DIETARY LAWS: Why and when were they established?
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O.K. This is where it gets complicated so bear with me. There are several issues at stake here.
First, as I said at the beginning of the thread, there was a very good reason for the health laws in the OT. But the verse you quoted was about eating food that had been offered to idols, and idol worship is an other issue altogether. Now then, blood is an excellent fertiliser and we use blood-meal today, on the ground and given the choice as to whether I drink a pint of blood or spread it on the ground, I would go for the latter as being the most beneficial, not just to me, but for other people as well, so everyone benefits from the crops. Beside which I just do not like the thought of eating black pudding at all.
The verses you quote are why Jehovah Witnesses refuse blood transfusions, now first of all Christians are not under the law. Jehovah Witnesses say the same, they say that as Christians (what!) we are under the "Law of the Christ."-(Galatians 6:2) According to the Bible, the Mosaic Law, with it's dietary restrictions, was "nailed to the stake"(Colossians 2:13,14) along with Jesus, when he sacrificed his life for all those exercising faith in him. So the Bible also says: "Christ is the end of the Law."-(Romans 10:4; 6:14) Therefore, JW's do not practice the Mosaic Law which includes these dietary restrictions."
Do Jehovah...ods if not why
But they still hold to the law on blood when it comes to blood transfusions, how hypercritical is that! And because of their hypocrisy thousands have died needlessly. (Bad, very bad.)
Anyway, to sum up, I would say to you, to forget the 613 Mitzvot laws, and follow the Commandments of Jesus which include the Ten Commandments given to Moses including the fourth one about keeping one day of the week holy, whether or not it falls on the Jewish Sabbath, is irrelevant to me. I prefer to worship a risen Christ.
Now, what were you saying again?
Footnote, the link I gave has changed, sorry, it was there about ten years ago.
First, as I said at the beginning of the thread, there was a very good reason for the health laws in the OT. But the verse you quoted was about eating food that had been offered to idols, and idol worship is an other issue altogether. Now then, blood is an excellent fertiliser and we use blood-meal today, on the ground and given the choice as to whether I drink a pint of blood or spread it on the ground, I would go for the latter as being the most beneficial, not just to me, but for other people as well, so everyone benefits from the crops. Beside which I just do not like the thought of eating black pudding at all.
The verses you quote are why Jehovah Witnesses refuse blood transfusions, now first of all Christians are not under the law. Jehovah Witnesses say the same, they say that as Christians (what!) we are under the "Law of the Christ."-(Galatians 6:2) According to the Bible, the Mosaic Law, with it's dietary restrictions, was "nailed to the stake"(Colossians 2:13,14) along with Jesus, when he sacrificed his life for all those exercising faith in him. So the Bible also says: "Christ is the end of the Law."-(Romans 10:4; 6:14) Therefore, JW's do not practice the Mosaic Law which includes these dietary restrictions."
Do Jehovah...ods if not why
But they still hold to the law on blood when it comes to blood transfusions, how hypercritical is that! And because of their hypocrisy thousands have died needlessly. (Bad, very bad.)
Anyway, to sum up, I would say to you, to forget the 613 Mitzvot laws, and follow the Commandments of Jesus which include the Ten Commandments given to Moses including the fourth one about keeping one day of the week holy, whether or not it falls on the Jewish Sabbath, is irrelevant to me. I prefer to worship a risen Christ.
Now, what were you saying again?
Footnote, the link I gave has changed, sorry, it was there about ten years ago.
Many Christians today excuse their diets and use the excuse that all foods are clean.
But the reality is they are self serving people who twist scripture to allow for their selfish appetite rather than deny self and live for God.
they do not display the fruit of the Spirit in agape love or self-control/temperance but rather have made their stomachs their God.
The sad thing is many who are in this trap are there because of false teachers who lulled them to sleep crying peace and safety when in fact there is no safety in selfish love.
Being a christian effects every aspect of life as the selfless love of God takes control of the mind.
Then when we eat or drink or whatever we do it is all done to glorify God.
