Confused got a couple questions

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Seriously, how old are you? 15, or some other age?

you just got done calling the God we serve and worship a "So Called God" and you for some reason in your mind don't see that as hostile. This tells me that you are either very immature (young) or you are atheist on a Christian website to cause strife. You claim to be a Christian in profile, but your words are clearly atheist.

i love you brother, i really do, and tonight YOU will be in my prayers. That God will do whatever it takes to get your attention. Sorry to say, most of the time that is hitting rock bottom before calling out to God. Again, i will pray for you tonight.

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Yes I became hostile AFTER being accused, but where else am I?
 

DiscipleDave

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Originally Posted by kaylagrl

Ok theres a starting point. What changed your mind?Something started the doubts. Can you share more?
All of the contradictions and orders of murder and cannabalism, how could an all loving omnipotent god order such things, even if they did not believe he could show himself and make them a believer yes?
This may be a reason you are confused about the Word of God, But NOT the reason you are no longer a Christian. What happened?

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This may be a reason you are confused about the Word of God, But NOT the reason you are no longer a Christian. What happened?

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DiscipleDave
What happened is I came here and it didn't answer anything, just sparked more questions
 
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John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.

John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.

If jesus and god are the same, who is his father, who sent him?


Jesus,the Son,God the Father...two but are one in the same. Like the egg as I said before.
 

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If you love only those that love you, what reward will you get? Even the tax collectors do that! I'm not easily swayed by any opinion, or people who question things deeply. Aren't we supposed to inspire faith in those who have lost faith, or guide those who are misguided? If single entities are such a threat, then is it that those who may be weak in faith here, are not surrounded by anyone here who makes them strong in faith? No-one here to protect those weak in faith, or have patience for those who have none?
This is True. But ChristianChat.com is for Christians. For those who profess to be Christians trying to help, encourage, or even rebuke other Christians. Atheists should have no place here on ChristianChat.com. The entire address reveals that ChristianChat.com is for Christians to chat and talk with each other. If someone then is an atheist disguised as a Christian on a Christian Forum, should be banned. i am sorry, but that is how i feel. Not that i am anybody at all, nor does my own words hold any merit. only stating what I think. And this i do very rarely.
ChristianChat.com is for Christians, not Muslims, not atheists, not Hindus, or any other religion that is out there today. Now if ChristianChat.com wants to start a section for unbelievers and other faiths to come and be a part of, i am more than all for that. Wow, voicing my own opinion on ChristianChat.com is rare occasion, feels good. Something from ME and not something that God has told me.

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DiscipleDave
 
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What happened is I came here and it didn't answer anything, just sparked more questions

People are answering your questions. And they will hang with you because these are great folk.
 
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Jesus,the Son,God the Father...two but are one in the same. Like the egg as I said before.
As I said before if they are the same person then who sent him

John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.

He is obviously talking about someone else
 

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What you need is an actual relationship with God. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It seems to me that you, in the past, had made an intellectual assessment of God, and the truth of His word, but it never made it into your heart and walk. You've gone on websites that intentionally try to sow doubt into the fabric of your mind, so as to dissuade you from the bible. Their websites worked, placed seeds of doubt and now you've found yourself questioning it altogether including now denying God's existence.

Prayer might just be what you need. Why don't you go before the Father in prayer and ask for Him to reveal Himself to you? To confirm His truth to you? That is if you are a genuine seeker, then this task shouldn't take much except simple faith. Pray, ask Him to confirm the truth of His word to you, and see what happens.

You've poisoned your mind with all the lies from anti-God sites, unfortunately, but once you get a glimpse of His love they will fall to the wayside.
 
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Jesus,the Son,God the Father...two but are one in the same. Like the egg as I said before.
Also if jesus is the father then how can the father be greater

John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.
 

NayborBear

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Perhaps you grew up in a church, and were baptized, and grew in the Lord to a point that you started "seeing" realizing, that there is more to be learnt concerning Christianity then you were seeing all around you at church? That no one at your church could, or would answer your deeper queries into the Bible, Church, Religion?....And when you got frustrated because of this, you exploded and chucked the whole kit n ka-boodle concerning God and Jesus? If this is your case? You have come to the right place!....If this isn't the case? Like disciple Dave asked.....Wut happened?
 

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"Eat me...Drink me."
The entire theme of the Christian mass/church service is that of a simulation of a human sacrifice.

It just doesn't make sense
Brother it doesn't make since to you now, because you are still in your carnal mind. If you think carnally, you won't be thinking Spiritually. Do you not see and understand that you are not even asking a question here. Notice what you say

The entire theme of the Christian mass/church service is that of a simulation of a human sacrifice.
this is a statement, not a question. Here would be a question.

