Chuck Missler

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Bladerunner

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Being from other planets... no.

But, there are principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places (Ephesians 6:12) that are manifesting in these last days to deceive the masses into believing man was either created by aliens or that aliens are gonna come and save mankind.
I don't really think I would worry about aliens from other worlds........If there are UFOs, these are Angels (satan side of course)
 
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For people who think that the resurrection happens,and then deception by way of a one world religious system,and the beast occur,what is the purpose for that,because once the resurrection happens,the rest of the world is not going to be able to dwell with God,so what is the purpose of the deception,for God would deal with them as soon as the resurrection occurs.

Blessed is he that has part in the first resurrection,for the second resurrection has no hold on them,and when the Son shall deliver up the kingdom to the Father then comes the end.

As soon as the resurrection happens,God goes against the world,and there is no purpose of allowing the world to be deceived by a one world religious system,and the beast,for they are already deceived when the resurrection happened,and are lost,for if they were in the truth they would of made it in the resurrection.

But the Bible says the saints cannot be gathered unto Christ until there is a falling away first,and the man of sin claims to be God,and then the people that followed the man of sin,the beast,will make make war against the saints,and prevail against them,and the saints shall be given in to his hands for three and one half years,and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people,then the resurrection happens,and then the wrath of God poured on them.

There is no one world religious system,and the beast,after the resurrection,but before the resurrection,and when the beast deceives all who does not love God,and goes against all who do love God,then the resurrection.

And that is because God is love,and will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him,and will give the world 7 years to have their way,and cause all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,so He can end this sin business on earth.

During the first three and one half years is when the unified religious system is in operation,and the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections,with a leader in each section,and the world can be saved during the three and one half years,and as long as the world has salvation still offered to them,then the resurrection will not happen,and the saints will remain on earth.

The ten horn kingdom fail at obtaining peace for the world,as the biggest war in history occurred in which one third of the population of the world dies,and describes nuclear weapons as the cause of the destruction,and the world is in shambles,and lost hope for peace,and governments collapse for the ten horn kingdom,one world government,failed at obtaining peace.

They turn to the man of sin,the beast,for the answer,and solution,which his agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind,but their technology and devices,can achieve peace on earth,and when the world follows him,then the unified religious system collapses,which is all religions together,with the standard format being the new age movement,and all are valid for spiritual evolution,with a false interpretation of Christianity,Islam,and Judaism,to fit that format,for they do not need the unified religious system,for the man of sin is of the new age movement,and spiritual evolution,and convinced the world that he harnessed the power of nature,and achieved power,and will share that power with all who follow him,which is what they were striving for that transcends the religion they practiced,so the unified religious system collapses,which the Bible says the ten horns shall hate the whore,and burn her with fire,and eat her flesh,and make her desolate and naked.

When they follow the beast,and take the mark of the beast,then salvation is no longer available to them,and the saints no longer need to be on the earth,but God allows them to make war with the saints,and prevail against them,and the Bible says that the beast shall destroy the mighty and holy people,for God will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him,and will let them go as far as making war with the saints for three and one half years,and then resurrect the saints that remain,and then allows them to go against Israel,and that is when God will save Israel,and put down the world.

1 Timothy 4:1-5,a false interpretation of the Bible based on the occult,which becomes so popular that is unifies the religions,which all religions are interpreted by the format of the new age movement,and the format of the unified religious system,and the time when the world will not endure the truth,but will only want to hear the Bible according to their own lusts,and be turned unto fables of the new age movement(2 Timothy 4:2-4),which this is the falling away first,when the world will not want to listen to the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts,and Christianity declines rapidly in impacting the world with the truth.

The man of sin will be of the new age movement,and will push it during the three and one half years the unified religious system is in effect,which is based on the occult,and spiritual evolution,which they turn to him after the ten horn kingdom fails at obtaining peace on earth.

The one world religious system,and beast,does not happen after the resurrection,for there is no purpose for it,for the world is already deceived,and lost,when the resurrection happens,which when the resurrection happens then God goes against the world,for salvation is not available to them,so they do not have to be deceived after the resurrection,but the world is deceived before the resurrection,unified religious system,which collapses,and then the beast,and then the resurrection,then God will go against the world.
 
