Coming revival?

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Blain

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The Azusa St. Revival was the revival before the Jesus Movement. Was it real? Yeah. They were really big on healing, and many were healed. (Many, many because it was huge.) But did it have a lasting effect? In the same way as the Jesus Movement. For the ones who came running to the Lord, it was life-changing. More than that since there is so much after this life is over. But for others, it was an experience.

There is a problem with revivals though. The Church (invisibles) aren't ready. No one bothers to figure out what to do with the masses when they come. And the masses that do come are the down-trodden/riff-raff/ain't like us.

Hubby was part of the beginning of the Jesus Movement. No, he didn't start it. He was the beginning of those-who-came. He quickly found two evangelists doing massive things in the streets of Philly. (They preached to the street-people, hookers, and drug addicts, and all those people believed.) Great at evangelizing, but they royally sucked on teaching. All they knew was how to evangelize. And he joined in and did the same thing. (If you ever read my story about the missionary he knew who started believing in tongues when he was in Africa because he witnessed it, he was one of those two evangelists years later and by then trained. lol)

So hubby found a AoG near him and his wife. (Okay, so he was future-hubby back then, and I was a teen girl in Virginia. lol) Now he was socially acceptable. Sure he smoked pot and looked like a hippie, but at least he was a mechanic, so he was middle-class -- what the church expected.

What came quickly after him were the street-people, hippies, pimps, and prostitutes. They were changed. They just didn't know how to change yet, so needed to learn. Such a huge influx of people, and the church was split. Who wants pimps, prostitutes and addicts filling their pews? The pastor needed a hand. Six months after hubby was converted, he became the youth pastor. NOT good!

The church wasn't prepared, so many were lost before they could be helped.

I see what happens on this site. The church isn't prepared still.

Most of the ones who came through the Jesus Movement now vaguely remember that as "Yeah, I was a Christian at one time." The vast majority are that.

Maybe it's time to think about what happens if there is a revival.

Each revival loses a little bit more of the real gospel, and replaces it with a groovy experience.
Your story reminds me of the parable of the farmer who was sowing seeds and some fell on good soil and some fell on rocky soil.
I agree the church is not ready, with so much attacking and mocking and people proclaiming the (truth) and then getting upset if people disagree with them and all the war threads here how can the church be ready? People care more about being right than actually learning and care more about their truth not God's truth
 
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I don't feel a spirit of love in this place, do you?

Your story reminds me of the parable of the farmer who was sowing seeds and some fell on good soil and some fell on rocky soil.
I agree the church is not ready, with so much attacking and mocking and people proclaiming the (truth) and then getting upset if people disagree with them and all the war threads here how can the church be ready? People care more about being right than actually learning and care more about their truth not God's truth
 

Blain

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I don't feel a spirit of love in this place, do you?
The light shines brightest in the darkness. It is specifically because there is such a lack of love in both this place and the world that his love and his heart is needed to be shining the most. True love can be seen far easier in a place where there is none. The bible discussion forum is like a dry waste land where nothing good can grow and only thorns and scorpions exist on the land and buzzard and dry hot air exist in the skies, his heart and his love is the rain this land needs to grow and to flourish a field of green.
 

AllenW

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That's a misguided comment to someone asking an honest question

Nothing in this person's question indicates they are longing for false teaching so your comment is not applicable.

Try again...
That's not true.
You misunderstand his needs, just as you misunderstand your own.
 

AllenW

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Your story reminds me of the parable of the farmer who was sowing seeds and some fell on good soil and some fell on rocky soil.
I agree the church is not ready, with so much attacking and mocking and people proclaiming the (truth) and then getting upset if people disagree with them and all the war threads here how can the church be ready? People care more about being right than actually learning and care more about their truth not God's truth
You are describing yourself here and you don't realize it.
Now you will wait for someone to agree with you so you can cast aside what I say without giving it any thought.
 
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I keep hearing about some kind of massive revival coming soon, I see it on cc and I hear my friends talking about it and even at the church I visited wednesday.
For those who believe there is a coming revival of some kind what kind of revival are you expecting and what evidence do you have of this?
Stop waiting for a revival and go be a revival.
 
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the Pentecostal movement that started around 1906 and has spread throughout the church, IS NOT OF GOD
Are you talking about all those folks getting healed and set free from sin and got all excited about the Lord and went around telling everyone about Jesus???

Yeah, God would be behind something like that and satan would oppose it.

Now that does not mean satan isn't trying to inject garbage in to full gospel circles to bring them down to being asleep like probably there church you go to... where they believe God doesn't move anymore as that was something that passed away when the last Apostle died... er, whatever it is you believe to make you reject what God is doing amongst His people.




I don't feel a spirit of love in this place, do you?
You mean like the time Jesus wasn't walking in Love and turned over the money changers tables in the church house???

Some foks apparently believe this cause they sure have a problem when someone repeats teachings from God's Word.

Correction is part of walking in Love ya know...




You misunderstand his needs, just as you misunderstand your own.
Blah, blah, blah... I'm sorry, did you say something???

Before you accuse a fella of having itching ears, let them at least say something like osteen or mr prince is their favorite preacher.




