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C
I'm not really sure. Because wasn't circumcision supposed to be a sign of the covenant? And a sign that looks as if there is no sign isn't such a good sign... I have wondered in the past if Michelangelo's David may have been because Michelangelo knew about the previous biblical circumcision thing, but have come to the conclusion that the David statue is simply uncircumcised.
C
I found an interesting site that says the Hebrew words for circumcision were muwl and namal, which are words for clipped (like one clips his/her fingernails), but not totally removed/destroyed.
What the Bible Really Says About Routine Infant Circumcision
If this site is right, I think today's circumcision is certainly not the same as that in the bible, but I don't know Hebrew, so I guess its easier to be fooled with respect to Hebrew words and their meanings.
What the Bible Really Says About Routine Infant Circumcision
If this site is right, I think today's circumcision is certainly not the same as that in the bible, but I don't know Hebrew, so I guess its easier to be fooled with respect to Hebrew words and their meanings.
Wanted to bring topic back up to share something.
My wife gave birth to our 3rd son (5th child) 2 weeks ago, praise God. We had him circumcised on the 8th day (Lev. 12:3) in our home by a Jewish Rabbi, or Moel. We had our 2nd son circumcised when he was 8 days old by a pediatrician and the procedure took around 15 minutes and was terrible and painful to watch. (I'm still glad we circumcised him, I just wish it had happened differently.)
The Moel did the whole thing in 1 minute, (1 minute!) with as minimal pain as a circumcision can have. As soon as the Rabbi picked my son up he stopped crying and has only cried when we changed his bandage.
Spiritual lesson? As important as physical circumcision is, circumcision of the heart is far more important. When our hearts have to be circumcised by events and situations from the "world," (i.e. pediatrician) it can be long and painful, albeit still effective.
When we willingly allow God to be the one to circumcise our hearts (The Moel is a picture of that,) it can be done so much more quickly, easily and effectively (albeit still painful.)
Obviously, there are MANY spiritual differences and disagreements we have with the Moel, but the whole procedure was so much more peaceful and meaningful than with my other boys.
My wife gave birth to our 3rd son (5th child) 2 weeks ago, praise God. We had him circumcised on the 8th day (Lev. 12:3) in our home by a Jewish Rabbi, or Moel. We had our 2nd son circumcised when he was 8 days old by a pediatrician and the procedure took around 15 minutes and was terrible and painful to watch. (I'm still glad we circumcised him, I just wish it had happened differently.)
The Moel did the whole thing in 1 minute, (1 minute!) with as minimal pain as a circumcision can have. As soon as the Rabbi picked my son up he stopped crying and has only cried when we changed his bandage.
Spiritual lesson? As important as physical circumcision is, circumcision of the heart is far more important. When our hearts have to be circumcised by events and situations from the "world," (i.e. pediatrician) it can be long and painful, albeit still effective.
When we willingly allow God to be the one to circumcise our hearts (The Moel is a picture of that,) it can be done so much more quickly, easily and effectively (albeit still painful.)
Obviously, there are MANY spiritual differences and disagreements we have with the Moel, but the whole procedure was so much more peaceful and meaningful than with my other boys.
T
Neither of my two sons is circumcised. They were born before I was reborn (lol). The doctors wanted me to sign a paper to do so, but I refused. They said the procedure assisted with hygiene and avoided infection.... but do we cut off our children's ears because they are hard to wash and could get infected? No, it wasn't logical. Besides, my heart broke when they cried from washing their hair, how could I put them through THAT?! I'm glad I abstained from it because now as a Christian, having read the bible, I know that God does not require it of the gentiles - Paul made that clear in one of his letters.
J
If ears had ugly, wrinkled foreskin that impeded function, harboured disease and grossed out the opposite gender, I'm sure we would practice circumcising the foreskin off our ears also.
I knew an online Christian lady with 4 sons, who didn't intend to circumcise them, against the advice of her obstetrician. Several years later, the older boy got some sort of disease (due to the uncircumcision), and she had to get them all done. She later admitted to the doctor who had previously advised her to circumcise, that her advice had been right all along, and she could have saved her sons considerable pain had she followed her advice when they were infants.
I knew an online Christian lady with 4 sons, who didn't intend to circumcise them, against the advice of her obstetrician. Several years later, the older boy got some sort of disease (due to the uncircumcision), and she had to get them all done. She later admitted to the doctor who had previously advised her to circumcise, that her advice had been right all along, and she could have saved her sons considerable pain had she followed her advice when they were infants.
J
I have only heard of a mole that is an animal, not a moel who is a Jewish Rabbi.
Isn't there a danger by having circumcision done by a Jewish Rabbi that your son will grow up and marry a Jew, or even become one? At least if done for medical reasons (not by a moel) or on a different day, there wouldn't be the danger of appearing to try to keep the law (and risk being enslaved by it).
Isn't there a danger by having circumcision done by a Jewish Rabbi that your son will grow up and marry a Jew, or even become one? At least if done for medical reasons (not by a moel) or on a different day, there wouldn't be the danger of appearing to try to keep the law (and risk being enslaved by it).