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The first breath you ever breathed in....... The breath of GOD!
Good morning to all
You still haven't answered my question.

That sounds like an answer you would give if you don't know the answer.

It's ok if you don't know. I didn't know at one time. But it is important that you do know.

There are sodish people out there that think that the strongs concordance is a week tool.
That's just code for they don't know how to use it. You should use it. It is A very good tool.

Where your soul came from should be taught to new born Christians shortly after they are born. And where it goes when it leaves the body.
It really does explain the time we are living in now. And why people don't know the truth.

To be continued.
 

Bladerunner

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Good morning to all
You still haven't answered my question.

That sounds like an answer you would give if you don't know the answer.

It's ok if you don't know. I didn't know at one time. But it is important that you do know.

There are sodish people out there that think that the strongs concordance is a week tool.
That's just code for they don't know how to use it. You should use it. It is A very good tool.

Where your soul came from should be taught to new born Christians shortly after they are born. And where it goes when it leaves the body.
It really does explain the time we are living in now. And why people don't know the truth.

To be continued.


Welllllll CompanionBibleFan.... not really sure what question I missed... Thought I had answered them all. From what I am reading you are struggling to answer your own questions..

When you are BORN (a Baby), your soul comes from the Breath of GOD... Rem in Genesis all GOD had to do was Speak and it was created. BUT

in Genesis 2:7...."And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Where the Soul goes when it leaves the Body,,,,,IF the person believes in Jesus and His Gospel and nothing else His soul will go to Heaven to await the reuniting the soul with the body they left behind.

BUTIf that person is wayward in God's eyes, They will await the reunification of the soul/body at the time of 2nd resurrection (The White Throne Judgement)

Which category are you in. ASK yourself.... are you unbelieving of His words (the Bible), Are you twisting them. What about Israel,,, are you part of the church(s) that tell us God is finished with Israel and the Church is now the apple of HIS eye.

Are you a replacement theorist,,, maybe a preterist...naturalist and on and on and on........

If your answer is YES,,,wellllllll
 
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Welllllll CompanionBibleFan.... not really sure what question I missed... Thought I had answered them all. From what I am reading you are struggling to answer your own questions..

When you are BORN (a Baby), your soul comes from the Breath of GOD... Rem in Genesis all GOD had to do was Speak and it was created. BUT

in Genesis 2:7...."And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Where the Soul goes when it leaves the Body,,,,,IF the person believes in Jesus and His Gospel and nothing else His soul will go to Heaven to await the reuniting the soul with the body they left behind.

BUTIf that person is wayward in God's eyes, They will await the reunification of the soul/body at the time of 2nd resurrection (The White Throne Judgement)

Which category are you in. ASK yourself.... are you unbelieving of His words (the Bible), Are you twisting them. What about Israel,,, are you part of the church(s) that tell us God is finished with Israel and the Church is now the apple of HIS eye.

Are you a replacement theorist,,, maybe a preterist...naturalist and on and on and on........

If your answer is YES,,,wellllllll
Bladerunner
I already know the answers to my question. I am planting a seed where by you might come to know the answer to my question also. You may not believe it but that is between you and Christ. My job is to plant the seed. He will make it grow.

When you are BORN (a Baby), your soul comes from the Breath of GOD... Rem in Genesis all GOD had to do was Speak and it was created.

1st if i may point out that this little phrase you so cleverly typed. Can lead a person into a couple of directions. That seems to be confusion to me and our Father doesn't teach confusion. When i read this the first time. it suggested to me that we are created as we go along. Example : all souls born in 2018 don't come in to existence until they are born in 2018.

But then i thought surely he wasn't suggesting that. So i asked some basic questions to which you should have known the answers to . Just to make sure i didn't misunderstand. Then you gave some answer that only Hank Hanegraaff would understand. Not putting him down. If he is of our father Jesus Christ who can be against him.

Is it so hard to understand from our fathers word that the angels were created in the begging and our flesh bodies were created 7000 years and the adamic race 5000 years ago. It should be really simple that our soul's come from the angels. it is given for all angels to pass through this earth age through the womb of women being born of water from up above. The angel's Spirit had to die in first world age and be born in to this to be born into the second. It is what the bible refers to as being born spiritually Dead.

