Christ in You is the Hope of Glory.

zone · Oct 1, 2011

FALSE.

Luke 17:21

New Living Translation (©2007)
You won't be able to say, 'Here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For the Kingdom of God is already among you."

English Standard Version (©2001)
nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst."

International Standard Version (©2008)
People won't be saying, 'Look! Here it is!' or 'There it is!' because now the kingdom of God is among you."

HE WAS REFERRING TO HIMSELF AS KING....the jews rejected Him.
this false teaching is so tiresome.

Laodicea · Oct 1, 2011

GaryMac said:

Our work is to surrender all to Him everyday so He can work in us.
Isaiah 64:8
(8) But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.
Romans 6:16
(16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

GaryMac · Oct 1, 2011

Abiding said:

I understand perfectly. and yes I am trying to explain to you what is is to be Christ in you. and yes if you are anything less than what what Jesus came to give you, the Christ, then you do not follow His way for you at all. You follow your own way. Your way is not His way, His way is Christ. Christ in you. Same SPirit in you who was in Christ Jesus. Yes I am trying to explaine to you.

What other way do you know of other than Christ be in you? If you know a different way it isnt of Christ for He is the way, the only way you will have a relationship with God Himself. Christ in you. Jesus said in that day you will ask me nothing but go to the Father for yourself. When is that day for you?

Laodicea · Oct 1, 2011

zone said:

That is true Zone He was referring to Himself. In the next verse He refers to Himself.
Luke 17:22
(22) And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

zone · Oct 1, 2011

GaryMac said:

I understand perfectly. and yes I am trying to explain to you what is is to be Christ in you. and yes if you are anything less than what what Jesus came to give you, the Christ, then you do not follow His way for you at all. You follow your own way. Your way is not His way, His way is Christ. Christ in you. Same SPirit in you who was in Christ Jesus. Yes I am trying to explaine to you.

What other way do you know of other than Christ be in you? If you know a different way it isnt of Christ for He is the way, the only way you will have a relationship with God Himself. Christ in you. Jesus said in that day you will ask me nothing but go to the Father for yourself. When is that day for you?

you deny the Deity of Christ.
you say He was born again in 30AD.

enough please.

Abiding · Oct 1, 2011

GaryMac said:

I dont need you to explain faith. I dont need you to explain John 17 or Christ in me...or anything.
I need you to understand i need you to stop telling people that if they dont understand it perfectly
they are not at all walking with God. Thats my first exhortation to you.

GaryMac · Oct 1, 2011

zone said:

Amen I agree it is tiresome. Truth is the kingdom of God is in your Midst, Mid, in the middle of you, among you waling as He walks, Same SPirit same mind. Cool I like this. On earth as it is in heaven. Good job.

GaryMac · Oct 1, 2011

zone said:

Are you sugesting that Gods Spirit didnt come to Jesus and open all of heaven ot him? Matt 3:16? Where do you get that God didnt do this?

ANd no I do not deny the diety of Christ at all He and I are one. it is He who came and opend heaven to me. See Matt 3:16. It happens in us all who recieve from God His Spirit.

GaryMac · Oct 1, 2011

Laodicea said:

He was refering to you and who you are. Are you saying that Christ doent speak toyou in these words?

Ramon · Oct 1, 2011

Amen Gary. Amen!!!

May Jesus bless you.

GaryMac · Oct 1, 2011

Abiding said:

Oh so you want me to stop telling people to follow the Christ instea dof your doctrine? I get it! But that will never happen. Christ in you assures you that what Jesus had in him. If you cant deal with Christ in you I understand. it is the way of the world, but we in Christ are not of this world, we are as He is and one with Him. Tyr Him you might like Him.

Laodicea · Oct 1, 2011

GaryMac said:

He was referring to Himself the word within can also be translated among. God has always been with His people.
Exodus 25:8
(8) And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.
Matthew 28:20
(20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Laodicea · Oct 1, 2011

GaryMac said:

The problem for them is that they did not recognize Christ.
John 1:10-11
(10) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
(11) He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

GaryMac · Oct 1, 2011

Laodicea said:

No... Jesus knew who he was. He dont need your help, He is refering to who do not knwo who he is. How can he dwell among you if you say he is not come yet? He is come and has made His abode in man, He is in me and others, He is knocking at your door this day wanting to come to you and be in you and sup with you Himself, But you have other agendas for Him.

