Did you know the early church never gathered on Sunday?
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Also this as well...
Mark 7:7 Their worship of me is worthless, because they teach human laws as doctrines.’
Matthew 15:9 Their worship of me is empty,because they teach human laws as doctrines.’”
True worship belongs to God and is defined by God and is expressed by His people in the way He desires to be worshiped. We worship God on purpose, not by accident.
Mark 7:7 Their worship of me is worthless, because they teach human laws as doctrines.’
Matthew 15:9 Their worship of me is empty,because they teach human laws as doctrines.’”
True worship belongs to God and is defined by God and is expressed by His people in the way He desires to be worshiped. We worship God on purpose, not by accident.
Well, I'll be sure to pass that along to Paul...
2Th 3:10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
2Th 3:11 For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies.
2Th 3:12 Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.
2Th 3:10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
2Th 3:11 For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies.
2Th 3:12 Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.
I do not think Paul will understand you even if he is with you..
Paul was talking about...members of the church abusing the resources of the members of the Church...
Government benefits are given to those lawfully entitled regardless of Beliefs/Religion...
Did you not received benefits for having children???
Paul was talking about...members of the church abusing the resources of the members of the Church...
Government benefits are given to those lawfully entitled regardless of Beliefs/Religion...
Did you not received benefits for having children???
True. Jesus/God never said anyone should starve should they be absent of charity or firm desire to work. In fact just the opposite is true. Proverbs 21:25-28 [SUP]25 [/SUP]The desire of the sluggard kills him, for his hands refuse to labor.[SUP]26 [/SUP]All day long he craves and craves, but the righteous gives and does not hold back.
[h=3]Deuteronomy 15:7-11 [/h] “If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the Lord against you, and you be guilty of sin. You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’
[h=3]Proverbs 19:17 Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.[/h]
[h=3]Matthew 5:42[/h] Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you.
[h=3]Deuteronomy 15:7-11 [/h] “If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the Lord against you, and you be guilty of sin. You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’
[h=3]Proverbs 19:17 Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.[/h]
[h=3]Matthew 5:42[/h] Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you.
Re: REGARDING CHRIST'S CHURCH
Please understand, Jaume,
Christ gave it to his apostles, those men charged with leading his flock after his ascension;
The RCC is the first to tell you that there are many other saints besides those whom they proclaim, though those whom they proclaim as saints are indeed saints, yes because they said so, because Christ said that if they said so then it would be so. This is the great commission.
I am afraid, my friend, that you are the one ignoring the teachings of our Lord,, not the RCC.
Trying to convert the converted, eh? Attempting to draw Christ's disciples out of His own Church through your false teaching. How foolish. Remember, Jaume, that you will indeed have to answer for that before God. Careful where you tread.
Please understand, Jaume,
Christ gave it to his apostles, those men charged with leading his flock after his ascension;
"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
- Mat 16:19
- Mat 16:19
The RCC is the first to tell you that there are many other saints besides those whom they proclaim, though those whom they proclaim as saints are indeed saints, yes because they said so, because Christ said that if they said so then it would be so. This is the great commission.
I am afraid, my friend, that you are the one ignoring the teachings of our Lord,, not the RCC.
Trying to convert the converted, eh? Attempting to draw Christ's disciples out of His own Church through your false teaching. How foolish. Remember, Jaume, that you will indeed have to answer for that before God. Careful where you tread.
Re: REGARDING CHRIST'S CHURCH
Roman Catholic Church.
Who would have ever thought it back in the day? An authority that ruled nearly the whole world, their government, in concert with the Jews at the time, killed God.
And nearly 300 years later a church committed to his worship was started under Roman authority.
Roman Catholic Church.
Who would have ever thought it back in the day? An authority that ruled nearly the whole world, their government, in concert with the Jews at the time, killed God.
And nearly 300 years later a church committed to his worship was started under Roman authority.
K
Christians are the Lords church. ( Believers in Jesus Christ )
Christianity came before the Catholic church was formed.
The Apostles were first called Christians at Antioch, because they followed Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
Once again I will state Christians ( Believers in Jesus as Lord and Savior ) are the true church.
Not catholic, Baptist, evangelist, or any other denomination you belong to.
