Dear 'BibleGuy' . . .

[popeye]

Jesus did not break anything(of the Torah), He was without sin He's entire time down here. If he did break something it was the tradition and man made doctrines of men.

No,he apparently INTENTIONALLY broke it by picking corn,and when confronted,he did not refute it,but said; " ...and you also break it..."

He even further defended breaking the law by commending David FOR BREAKING THE LAW.

Your teachers are lacking in knowledge sir.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

You are oblivious that in your doctrine,the law has taken precedence over the law giver.

What exactly are you trying to say here ?

 

[popeye]

What exactly are you trying to say here ?

I am saying you emphasize the law OVER the law giver.

You don't see you are preaching a " law bridge" to heaven???

 

[simplifiedtruth]

No,he apparently INTENTIONALLY broke it by picking corn,and when confronted,he did not refute it,but said; " ...and you also break it..."

He even further defended breaking the law by commending David FOR BREAKING THE LAW.

Your teachers are lacking in knowledge sir.

1 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made himto be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1 John 3:4-5 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

No, Jesus did not sin (break the Torah). Also eating from the corners of the crops and of trees was left for the poor according to the Law. They were not allowed to put it into baskets, but to eat from it.

 

[popeye]

Paul is not against the commandment of circumcision in the Torah. Neither did Jesus "bust up sabbath keeping". Be careful what you say.

You can't refute it?

I gave you bible. Now show me where the bible is wrong

 

[simplifiedtruth]

I am saying you emphasize the law OVER the law giver.

You don't see you are preaching a " law bridge" to heaven???

Emphasize the law over the law giver ? And what does that mean exactly ?

 

[popeye]

1 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made himto be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1 John 3:4-5 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

No, Jesus did not sin (break the Torah). Also eating from the corners of the crops and of trees was left for the poor according to the Law. They were not allowed to put it into baskets, but to eat from it.

He did not refute it,but agreed that they BOTH BROKE THE LAW.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

He did not refute it,but agreed that they BOTH BROKE THE LAW.

The pharisees did not understand the law. And they made a ton of new man made laws that they exalted as the Law of God itself.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

You can't refute it?

I gave you bible. Now show me where the bible is wrong

Where did you give bible ?

 

[popeye]

Emphasize the law over the law giver ? And what does that mean exactly ?

Jesus is junior to your doctrine of law keeping.

BTW,it is a quagmire for all you torah guys,in that,should you break it ,even in the most miniscule transgression,you might as well break the entire thing.

Your own doctrine will condemn you.

 

[popeye]

Where did you give bible ?

Your not aware of the story of Jesus and the Pharisees?

It is in the new testament.

Same place where he commended David for breaking the law.

 

[simplifiedtruth]

Jesus is junior to your doctrine of law keeping.

BTW,it is a quagmire for all you torah guys,in that,should you break it ,even in the most miniscule transgression,you might as well break the entire thing.

Your own doctrine will condemn you.

Can you please explain what you are trying to say ?

 

[popeye]

The pharisees did not understand the law. And they made a ton of new man made laws that they exalted as the Law of God itself.

Not true.

Paul,an ex Pharisee,was "....to the law,BLAMELESS..."

You ever read the N T ?

 

[popeye]

Can you please explain what you are trying to say ?

You keep saying that.

Anyone can do that.

I dunno,....look up the word "emphasize" ?

 

[popeye]

You guys even preach that Jesus is an avenue to torah keeping.

ONLY,a means to an end.

 

[Dan_473]

something I've wondered, from any lawkeeper that wants to answer


if some beef has been slaughtered such that some blood is still left in it, will eating it make a person unclean?

 

[popeye]

On my phone,so the verses I refer to are from memory.

They are there.

You are not taught them,because it basically blows huge holes in your doctrine.

Why would they show you that ?

 

[simplifiedtruth]

You keep saying that.

Anyone can do that.

I dunno,....look up the word "emphasize" ?

Yes, and in what way do I do that ? And to what end ?

 

[simplifiedtruth]

You guys even preach that Jesus is an avenue to torah keeping.

ONLY,a means to an end.

Jesus came to save us from our sins. And you guys want to remain in your sins ?, and justify yourself doing so ?

 

[popeye]

something I've wondered, from any lawkeeper that wants to answer


if some beef has been slaughtered such that some blood is still left in it, will eating it make a person unclean?

Not only that,the animal has to be slain a certain way.

The temple in heaven,basically,is "illegal" in that certain furniture is missing.

Jesus preached law breaking " you have heard.... But I say..."