But the reality is they are self serving people who twist scripture to allow for their selfish appetite rather than deny self and live for God.
they do not display the fruit of the Spirit in agape love or self-control/temperance but rather have made their stomachs their God.
The sad thing is many who are in this trap are there because of false teachers who lulled them to sleep crying peace and safety when in fact there is no safety in selfish love.
Being a christian effects every aspect of life as the selfless love of God takes control of the mind.
Then when we eat or drink or whatever we do it is all done to glorify God.
This is where actually believing God comes in. If God says that all foods are clean, then they are clean. If God says that all meats are clean then they are clean. But after God declares all meats to be clean and a naysayer comes along and says "I DON'T BELIEVE GOD", then the naysayer has a serious spiritual problem, not the one who eats all foods and takes all necessary precautions to destroy any bacteria or viruses.
So now let's look at the Scripture (given by Divine inspiration to Paul) which tells us that ALL MEATS are clean (1 Tim 4:1-5):
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Now what lessons do we have in this passage?
1. The issue of imposing dietary restrictions is connected with (a) apostasy -- "some shall depart from the faith, (b) seducing evil spirits attempting to deceive Christians, and (c) doctrines or teachings originating with demons (called "devils).
2. This passage is not about fruits and vegetables, but meats. Even though that word translated "meats" in the KJB could mean any kind of food, the words "created" and "creature" make it clear that this is about meats from animals.
3. This is what God says through Paul to all Christians:
(a) "Every creature" means all meats. Therefore Christians are free to eat any and all meats, depending on what they prefer culturally.
(b) If every creature of God is "good" in this context, it means good for nutrition, not moral values. Thus God puts His seal of approval on any meat consumed for nutrition.
(c) Christians who know and believe the truth will accept this teaching wholeheartedly.
(d) All meats are to be received with thankfulness ("thanksgiving) and nothing is to be refused.
(e) Before partaking of any food (including these meats) the meal must be sanctified with the Word of God and with prayer.
It will be readily noted that this passage is a REBUKE to those who would impose dietary restrictions on Christians, since they would actually be promoting the doctrines of evil seducing spirits and demons. There are other passages of Scripture which make allowance for weaker brethren ,forbid the consumption of blood or meats which have been strangled or offered to idols, but those are separate issues. The Lord had already taught men that it is not what goes into the belly that defiles a man but what comes out of the "heart" -- the sinful thoughts within the soul.
So now let's look at the Scripture (given by Divine inspiration to Paul) which tells us that ALL MEATS are clean (1 Tim 4:1-5):
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Now what lessons do we have in this passage?
1. The issue of imposing dietary restrictions is connected with (a) apostasy -- "some shall depart from the faith, (b) seducing evil spirits attempting to deceive Christians, and (c) doctrines or teachings originating with demons (called "devils).
2. This passage is not about fruits and vegetables, but meats. Even though that word translated "meats" in the KJB could mean any kind of food, the words "created" and "creature" make it clear that this is about meats from animals.
3. This is what God says through Paul to all Christians:
(a) "Every creature" means all meats. Therefore Christians are free to eat any and all meats, depending on what they prefer culturally.
(b) If every creature of God is "good" in this context, it means good for nutrition, not moral values. Thus God puts His seal of approval on any meat consumed for nutrition.
(c) Christians who know and believe the truth will accept this teaching wholeheartedly.
(d) All meats are to be received with thankfulness ("thanksgiving) and nothing is to be refused.
(e) Before partaking of any food (including these meats) the meal must be sanctified with the Word of God and with prayer.
It will be readily noted that this passage is a REBUKE to those who would impose dietary restrictions on Christians, since they would actually be promoting the doctrines of evil seducing spirits and demons. There are other passages of Scripture which make allowance for weaker brethren ,forbid the consumption of blood or meats which have been strangled or offered to idols, but those are separate issues. The Lord had already taught men that it is not what goes into the belly that defiles a man but what comes out of the "heart" -- the sinful thoughts within the soul.
1 Tim. 2:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
If NEH6 can find in the Word of God where God created Pork, or human flesh, or eagles for food, to be received as food with thanksgiving, he might have a point.