I understand that the Catholic church was started by Peter, Augustine, and Paul, but in case you don't know your history it also was the first church denomination to be corrupted. Hince why things they do just like you can find in any other denominational branch is not fully bible oriented.
Christianity came before the Catholic church was formed.
The Apostles were first called Christians at Antioch, because they followed Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
Once again I will state Christians ( Believers in Jesus as Lord and Savior ) are the true church.
Not catholic, Baptist, evangelist, or any other denomination you belong to.
I understand that the Catholic church was started by Peter, Augustine, and Paul, but in case you don't know your history it also was the first church denomination to be corrupted. Hince why things they do just like you can find in any other denominational branch is not fully bible oriented.
Hi Ken,
Wow. You're all over the place. Augustine lived some 400 years after Peter and Paul, and was a CONVERT to Christianity (Catholicism). He did not start the Church. Christ did, and commissioned Peter (and his successors) as it's leader in His absence, until He (Jesus) comes again.
Augustine, before his conversion, practiced Manichaeism, his father was a pagan. His mother Monica however (whose feast day in the Church happens to be today actually) was a devout Christian (Catholic) who prayed and prayed all her life for the conversion of her gifted son (Augustine) who refused for many years, well into his 30's. Augustine finally had a revelation after he heard a child-like voice tell him to open the bible. He opened the bible to Paul's Epistle to the Romans, and the rest is history.
You should study him. He's a great man.
You should study the history of the Church, and the Church fathers. Seek after the truth.
You are doing better, Ken, when you say that the Catholic Church was started by Peter. More accurately though started by Jesus Christ our Lord when he commissioned Peter with that office.
Yet you contradict yourself when you say that it is a "denomination" and "corrupted". Yes the Church is under constant attack from within and without. Remember our Lords' promise though when he said about her; "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."
He promised us. And here we are 2000 years later and she's still going strong today, 1.2 billion members, and having outlasted every empire that's ever existed. Praise God!
p.s. St. Augustine's feast day happens to be tomorrow in the Church. Gonna be a great Mass.
God bless
Wow. You're all over the place. Augustine lived some 400 years after Peter and Paul, and was a CONVERT to Christianity (Catholicism). He did not start the Church. Christ did, and commissioned Peter (and his successors) as it's leader in His absence, until He (Jesus) comes again.
Augustine, before his conversion, practiced Manichaeism, his father was a pagan. His mother Monica however (whose feast day in the Church happens to be today actually) was a devout Christian (Catholic) who prayed and prayed all her life for the conversion of her gifted son (Augustine) who refused for many years, well into his 30's. Augustine finally had a revelation after he heard a child-like voice tell him to open the bible. He opened the bible to Paul's Epistle to the Romans, and the rest is history.
You should study him. He's a great man.
You should study the history of the Church, and the Church fathers. Seek after the truth.
You are doing better, Ken, when you say that the Catholic Church was started by Peter. More accurately though started by Jesus Christ our Lord when he commissioned Peter with that office.
Yet you contradict yourself when you say that it is a "denomination" and "corrupted". Yes the Church is under constant attack from within and without. Remember our Lords' promise though when he said about her; "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."
He promised us. And here we are 2000 years later and she's still going strong today, 1.2 billion members, and having outlasted every empire that's ever existed. Praise God!
p.s. St. Augustine's feast day happens to be tomorrow in the Church. Gonna be a great Mass.
God bless
More blah blah blah, as usual around here. No substance. Nothing to back it up. Just hatred and ignorance.
Yes, Rome was the great persecuter of Christians, eventually however becoming overwhelmingly Christian. What a radical conversion. Truly divine. It's beautiful. Christ reigns.
Read Paul's Epistle to the Romans for starters for goodness sake, the man who first went to Rome and began that great conversion. Put away that fundamentalist ignorance and hate.
Yes, Rome was the great persecuter of Christians, eventually however becoming overwhelmingly Christian. What a radical conversion. Truly divine. It's beautiful. Christ reigns.
Read Paul's Epistle to the Romans for starters for goodness sake, the man who first went to Rome and began that great conversion. Put away that fundamentalist ignorance and hate.
J
Col 2:14-17 Having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out that way, nailing it to the cross; having despoiled the principalities and the powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a sabbath day: which are a shadow of the things to come; but the body is Christ`s.