Coming revival?

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I don't remember if hubby heard it or read it, but he tells of an evangelist, who spent many years in Africa, only to have God call him to the Bible Belt. He found his time in Africa much more exhilarating. The people in Africa don't automatically assume they are Christians, so they'll listen. Most in the Bible Belt think they are by inheritance, so they don't.

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Miri said:

There has been a quiet pleasently spreading revival in my city for a number of
years.

Several new churches have sprung up in recent years, loads! Proper new ones, not just
replacements.

A large number of existing churches seem to be experiencing a new newness, dont
know what else to call it. Bulletin Boards which use to advertise jumble sales, now
advertise the times of services and display bible verses.

The local Council seem more favourable towards churches.
The benefits office, social services and other official departments now actively
divert needed people to church organisations and charities.

Revival comes in many forms, the slow burn steady type is probably more noteworthy
than a quick fizzle.

Oh, I hope for another Welch Revival, but starting in the east this time!

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Miri said:

Bible Belt -- a section of the US that is more prone to established Christian norms/beliefs. Mostly the South, but wanders over to the west, which is why it's a belt, and not sandals or a hat. (Maine is probably our hat and Florida is probably our sandal. I guess that makes Texas our other foot. lol)

stonesoffire · May 20, 2017

It's not called "revival" but the "awakening". Comes from the judgement scriptures where it says it begins at the house of God.

This is what the USA is experiencing now...the move is a city move. Began with the God of our city and the gathering that Lou (forgot last name) had.

Actually the call first was to pray and repent, turn back to God.

I see it. Miri posted it...why not you all? Ask yourselves...

Chris1975 · May 20, 2017

Concerning the term "awakening", I found the following teaching quite interesting in light of this term being used in the 'latest' move of the church....

[video=youtube;BFv0JN94Bwo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFv0JN94Bwo[/video]

Miri · May 20, 2017

stonesoffire said:

Oh I haven't given it much thought but yes, you are right, it has
to start with Gods people. The following verses just came to mind,
they might be considered a bit harsh but there is some truth in them.

2 Chronicles 7:14 NKJV
[14] if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves,
and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will
hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

Challenging words.

Rockrz · May 20, 2017

That's a misguided comment to someone asking an honest question

Nothing in this person's question indicates they are longing for false teaching so your comment is not applicable.

Try again...

stonesoffire · May 20, 2017

Chris1975 said:

I'm not watching the video. Just keep in mind...when God does something...there is always a deception to rise to cause confusion.

Kind of like the 'birds' lodging in the branches of the tree parable.

Blain · May 20, 2017

Rockrz said:

Yes ty, I was very confused about why he commented like that

Miri · May 20, 2017

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Keep going and you will soon have the whole armour of God, cool

Blain · May 20, 2017

Everyone you have all been very helpful( well most of you) I think a great awakening is much more likely than a massive earth shattering revival, but I wonder what the revivals that are legit are like? I would have liked to seen that

Miri · May 20, 2017

My church was founded during a revival.

Here is a very brief summary.

It was in 1910 that Thomas Henry Jewitt became the pastor of Mount
Tabor Mission. At that time the church was in Mount Tabor Place
in Burmontofts the city. The church grew steadily and in 1921 moved
to Bickerdyke Street where it became known as Mount Tabor
Pentecostal Church.

In 1927, Pastor Jewitt invited the evangelist George Jeffries to conduct
a two week mission. This was to be a defining time in the life of the church.
The Salem Central Hall was booked for two weeks where meetings were
held every afternoon and evening; the crowds coming to the meetings
were so big that many had to be turned away!

More than 2000 people responded to the gospel during this fortnight.
The church became so large that they could no longer meet in Bickerdyke
Street. For the next four years from 1927 to 1931 they rented different
buildings in the city including the Albert Hall in Cookridge Street,
(now the Carriageworks Theatre. On Saturday the 30th May 1931
the new church in Bridge Street was officially opened. In 1940
Pastor Jewitt passed away having served the church for 30 years.

In more recent years, we have planted a daughter church in Boston
Spa and later in Chandigarh in Northern India. As the church continued
to grow so the need for a new space became very clear. After a long
period of prayer and waiting God graciously provided our current site
in Rider Street; back in Burmantofts where our roots lay.

We are amazed
by His faithfulness and give Him the glory for all he has done.

---

The full story (there are only a few copies left of the original book about this)
includes many testimonies of healing during the
two week evangelism crusade and that the crime rate dropped
after as people continued to be saved and the gospel spread
after the crusade.

The local church basically spent many hours in prayer and they
decided to book Salem Central Hall in faith and invite this famous
preacher, even though they had little money to pay for him or the
building they booked. God answered their faithfulness and the

place was packed to the rafters.

It started with a very small local church and their faithful
prayers. Of course this was all a bit before my time.

samuel23 · May 20, 2017

While we are on the subject of deception, I don't want to offend anyone who might be in that persuasion, but I am convinced through much study and knowledge of the bible that the Pentecostal movement that started around 1906 and has spread throughout the church, IS NOT OF GOD. There are a lot of Christians in that movement, however I do not believe the beginning of this movement is of God nor do I believe the promotion of that movement today is of God.