Jas_2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

And the only way for the spirit to overcome sin is to accept Jesus Christ as the only way to God and To Repent and Be Baptiste. I Made that stand out to Give the understanding that salvation is not complete until after Baptism.

it shouldn't be that unconscionable. With Christ as our example. Wasn't Melchizedek the very presents of God in spirit form.

Heb 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God,
Then Put his Very soul into Mary through Emasculate conception. Then was born in the flesh as Jesus Christ who then died in the flesh so we who accept him may be with him in the Third Heaven after Judgement day.

Saying Of the Day ( This war between God and Lucifer is not about who gets to rule this one. But who gets to build the next one. And we as Christians All ready knows who wins. )

Now you already ready know there are some who don't get to take part in the New Jerusalem that comes after judgment day. They are talked about in the book of jude and Enoch and various other books that escape my memory for now. Only one has been convicted, judged and sentenced. But punishment has not been carried out yet. The others where rounded up and put in the pit. and reserved for the end times. There were other influxes, But none like the first. Now this is where conspiracy stuff comes in. You have been going on about that for 38 Chapters. ( If the lord shows this to you please don't take offence to that because i have been there my self.) They can't take part in it because they chose not to come to this earth through women.

There were some who thought they could trick Gods plan and came through the Geber the hybrids of the fallen Angels. There souls where not allowed to return to heaven. There punishment was to roam the earth until the lord returns. And thats where the demons come from.They float around to see who they can posses. In there is another good study that is very interesting. But just know this, they are very careful who they jump into, There is a process they follow. and they can not harm Gods elect. They can attack everything around Gods elect but they can't touch them. But i digress. Do a good study of Cain and his descendants the Kenite's. Because they are of his father that old dragon the devil and the serpent.

Joh_3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


I pray that the Lord Jesus Christ will make this Seed grow. All i can do is plant it. And it has just been planted. May the living waters make it grow.

Peace and love be with you in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
 

presidente

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Good morning to all
You still haven't answered my question.

That sounds like an answer you would give if you don't know the answer.

It's ok if you don't know. I didn't know at one time. But it is important that you do know.

There are sodish people out there that think that the strongs concordance is a week tool.
I made the comment about the Strong's concordance, because I was commenting on Murray who said Strong's is for the strong and Young's is for the young. Yet Murray abused that glossary at the end of the concordance on the tape I listened to, taking one word out of the list of 'glosses' and arguing for something bizarre out of it, arguing that Eve had sex with the serpent. It is possible to convince people who don't know Greek of Hebrew of all kinds of weird things using the Strong's concordance glossary if they don't understand how it is supposed to be used and they don't know how to fact-check you using other resources. Murray's Kenite teaching did not stand up to fact-checking.

If you want to study words, the Strong's is good to start, but you can also look up language dictionaries for more depth.

I've never heard of sodish, btw.
 

Bladerunner

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Bladerunner
I already know the answers to my question. I am planting a seed where by you might come to know the answer to my question also. You may not believe it but that is between you and Christ. My job is to plant the seed. He will make it grow.

When you are BORN (a Baby), your soul comes from the Breath of GOD... Rem in Genesis all GOD had to do was Speak and it was created.

1st if i may point out that this little phrase you so cleverly typed. Can lead a person into a couple of directions. That seems to be confusion to me and our Father doesn't teach confusion. When i read this the first time. it suggested to me that we are created as we go along. Example : all souls born in 2018 don't come in to existence until they are born in 2018.

But then i thought surely he wasn't suggesting that. So i asked some basic questions to which you should have known the answers to . Just to make sure i didn't misunderstand. Then you gave some answer that only Hank Hanegraaff would understand. Not putting him down. If he is of our father Jesus Christ who can be against him.

Is it so hard to understand from our fathers word that the angels were created in the begging and our flesh bodies were created 7000 years and the adamic race 5000 years ago. It should be really simple that our soul's come from the angels. it is given for all angels to pass through this earth age through the womb of women being born of water from up above. The angel's Spirit had to die in first world age and be born in to this to be born into the second. It is what the bible refers to as being born spiritually Dead.

