not as a ladder, but as a bush with many diverging branches. What this means is that one species does not arrive at the very moment another one disappears, rather any given lineage will continuously branch as it morphs, and each line will head in any number of directions.

Our own human lineage is perhaps one of the best examples of this branching and slow morphing from one phenotype to another, and should be easy – especially easy – for a creationist to understand. Start with Noah and his seven sons. From that phenotype, whatever it was, they then evolved into all the racial types we find in the world today, from Africa through the Middle East, into India and Asia, to Australia and North and South America and throughout Europe, north to south.

I don’t need to point out the obvious physical differences between an African Pygmy and someone from Japan or a Nordic Swede. That they all evolved from a single phenotype into the variety that now exists is as much a requirement of the Genesis flood story, as it is of evolution. However, should I now ask you to provide the missing link between any of these three, can you do it? Can you show me a missing link between the African Pygmy and someone from the island of Japan? Do you see the difficulty in such a request? First, you are not looking for a missing link, but rather you must search for a common ancestor of the two. Can you find it? You know a common ancestor must exist if the biblical flood account is true, so point me to the fossil of that common ancestor. Now, if you find it, you must locate a series of further fossils demonstrating the progression from that centre point to each of the two end stages (Pygmy and Japanese) to prove that the two are actually connected.

You have an hypothesis based upon your understanding of Genesis that the Pygmy and the Japanese are related to one another, but prove to me these were not two separate creation events by establishing a fossil trail. You expect this of anyone promoting evolution, so prove your own claim the same way. Do you see the difficulty? There really are no missing links. There are only common ancestors and slow progressions as one phenotype transforms gradually into another.
 
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The proposed Neanderthal race has no contemporaneous, written record.
And your point is what, exactly?

There is no contemporaneous written record of anybody prior to say around 3,000 BC is there?

The Native Americans in the United States don't have any contemporaneous written record until the arrival of the Europeans, do they?
 
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1 Corinthians 15 might be called "The Resurrection Chapter" just like 1 Corinthians 13 might be called "The Love Chapter". Here is the Apostle Paul's testimony concerning eyewitnesses to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ:

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas (Peter), then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. (1 Co 15:3–9).

Witnesses to the grace and Spirit and power of God have continued in every generation since the first generation of Christians in the first century.
Nl, this is not an eye witness account. Paul was not present at the crucifixion. It is not a first person account. Try again.
 

nl

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Nl, this is not an eye witness account. Paul was not present at the crucifixion. It is not a first person account. Try again.
Thanks. The Apostle John was there at the cross with Mary, the mother of Jesus. John also visited the empty tomb of Jesus Christ on Easter morning. John later wrote the Gospel of John, three epistles and the Book of Revelation where He shares his testimony of what he saw and experienced.
 
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Ah- you are a drug addict.

I am sorry.

The bankers and corrupt police at the center of the drug trade seem to be impervious to the law or human decency.
I think that statement calls for an end to this thread. Shameful!
 

blue_ladybug

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I think that statement calls for an end to this thread. Shameful!
Amen and it's about time!! When people on here start calling one another drug addicts, it's time to close this thread and move on. Just sayin'...
 
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Nl, this is not an eye witness account. Paul was not present at the crucifixion. It is not a first person account. Try again.
That is not likely, though we don't have the list of all Pharisees, priests, Sadducees, scribes, and others attending the crucifixion to verify that. Paul (then "Saul") was a most active Pharisee in opposition to Jesus, if at all possible would have been there with a big smile and beaming with victory. He is the Saul in Acts 7:58-59 (KJV)
[SUP]58 [/SUP] And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
[SUP]59 [/SUP] And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

Acts 22:19-20 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in
every synagogue them that believed on thee:
[SUP]20 [/SUP] And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.


The persecution of believers began before Jesus was crucified, initiated by Herod in the killing of children under two in an effort to kill Jesus, the Jews continuing to persecute after the crucifixion. Jesus walked away from stonings aimed at Him, escaped plots. Judas was recruited to betray Jesus.
 
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VioletReigns

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There's nothing wrong with living in a cave.

Lot's of people have lived in caves.

You can go live in a cave right now if you want to.

But choosing to live in a cave has nothing to do with evolution... which is a faulty premise.

I often daydreamed of living in a cave. Whenever times got really rough and I was struggling with family or work, I thought running away to go live in a cave with just a few sticks of furniture and a kitty cat sounded quite nice. There was only one thing that stopped me: snakes! \:eek:/ EEEK!


Seriously though, I love studying about quantum physics, astronomy, geography, plate tectonics, DNA, and everything that God created with His Word. It's a privilege to have a minute understanding of the miraculous power of our Creator. But as for mankind attempting to grasp the every how & when & why of God's handiwork, I laugh. Every single thing we think we have discovered winds up getting debunked by the next thing. Or else we see a fraction of an anti-quark of some minute idea and we proclaim, "Voilà! Now we know." But we don't know. Everything is a theory. We don't understand gravity, we can't measure time because it really doesn't exist, space-time is relative, are we expanding or contracting, how can space be infinite, etc., etc. We find a piece of a bone and claim the whole of creation began with it. I laugh with God because it's absurd. We don't know and we never will till we stand beside Him and say, "Oh wow Lord, that's cool. It makes sense now."

The most important thing to remember is that you can't unite man's intellect with God's spirituality. In Romans 8:7 it is written:
The mind governed by the flesh (carnal, man's intellect) is hostile to God, because it does not submit itself to God's law, for it is unable (impossible) to do so.

So I just enjoy being amazed and thrilled and flabbergasted at the wonderful works of the Lord while understanding that I will never grasp it completely until I'm with Him face to face.