But this one scripture does not make "ALL MEAT" food. Some animals were created for other purposes than for food. Now NEH6 belongs to a religion which has a tradition of eating Pork and shellfish, would be my guess given this post. I was born into this same religion.
Others are born into a religion where people drink blood, others, where human flesh is consumed. But when we turn to the God of Abraham, we are to "Change" from our ways to God's Ways.
If I have a practice of random sex with other men's wives, I need to repent and stop doing this. Not because it goes against some religious franchise traditions, but because it goes against the instructions of God.
If I have a practice of drinking animal blood, then when I turn to God I must repent and stop this behavior. (Acts 15) Not because it goes against some religion that "Comes in Christ's Name", but because it is contrary to the Instructions given by Jesus, as God of the OT.
If I have a tradition of eating pork or shellfish, then when I turn to God I must repent and stop this behavior. Not because of some religious belief, but because it goes against the instructions Jesus created for man.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Humans, Pigs, maggots, cock roaches, Oysters, Eagles, owls, these are all good creatures created and sanctified for a purpose. That purpose is just not for food.
Those who believe in the Word of God understand this purpose and behave accordingly.
Others create their own traditions "Like eating only fish on this day or that" or rejecting meat all together and rebuking those who don't follow this tradition.
To preach that this one scripture erases God's Created purpose for His creation is a falsehood, widely spread, YES. But a falsehood just the same.
If NEH6 can find in the Word of God where God created Pork, or human flesh, or eagles for food, to be received as food with thanksgiving, he might have a point.
But this one scripture does not make "ALL MEAT" food. Some animals were created for other purposes than for food. Now NEH6 belongs to a religion which has a tradition of eating Pork and shellfish, would be my guess given this post. I was born into this same religion.
Others are born into a religion where people drink blood, others, where human flesh is consumed. But when we turn to the God of Abraham, we are to "Change" from our ways to God's Ways.
If I have a practice of random sex with other men's wives, I need to repent and stop doing this. Not because it goes against some religious franchise traditions, but because it goes against the instructions of God.
If I have a practice of drinking animal blood, then when I turn to God I must repent and stop this behavior. (Acts 15) Not because it goes against some religion that "Comes in Christ's Name", but because it is contrary to the Instructions given by Jesus, as God of the OT.
If I have a tradition of eating pork or shellfish, then when I turn to God I must repent and stop this behavior. Not because of some religious belief, but because it goes against the instructions Jesus created for man.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Humans, Pigs, maggots, cock roaches, Oysters, Eagles, owls, these are all good creatures created and sanctified for a purpose. That purpose is just not for food.
Those who believe in the Word of God understand this purpose and behave accordingly.
Others create their own traditions "Like eating only fish on this day or that" or rejecting meat all together and rebuking those who don't follow this tradition.
To preach that this one scripture erases God's Created purpose for His creation is a falsehood, widely spread, YES. But a falsehood just the same.
You make a very good point.
The word food has meaning attached to it which Neh6 totally misses.
Jesus had instruction from God so when they hear these words:
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
They straight away think OK which foods has God created to be received with thanksgiving. Then they would go oh yeah the ones he gave instruction about in the law.
In fact this scripture is picked because the context is not immediately clear. In other words he can not prove his point form this scripture, he has to make assumptions when using this passage alone. The deductions he makes are in fact based in assumptions. WE need more information to be sure.
But as above there is another point neglected and the hint is here:
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
"forbidding to marry" This is a cultural issue. There are people who are bringing in rules that are not found in the law and forcing them on people. We see Paul speak on similar issues in Romans 14.
This is all in verse 1:
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
"depart from the faith". The issue is people departing from the faith, This passage to Timothy does not specify exactly what it means by forbidding to marry or obtain from foods that God gave.
But the law is clear that God did not give everything for food. Some were for food some were not to be eaten/not food. THe law does indeed forbid an adulterer from marrying.
The issue here is outside of these marriage and food issues.
We need some context and this passage does not give much, It does not tell us the reasons or reasoning behind the forbidding to marry or obtain form food.