Jas_2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

And the only way for the spirit to overcome sin is to accept Jesus Christ as the only way to God and To Repent and Be Baptiste. I Made that stand out to Give the understanding that salvation is not complete until after Baptism.

it shouldn't be that unconscionable. With Christ as our example. Wasn't Melchizedek the very presents of God in spirit form.

Heb 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God,
Then Put his Very soul into Mary through Emasculate conception. Then was born in the flesh as Jesus Christ who then died in the flesh so we who accept him may be with him in the Third Heaven after Judgement day.

Saying Of the Day ( This war between God and Lucifer is not about who gets to rule this one. But who gets to build the next one. And we as Christians All ready knows who wins. )

Now you already ready know there are some who don't get to take part in the New Jerusalem that comes after judgment day. They are talked about in the book of jude and Enoch and various other books that escape my memory for now. Only one has been convicted, judged and sentenced. But punishment has not been carried out yet. The others where rounded up and put in the pit. and reserved for the end times. There were other influxes, But none like the first. Now this is where conspiracy stuff comes in. You have been going on about that for 38 Chapters. ( If the lord shows this to you please don't take offence to that because i have been there my self.) They can't take part in it because they chose not to come to this earth through women.

There were some who thought they could trick Gods plan and came through the Geber the hybrids of the fallen Angels. There souls where not allowed to return to heaven. There punishment was to roam the earth until the lord returns. And thats where the demons come from.They float around to see who they can posses. In there is another good study that is very interesting. But just know this, they are very careful who they jump into, There is a process they follow. and they can not harm Gods elect. They can attack everything around Gods elect but they can't touch them. But i digress. Do a good study of Cain and his descendants the Kenite's. Because they are of his father that old dragon the devil and the serpent.

Joh_3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


I pray that the Lord Jesus Christ will make this Seed grow. All i can do is plant it. And it has just been planted. May the living waters make it grow.

Peace and love be with you in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

WOW........Sometimes you got to know when to walk away and on this one, I am walking away. ...WOW what a statement????
 
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News flash! The bible does not say that giants were the result of human mothers and angel fathers, that idea came from the book of Enoch and the book of Enoch has strange things in it and was probably not written by Enoch. The offspring of angels and humans were men of great ability(not giants). The giants were on the earth before and after the flood and they came from other giants, not angels. Sigh! No one will pay attention to the facts in this case because the idea of humans having giants from angels is just too appealing. It is not even logical because a normal size woman could never give birth to a baby from a giant angel.
 

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News flash! The bible does not say that giants were the result of human mothers and angel fathers, that idea came from the book of Enoch and the book of Enoch has strange things in it and was probably not written by Enoch. The offspring of angels and humans were men of great ability(not giants). The giants were on the earth before and after the flood and they came from other giants, not angels. Sigh! No one will pay attention to the facts in this case because the idea of humans having giants from angels is just too appealing. It is not even logical because a normal size woman could never give birth to a baby from a giant angel.
Not only that but Genesis start with the increase of man and God's judgement to come on them. The book of Enoch in 10:13 speak of the destruction of the children of fornication and the children of the watchers, but men is exempt form the punishment, that's not Genesis 6. In 10:12 it says to account the sin to azazyel, that's not Biblical, it's among the reasons the Book of Enoch was not included in the Canon of Scripture.

Missler says in the video that, Kiel and Delitzsch OT commentary teaches the sons of God are angels here's what's in the commentary "Why then should the fact that the sons of God are distinguished from the daughters of men prove that the former could not be men? There is not force enough in these two objections to compel us to adopt the conclusion that the sons of God were angels."

He did also say that K & D are the authority on the OT and he misquotes them, why?
 

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"The giants before the flood were completely destroyed by God in the flood so the giants after the flood could not have come from them."


look to your scripture...Noah, his Wife and Sons were "perfect" according to GOD........Where the sons get their wives from??????????? LIGHT COMING ON????????

Look also to the Genealogy NOAH which will tell you where the Giants came from...