I do not understand, nor does it make sense to me, why the entire theme of the Christian mass/church service seems to be that of a simulation of a human sacrifice, could someone please explain to me and help my confusion on this matter?

Now that would get you a whole lot of responses from Christians who are eager to answer that question for you. But in the above example you ask NO Question at all, and then wander why your questions are not being answered. Do you see the problem here?

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DiscipleDave
 

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This guy's name is Cthulu and we're taking this seriously?

Really?
 
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Brother it doesn't make since to you now, because you are still in your carnal mind. If you think carnally, you won't be thinking Spiritually. Do you not see and understand that you are not even asking a question here. Notice what you say



this is a statement, not a question. Here would be a question.

I do not understand, nor does it make sense to me, why the entire theme of the Christian mass/church service seems to be that of a simulation of a human sacrifice, could someone please explain to me and help my confusion on this matter?

Now that would get you a whole lot of responses from Christians who are eager to answer that question for you. But in the above example you ask NO Question at all, and then wander why your questions are not being answered. Do you see the problem here?

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DiscipleDave
What about the 20 other ones I've asked
 

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1. Why did Jesus say his followers must hate their families? Surely, when the son of God said "hate" he meant "hate," didn't he? Why would the son of God confuse us by using hyperbole? How could the examples of Luke 9:59-62, even if allegorical, be hyperbole anyway? Jesus clearly called a man to the irresponsible, disrespectful action of leaving his father, implying that he was not even to attend his funeral, and he called another to leave his family without even saying farewell or letting them know he was deserting them

2. Why did Jesus, by his own admission, break the Sabbath law (John 5:16-18)? This puts the lie to the Christian idea that the perfect Jesus fulfilled the whole Law, and therefore was a suitable unblemished sacrifice for our sins.

3. Why did Jesus say the ruler's daughter was not dead? (Matt 9:18-25; Luke 8:41-56) Either Jesus lied, or he performed no miracle, but the context clearly shows that it was understood to be a miracle.
the love you are to have for God will appear as hate to those who do not know Jesus
Jesus did not break the Sabbath HE is our Sabbth
death is also known as sleeping
 

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John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.

John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.

If jesus and god are the same, who is his father, who sent him?
Your hand does not act on its own accord, either :p
 

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Jehova is supposed to be jesus' dad, if jesus is god then jehova can not also be god, more contradiction
Wow you sound just like my good buddy JackTheHatter. In any event what is so unusual about people (or deities for that matter) taking on multiple roles and titles within a relationship? I for instance am a father but also a son and a husband. And yet I'm just one individual. It's not a difficult concept to understand.
 

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Also if jesus is the father then how can the father be greater

John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.
The same way your higher brain functions are called higher brain functions but your other brain functions are all still called brain functions. Hey, if you used those higher brain functions...
 

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My suggestion is that you read the Bible cover to cover instead of the Cliff's notes version. In some ways the Bible is the most complicated book you could ever read. It makes no sense until you grasp the fundamentals. When you do there in no conflict at all.
The Bible was designed in such a way to weed out those who are not really wanting to learn the Word of God. It was made in such a way to be confusing, contradicting, hard to understand, hard to grasp. But this was done on purpose. Those who pick up the Bible ONCE and put it down, never to pick it up again, do not have a TRUE desire to learn the Word now do they? In my case when i was 12 years old, i had read the entire Bible 3 times. i sat on my bed and cried my eyes out to the Lord, praying to Him "God, why did you make YOUR Word so hard to understand, this verse says you can, but this verse says you can't, it is confusing, i don't understand. I am your child, why oh why did you make YOUR Word so hard to understand, why, why, why" crying my eyes out, like Niagara falls, after I got done crying, and now just sobbing i said "Lord, i will read it again, please help me, amen". It was the fourth time reading the entire Bible that God opened up the Scriptures to me, it was absolutely AMAZING. What this generation does not understand, is that the Word of God is FOOD for the Holy Ghost. if you are not reading the Bible or hearing it, your spirit is not being fed and gets weaker and weaker. But if you continue to read it the Spirit gets stronger and stronger.

Have you ever read a verse in the Bible, and after reading that verse many times, all of a sudden like lightning, you understand that verse PLAINLY. It is at that very moment that the Spirit inside of you was strong enough to reveal to you in your physical mind the meaning and understanding of that particular verse. BAMMM you instantly understood that verse and what it means. So like Embankment said, Cthulu_40 read the Word, and stay in it. Because of a Truth even though you do not understand what you are reading the Spirit inside of you is being fed because of the Word. So then even if you don't understand it, KEEP READING it, and the Lord will help you to understand it, i promise you that.

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DiscipleDave