GaryMac · Oct 1, 2011

Ramon said:

Thanks, I am blessed and may you be blessed in Christ.

GaryMac · Oct 1, 2011

Laodicea said:

Exactly and the point I have been stressing. Those who are of this world will not see the Christ at at all. Christ in you, He coming and making His abode in you. Same SPirit same mind. If you cant see that in yourself then you are of this wolrd and not of Christ.

cronjecj · Oct 1, 2011

GaryMac said:

cronjecj said:

Re-posting this in the right thread.

Red33 · Oct 1, 2011

Abiding said:

You got a problem with what GaryMac said. I wonder what Zone thinks about this OP. Perhaps this is the kind of discipleship that Christ requires from His disciples who follow the Lord in the next step and place that He leads. Of course it's going to take mercy and grace and a great big cross to follow, but we are called to be His disciple. Do you ignore the scriptures or do you live by them...

Lk 14:26,27,33 ...26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath , he cannot be my disciple.

Those are pretty heavy duty demands to make upon His disciples, he has to hate his family, his own life and all that he has or he can't be a disciple. Can you hack it Abiding, can you be that kind of a disciple or are you going to charge our Lord Jesus Christ with being legalistic for making such demands? These demands are not practical and make no provision for the flesh nor do they accomodate for a believer to have some little reform church to settle into that has no personal cross, no fire, no outreach but just a laid back, I'll do what I want and you can do what you want and we'll call that liberty from God. Jesus had no place to lay His head but you do.

You call the OP trash, but it's conviction with a cross and you want nothing to do with it. You would rather label it with your own label of rejection then to be entreated by it. That's why you are stiff necked because you want the Christian life to be comfortable for your flesh instead of getting it crucified experientially through a personal cross that YOU must take up.

seraphprincess · Oct 1, 2011

No one is perfect, we're all sinners. Human beings will always sin. When Jesus enters our lives we learn to be guided by the holy Spirit. But there are still minor sins we cannot help doing every day, like taking the Lord's name in vain, cursing, coveting, thinking lustful thoughts, etc. You'd be suprised how many petty things can be considered sins. My sister thinks lampshades are sinful.

The thing is, with Jesus, he frees us from our sins and we are forgiven.
With Jesus, we can do things right. We concentrate on love, hope, faith, peace, pateince, wisdom, prudence, the fruits of the spirit rather than everything that's wrong.

As for taking up our cross, what exactly does that mean? How can we hate our own families when we are supposed to honor our mother and father as part of the commandments? I thought Christians were not supposed to hate anybody, least of all our own families, we are to be full of love for everyone, God is love and we must have love or else we do not know God. Hatred is evil and of the Devil.

By taking up the cross, are we suppose to wonder around homeless and penniless preaching the gospel to whoever picks us up while hitchhiking? THat's outrageous! If I left my parents, my guardians, I would be locked up in a mental hospital. I feel like I am my parents' slave.

Abiding · Oct 1, 2011

Red33 said:

You got a problem with what GaryMac said. I wonder what Zone thinks about this OP. Perhaps this is the kind of discipleship that Christ requires from His disciples who follow the Lord in the next step and place that He leads. Of course it's going to take mercy and grace and a great big cross to follow, but we are called to be His disciple. Do you ignore the scriptures or do you live by them...

Lk 14:26,27,33 ...26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath , he cannot be my disciple.

Those are pretty heavy duty demands to make upon His disciples, he has to hate his family, his own life and all that he has or he can't be a disciple. Can you hack it Abiding, can you be that kind of a disciple or are you going to charge our Lord Jesus Christ with being legalistic for making such demands? These demands are not practical and make no provision for the flesh nor do they accomodate for a believer to have some little reform church to settle into that has no personal cross, no fire, no outreach but just a laid back, I'll do what I want and you can do what you want and we'll call that liberty from God. Jesus had no place to lay His head but you do.

You call the OP trash, but it's conviction with a cross and you want nothing to do with it. You would rather label it with your own label of rejection then to be entreated by it. That's why you are stiff necked because you want the Christian life to be comfortable for your flesh instead of getting it crucified experientially through a personal cross that YOU must take up.

really red you now have supermindreadingmentalpowers? your 20 miles off again. I doubt you even read the dialogue. Yawn.

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