But like I said there are passages that Paul does actually speak about food in this manner with some more context.
Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Here Paul talks about not judging about "doubtful disputations". Which simply means don't judge on issues that are not based in the faith or the scriptures/law and the prophets. Remember Paul taught that the law and the prophets known at the time as the scriptures were for instruction as it is written:
2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Keep in mind this is also instruction to Timonthy. So the faith is based the scriptures/OT.
Paul speaks in Romans 14 of people judging concerning fast days, some eat others don't. Paul says the scriptures do not say, so don't judge.
In other places he speaks of food offered to idols as really not a big issue because Idols are nothing.
One could go on and on.
The word food has meaning attached to it which Neh6 totally misses.
Jesus had instruction from God so when they hear these words:
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
They straight away think OK which foods has God created to be received with thanksgiving. Then they would go oh yeah the ones he gave instruction about in the law.
In fact this scripture is picked because the context is not immediately clear. In other words he can not prove his point form this scripture, he has to make assumptions when using this passage alone. The deductions he makes are in fact based in assumptions. WE need more information to be sure.
But as above there is another point neglected and the hint is here:
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
"forbidding to marry" This is a cultural issue. There are people who are bringing in rules that are not found in the law and forcing them on people. We see Paul speak on similar issues in Romans 14.
This is all in verse 1:
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
"depart from the faith". The issue is people departing from the faith, This passage to Timothy does not specify exactly what it means by forbidding to marry or obtain from foods that God gave.
But the law is clear that God did not give everything for food. Some were for food some were not to be eaten/not food. THe law does indeed forbid an adulterer from marrying.
The issue here is outside of these marriage and food issues.
We need some context and this passage does not give much, It does not tell us the reasons or reasoning behind the forbidding to marry or obtain form food.
But like I said there are passages that Paul does actually speak about food in this manner with some more context.
Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Here Paul talks about not judging about "doubtful disputations". Which simply means don't judge on issues that are not based in the faith or the scriptures/law and the prophets. Remember Paul taught that the law and the prophets known at the time as the scriptures were for instruction as it is written:
2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Keep in mind this is also instruction to Timonthy. So the faith is based the scriptures/OT.
Paul speaks in Romans 14 of people judging concerning fast days, some eat others don't. Paul says the scriptures do not say, so don't judge.
In other places he speaks of food offered to idols as really not a big issue because Idols are nothing.
One could go on and on.
Paul said "Let each person be convinced in their own mind". Convinced of what? That we can create our own Holy and unholy?, Clean and unclean? No, Paul knows that if the person is truly seeking they will come to that one place all of God's people come to.
Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Like Paul said in the "weak in Faith" chapter.
Rom. 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Good post gotime :^)
Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Like Paul said in the "weak in Faith" chapter.
Rom. 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Good post gotime :^)
You can argue with God (not me) all you want, but the fact remains that it is NOT food which pollutes the soul. This is clearly taught by Christ Himself:
MARK 7
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
It should be noted that the Lord Jesus Christ had to give UNUSUAL EMPHASIS to this teaching.
1. First He said "Hearken unto me". In modern parlance "Listen up, and listen carefully".
2. Then He said "and understand". People can hear with their ears but either shut out the message or refuse to understand through wilful blindness.
3. Then He said "If any man have ears to hear let him hear" which does not simply refer to anatomical ears but the inner spiritual ears which Christians are supposed to have.
Even though I have posted Scripture -- the words of God -- there are still some here who are insisting on their false doctrine about dietary laws. If you choose not to eat something, that is your personal preference. But if you choose to oppose what God has clearly stated, you make God a liar and resist His Holy Spirit. That is a rather serious offense.
MARK 7
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
It should be noted that the Lord Jesus Christ had to give UNUSUAL EMPHASIS to this teaching.
1. First He said "Hearken unto me". In modern parlance "Listen up, and listen carefully".
2. Then He said "and understand". People can hear with their ears but either shut out the message or refuse to understand through wilful blindness.
3. Then He said "If any man have ears to hear let him hear" which does not simply refer to anatomical ears but the inner spiritual ears which Christians are supposed to have.