Blain · May 20, 2017

samuel23 said:

I wouldn't be able to say if the one around 1906 was legit or not but I wouldn't put God in a box either, I am constantly begging God to ignite his burning fire in the church again and to once again sow the seed of real love in the hearts of his church and to place a fiery passion and deep love and devotion for him and all other people. I wouldn't ask him this if I didn't think it was possible.

I don't know if that is called a revival but it is my hearts deepest desire that this happens because so many (Christians) have forgotten what love really is and have forgotten what it really means to be a Christian. In fact you would be amazed at how even the people at the church I sometimes frequent are shocked by the love and the passion I show for God as if such a thing is so rarely seen that it's shocking and it saddens me.

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Blain said:

I remember some antidotes from some earlier revivals.

The first American Revival -- Jonathon Edwards was monotony and had a high squeaky unpleasant voice. Read one of his decidedly encouraging messages. BUT the results were amazing. He was a preacher in a Puritan colony. The church was your average small-town church in the New England area that you can still find today. Not enough room in the church, so people gathered around outside too, and someone would here a sentence he said at the church door and shout it to the people gathered outside. His sermons were 6 hours long. I'm not saying the service was six hours long. Just the sermon part of the service was 6 hours long. The only time anyone left was at about noon, and only then, because everyone picnicked outside before going back to hearing the rest.

And it changed people to God's good.

The Welch Revival -- so massive the entire country changed. Wales is known for being a mining country. The men who worked the minds were tough and salty in their speech -- at work, at the pub after work, and when they came home. The pubs lost a lot of their business. (Men still drank, but they stopeed getting drunk.)

A 14 year old boy went to the mines for his first day of work. Now, that was the age most men started to work and the place most men in his village did work. But he came home from his first day and asked his mother what a word meant. It was a curse word. The first time he ever heard one. How old were you before you started using them? Me? About first grade. (Might have been kindergarten, but I remember being able to use the words correctly in first grade.) He never heard one before.

That revival saw a significant change in society. Sadly, it only lasted about two years.

The Jesus Movement -- Can you imagine seeing a cover on a major secular magazine talking about Jesus in this country? Yeah, that hasn't changed since I was a little girl. I was a teen when this came out. Shocked me to no end. Still does!

For a brief moment Christians weren't the freaky ones. We were mainstream. We were listened to and accepted...

and then everything went back to "normal."

To me it's not much different than now. There is the visible church and the invisible church. The visible church is what everyone thinks are "The Christians." The invisible church are the ones who really are Christians.

Miri · May 20, 2017

Blain said:

Some people think church is a building, it's not it's the people of God.
Instead of us putting on church when we walk into a church building, we
should carry church with us wherever we go (i.e. Jesus).

Good thread Blain.

Blain · May 20, 2017

Miri said:

Exactly, like I always say you can go to church every Sunday and Wednseday you can pray all the time you can serve and help others and you can know the bible like the back of your hand but that doesn't make you a Christian. there is a vast difference between a Christian by title and a Christian by heart( I bet people are sick of me saying that XD)

Laish · May 20, 2017

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Oh dear I hate to think what part Arizona is .
Blessings
Bill

valiant · May 20, 2017

True revival is when God comes down and makes His presence 'felt'. Christians in large numbers are deeply convinced of sin and break down in repentance and confession. People are found seeking God in the most unlikely places. Many churches find their whole outlook is changed, and meetings go on for hours on end as people are confessing their sins, or praising God. Much of the activity is spontaneous as the Spirit does His work. The focus is on God not a preacher.

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Blain said:

The Azusa St. Revival was the revival before the Jesus Movement. Was it real? Yeah. They were really big on healing, and many were healed. (Many, many because it was huge.) But did it have a lasting effect? In the same way as the Jesus Movement. For the ones who came running to the Lord, it was life-changing. More than that since there is so much after this life is over. But for others, it was an experience.

There is a problem with revivals though. The Church (invisibles) aren't ready. No one bothers to figure out what to do with the masses when they come. And the masses that do come are the down-trodden/riff-raff/ain't like us.

Hubby was part of the beginning of the Jesus Movement. No, he didn't start it. He was the beginning of those-who-came. He quickly found two evangelists doing massive things in the streets of Philly. (They preached to the street-people, hookers, and drug addicts, and all those people believed.) Great at evangelizing, but they royally sucked on teaching. All they knew was how to evangelize. And he joined in and did the same thing. (If you ever read my story about the missionary he knew who started believing in tongues when he was in Africa because he witnessed it, he was one of those two evangelists years later and by then trained. lol)

So hubby found a AoG near him and his wife. (Okay, so he was future-hubby back then, and I was a teen girl in Virginia. lol) Now he was socially acceptable. Sure he smoked pot and looked like a hippie, but at least he was a mechanic, so he was middle-class -- what the church expected.

What came quickly after him were the street-people, hippies, pimps, and prostitutes. They were changed. They just didn't know how to change yet, so needed to learn. Such a huge influx of people, and the church was split. Who wants pimps, prostitutes and addicts filling their pews? The pastor needed a hand. Six months after hubby was converted, he became the youth pastor. NOT good!

The church wasn't prepared, so many were lost before they could be helped.

I see what happens on this site. The church isn't prepared still.

Most of the ones who came through the Jesus Movement now vaguely remember that as "Yeah, I was a Christian at one time." The vast majority are that.

Maybe it's time to think about what happens if there is a revival.

Each revival loses a little bit more of the real gospel, and replaces it with a groovy experience.

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