Now you will wait for someone to agree with you so you can cast aside what I say without giving it any thought.
Too late... we already doing that...
 
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Hey Rock: I was in Pentecostalism for years and can remember defending it, it took the Lord some time to get my attention and REALLY look at the Pentecostal movement. I wanted to believe that God was really moving in those meetings, however when I look back I see a lot of folks being led around by false spirits. Hey, I see myself being manipulated by spirits not of God. All I am saying is, if you want to stay in Pentecostalism then walk carefully for there are many deceiving spirits in that movement.
 

Blain

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You are describing yourself here and you don't realize it.
Now you will wait for someone to agree with you so you can cast aside what I say without giving it any thought.
Do not assume you know my heart, I was not upset with you in your responses and I neither mocked or attacked you and this isn't about me being right it was a question I needed help with. Whether someone on here agrees with me or not doesn't matter like I said before to you I seek the truth.
 

Blain

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Stop waiting for a revival and go be a revival.
? I'm not waiting for a revival I was asking about this great revival I keep hearing about and what scriptural proof of it being real
 
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? I'm not waiting for a revival I was asking about this great revival I keep hearing about and what scriptural proof of it being real
Yeah they have been talking about it and doing anything about it for decades.
 
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if you want to stay in Pentecostalism then walk carefully for there are many deceiving spirits in that movement
First off, I'm a born again child of the most high God thru Jesus Christ, so I go by God's Word and I do not belong to any movement.

I hear some claiming God does not fill people with the Holy Ghost anymore, God does not heal anymore, God wants you broke, God wants you sick, God don't care about us personally, God don't deliver people out of sin anymore, etc, etc... and those are all lies of the devil and are not taught in God's Word without some major scripture twisting to make it sounds like God is mean and He's out to get folks rather than desiring people to be saved and walk with Him.

So, I'll pass on the cessation thing, and yes there is all kinds of deception going on in these last days which God warned us about in His Word... many do not even know of any warnings, much less pay attention to them.




I see myself being manipulated by spirits not of God
This should not be...

Jesus said these signs shall follow them that believe... in His Name they will cast out devils.

You should do what Jesus did... take the Word of God and slap the devil around with It... he'll leave.

And when he returns, beat him some more with God's Word... in fact, devils in your area ought to be able to count on one thing: When they come to your house to mess with you and your family... they can expect their backside to get a good beating with the Word of the Living God!
 
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Your story reminds me of the parable of the farmer who was sowing seeds and some fell on good soil and some fell on rocky soil.
I agree the church is not ready, with so much attacking and mocking and people proclaiming the (truth) and then getting upset if people disagree with them and all the war threads here how can the church be ready? People care more about being right than actually learning and care more about their truth not God's truth
Hey, attacking would be an improvement. At least there is engagement. lol

Nah, that's not it. Look what the arguments are about. Eschatology Nephilims, tongue, grace or law, Calvinism and Arminianism, and this generation shall pass away. This isn't even milk for babes. It's cotton candy! It's not about God, it's about "only I know and y'all need to learn this unadulterated JUNK from me."

To be worthwhile, we need to know the Bible. Hubby came at it as if the Bible were ammunition to prove God doesn't exist. Three weeks who argued with Carol, and each and ever time, sh could go to chapter and verse to answer.

Can you do that for 3 hours a night for three weeks, or is your knowledge going for are Catholics Christians?
What does this crap say, if someone to the Lord came here? "Oh it's not so much about learning what God wants as it is about playing like we care."
 
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You are describing yourself here and you don't realize it.
Now you will wait for someone to agree with you so you can cast aside what I say without giving it any thought.
I hope so, because what you said wasn't worth the effort of thinking.
 
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Miri

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I don't feel a spirit of love in this place, do you?

There is love and care in this place, it's just that the treads containing it,
dont get read. It's far more exciting to read through the big punch up and
argument threads. The right sort of posts and threads are there if you
seek them out and ignore the others. :)
 

AllenW

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Do not assume you know my heart, I was not upset with you in your responses and I neither mocked or attacked you and this isn't about me being right it was a question I needed help with. Whether someone on here agrees with me or not doesn't matter like I said before to you I seek the truth.
The revival you are describing is sensationalism.
Sensationalism is physical.
The revival you say you seek is spiritual.
You won't see it.
It will be within you and you will be part of it or it will pass you by.
 

valiant

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The revival you are describing is sensationalism.
Sensationalism is physical.
If you call the Welsh Revival and the Hebrides Revival sensationalism you tell us more about yourself than about them.
 

Blain

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The revival you are describing is sensationalism.
Sensationalism is physical.
The revival you say you seek is spiritual.
You won't see it.
It will be within you and you will be part of it or it will pass you by.
Again you appear to misunderstand me, When I say I seek the truth I am not saying I am seeking a revival I am seeking the truth of the matter I posted. However, I have constantly asked God set his church ablaze once more and to remind us all what love really is and what it means to really be Christians, the lack of love and the lack of understanding of what and who we are to be is evident even to the non believers of this world so perhaps in a sense i am looking for a revival but one that is within the heart of his church