Even though I have posted Scripture -- the words of God -- there are still some here who are insisting on their false doctrine about dietary laws. If you choose not to eat something, that is your personal preference. But if you choose to oppose what God has clearly stated, you make God a liar and resist His Holy Spirit. That is a rather serious offense.
You have omitted the very heart of the conversation.
Mark 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
The Pharisees were trying to burden the disciples with "MAN MADE DOCTRINES".
You ignore this truth in your post.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye (Not God) have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
So here Jesus is putting the emphasis on God's Words over the traditions of men they further (NOT Given by God)
Then Jesus begins to warn us.
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Does rebellion, hatred, dishonor, selfishness, pride, disobedience, come from without or from within? Is it the naked woman in the magazine that defiles us, or is it caving to the fleshy desire to look on and lust after that defiles us.
It is your religious tradition, and that of "MANY" who come in Christ's name, to reject God's creation laws where animals created for food are concerned. Does your rebellion or disrespect to God regarding this commandment come from without or from within?
There is not one commandment which makes it a sin to eat with unwashed hands. That was a "Commandment of men" as is easily proven with God's Word. But there is a commandments which clearly restricts you, if you are one of God's People, from eating Pork, drinking Blood, eating Eagles, oysters etc.
The pig running around rooting up truffles does not defile you. But to ignore God and His word simply because it goes against your ancient religious tradition, does defile you. Rejecting God's Word defiles you. Creating your own version of clean and unclean while rejecting God's defiles you. It is the disobedience to God and His Word that comes from within and defiles.
Like adultery, you are defiled long before your pants come off. With pork, you defile yourself long before the ribs go on the fire.
I'm not arguing here about to eat or not to eat. The point of this post is to expose the False preaching that Jesus made it OK to "Transgress the commandment of God by man's religious traditions," in Mark 7, no matter what they are.
And those who make the claim that Jesus made all things clean in Mark 7, are furthering a deception created to justify a certain lifestyle which goes against the instructions of God.
When a man looks at all the Words in Mark 7, and doesn't omit the very heart of the teaching, it becomes clear that Jesus is teaching to hearken to the Word's of God over the traditions of man.
Just the opposite of what you are saying.
Mark 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
The Pharisees were trying to burden the disciples with "MAN MADE DOCTRINES".
You ignore this truth in your post.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye (Not God) have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
So here Jesus is putting the emphasis on God's Words over the traditions of men they further (NOT Given by God)
Then Jesus begins to warn us.
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Does rebellion, hatred, dishonor, selfishness, pride, disobedience, come from without or from within? Is it the naked woman in the magazine that defiles us, or is it caving to the fleshy desire to look on and lust after that defiles us.
It is your religious tradition, and that of "MANY" who come in Christ's name, to reject God's creation laws where animals created for food are concerned. Does your rebellion or disrespect to God regarding this commandment come from without or from within?
There is not one commandment which makes it a sin to eat with unwashed hands. That was a "Commandment of men" as is easily proven with God's Word. But there is a commandments which clearly restricts you, if you are one of God's People, from eating Pork, drinking Blood, eating Eagles, oysters etc.
The pig running around rooting up truffles does not defile you. But to ignore God and His word simply because it goes against your ancient religious tradition, does defile you. Rejecting God's Word defiles you. Creating your own version of clean and unclean while rejecting God's defiles you. It is the disobedience to God and His Word that comes from within and defiles.
Like adultery, you are defiled long before your pants come off. With pork, you defile yourself long before the ribs go on the fire.
I'm not arguing here about to eat or not to eat. The point of this post is to expose the False preaching that Jesus made it OK to "Transgress the commandment of God by man's religious traditions," in Mark 7, no matter what they are.
And those who make the claim that Jesus made all things clean in Mark 7, are furthering a deception created to justify a certain lifestyle which goes against the instructions of God.
When a man looks at all the Words in Mark 7, and doesn't omit the very heart of the teaching, it becomes clear that Jesus is teaching to hearken to the Word's of God over the traditions of man.
Just the opposite of what you are saying.