Let quickly add another point...The Giants are one reason why God was displeased but sin of all kinds, Chimeras, Beastiality, etc. was happening before the flood. which is why when they crossed into the 'Promised Land' they killed everything,, Man, woman, child, animals,,,,anything living.....Yes, it was ans is today happening after the FLOOD.
Hi Blade, I should give you an reply why I dont believe in this teachings from Chuck Missler. Please visit the following web page: Herescope: Alien Encounters
Chuck Missler is uesing non biblical sources to build up his theory and sell it as truth. For me this sounds: making money and decive the followers of christ! The much where he is teaching the truth and People are blessed through his teachings are honorabel. But through his teachings of ancient history and his theory about the nephilim he leads people on a wrong way!
 
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Chuck Missler isan ex CIA think tank guy. That has come up with some very un-bibical doctrines. He used to be part of the Calvary Chapel movement, but his teachings on the sons of God in Genesis 6 being ET's that had sex with the daughters of men and how the Bible taught about UFO's. Didn't set well with Chuck Smith, so he move on from there. The last time I seen him he was on the history channel as part of the Ancient Alien theory, other wise know as the "Cult of the Aliens". The basic teaching of these guy once you dig into their beliefs.

That Aliens came to earth in search of gold because the ozone layer in the universe had a whole in it and gold was needed to fix it. When they came down to earth, man was still a neanderthal just this side of being monkeys. So these aliens place some of their DNA in man to make him more intelligent so they could be the drones working the gold mines for them. Once they placed the DNA in man, he became modern and white. It's very racist at it core.

When I first started listening to Chuck Missler he had some good teachings on the Messiah and the prophecy about him. One thing you'll find out fast about Chuck, is once you've heard a few teachings he starts repeating himself. Is he still in Idaho tater country?
You need to get your facts straight
 
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I have listened to Missler some, he is very articulate and obviously intelligent, however I think he believes that he can take the bible and prove that there is a pre tribulation rapture of the church. I don't care if it is Chuck Missler, Charles Stanley, or David Jeremiah, if they think that they can produce a pre tribulation rapture of the church when the word of God contains no pre tribulation rapture of the church, then they cannot be all that connected to God.
Just out of curiosity....Are you one of those that confuses the rapture with the second coming? It looks like it
 

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You need to get your facts straight
You are right. I got Chuck mixed up with someone else, but there is no way to delete a post after five minutes. The sad part is I did not even realize that I posted this in this thread. You got me I posted the wrong information about Chuck. Thanks for bringing it to my attention so it can be corrected, thank you.

I have no problem admitting I am wrong when I am wrong, just as I said if someone can follow the context of the storyline and show contextually fallen angels in Genesis 6:2, 4, I will happily repent, I have no problem with that.
 
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You are right. I got Chuck mixed up with someone else, but there is no way to delete a post after five minutes. The sad part is I did not even realize that I posted this in this thread. You got me I posted the wrong information about Chuck. Thanks for bringing it to my attention so it can be corrected, thank you.

I have no problem admitting I am wrong when I am wrong, just as I said if someone can follow the context of the storyline and show contextually fallen angels in Genesis 6:2, 4, I will happily repent, I have no problem with that.
It happens...Mistakes only happen when you are trying to do something. Notice that? LOL
 

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It happens...Mistakes only happen when you are trying to do something. Notice that? LOL
Again my brother, thank you for bringing this up. One thing I do not like doing id posting false information. I might post something I don't fully understand because it has not been presented to me or I just have not got that far and what I post is where I'm at, as much as I would like to, I do not know every thing and never will, until that day when I will know as I am known, no longer looking into a mirror dimly, but what I know in part I will fully know, what a wonderful day that will be and we will not get His coming and His gathering mixed up, we will be gathered, then when He comes we will come with Him. :D The Blessed Hope.
 
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I don't really think I would worry about aliens from other worlds........If there are UFOs, these are Angels (satan side of course)
I believe the world at large will meet these 'aliens' quite soon as a major part of the Great Deception that is coming on the Earth. This deception will drag many many of the weaker Christians into it. Especially since the 'Falling Away' has apparently begun.
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

How has it begun? There is already a dearth of the Word...Christians by the thousands who do not know what the Word says. The same who fight against the truth of the Word. Christians by the thousands who would walk as the World rather than walk in LOVE.. )I capitalize the word LOVE here to, at least symbolically, place it above puny human love). The word apostasy means 'a total desertion of or departure from one's religion, principles, party, cause, etc' If you doubt that its begun....look around. But do it honestly.. Don't hide from what you see