Do animals have eternal life?
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well, not really
I was reflecting your question about Adam getting bored...which I am pretty sure you noticed LOL!
it seems you are trying very hard to say things that you are reading INTO scripture..ie. speaking for God and deciding that animals are beneath His dignity even though He created them
for example, stating that Adam was bored with the animals is not an accurate statement..God said it was not good for him to be alone...nothing to do with boredom
Your other statement, that Eve was created as a spiritual companion is, frankly, a little scary. First, why would you capitalize the word spiritual? and second, you do realize God created everything with the intention it would reproduce? While I find spirituality an attractive quality in a man, the earth would have 0 population if that was all that God had in mind
your statement that animals are not spiritual is like 'so what?' that has nothing to do with anything I am also not convinced they are not spiritual. It's really up to God how things are going to be and we do not know everything.
When people express an opinion as if they alone have a superior interpretation, they actually weaken their credibility in my opinion
I was reflecting your question about Adam getting bored...which I am pretty sure you noticed LOL!
it seems you are trying very hard to say things that you are reading INTO scripture..ie. speaking for God and deciding that animals are beneath His dignity even though He created them
for example, stating that Adam was bored with the animals is not an accurate statement..God said it was not good for him to be alone...nothing to do with boredom
Your other statement, that Eve was created as a spiritual companion is, frankly, a little scary. First, why would you capitalize the word spiritual? and second, you do realize God created everything with the intention it would reproduce? While I find spirituality an attractive quality in a man, the earth would have 0 population if that was all that God had in mind
your statement that animals are not spiritual is like 'so what?' that has nothing to do with anything I am also not convinced they are not spiritual. It's really up to God how things are going to be and we do not know everything.
When people express an opinion as if they alone have a superior interpretation, they actually weaken their credibility in my opinion
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well that's fine
God did not create such a diverse world for nothing then...there is always the concrete jungle for folks who prefer that to a real jungle
is there some reason in particular that you appear to believe that if you love an animal or animals, God is left out in the cold wringing His hands and wishing He could join the inner circle?
that seems to be what you think people who love animals are doing
yet, the NT declares that God, the Father, sees even the sparrow fall as Jesus said and Jesus goes on to say that as He is even concerned with the little sparrow, it shows how much more He loves us
God does not have some tiny little emotion that prevents or disallows any room for anything else
sorry, but you have it wrong
God did not create such a diverse world for nothing then...there is always the concrete jungle for folks who prefer that to a real jungle
is there some reason in particular that you appear to believe that if you love an animal or animals, God is left out in the cold wringing His hands and wishing He could join the inner circle?
that seems to be what you think people who love animals are doing
yet, the NT declares that God, the Father, sees even the sparrow fall as Jesus said and Jesus goes on to say that as He is even concerned with the little sparrow, it shows how much more He loves us
God does not have some tiny little emotion that prevents or disallows any room for anything else
sorry, but you have it wrong
The lexicons define the term as being isolated, and totally alone - thus, Adam would most certainly be lonely and bored.
When his helper, Eve, finally does arrive, Adam proclaims 'at long last!'.
Why was Eve not created at the same time as Adam, then...?
Animals are nephesh creatures...they are NOT spiritual - thus, they return to the earth and are gone forever when they die.
When his helper, Eve, finally does arrive, Adam proclaims 'at long last!'.
Why was Eve not created at the same time as Adam, then...?
Animals are nephesh creatures...they are NOT spiritual - thus, they return to the earth and are gone forever when they die.
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except I did not say one time that they do actually go to heaven
what I did state, is that there are animals in heaven as Revelation depicts Jesus on a white horse...not a unicorn so let's not say I say that either LOL!
back to Adam and Eve...you know, there is really not much a person can say to someone who has a different translation of scripture than the rest of the world and appears to believe that it is the only correct one
now that, must be lonely!
Can't remember if i have mentioned this before?
Ecclesiastes 3:19
For what happens to people also happens to animals—a single event happens to them: just as someone dies, so does the other. In fact, they all breathe the same way, so that a human being has no superiority over an animal. All of this is pointless.
Ecclesiastes 3:19
For what happens to people also happens to animals—a single event happens to them: just as someone dies, so does the other. In fact, they all breathe the same way, so that a human being has no superiority over an animal. All of this is pointless.
I don't have a problem with it at all. I think you're misunderstanding my intentions. I have a dog myself. It's been a great family pet, however, I know it's an animal that will die and return to the earth. That's all. If I make the dog more than that because of emotions, then I'm in danger of elevating that animal above that which is intended. It's not a make or break it thing to me with a brother or sister in Christ.
I've heard people say, "it just won't be heaven without my pet." That's insane to me.
I've heard people say, "it just won't be heaven without my pet." That's insane to me.
I believe that every creature that is flesh and blood and has the breath of life,* is raised from the dead.
Genesis 1:30 (KJV)
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life
Genesis 7:15 (KJV)
15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.
Genesis 7:21-23 (KJV)
21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died
Ecclesiastes 3:18-22(NKJV)
18 I said in my heart, “Concerning the condition of the sons of men, God tests them, that they may see that they themselves are like animals.” 19 For what happens to the sons of men also happens to animals; one thing befalls them: as one dies, so dies the other. Surely, they all have one breath; man has no advantage over animals, for all is vanity. 20 All go to one place: all are from the dust, and all return to dust. 21 Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward, and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth?
Numbers 27:16 (KJV)
16 Let the Lord, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation,
1 Corinthians 15:35-58(KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds
Genesis 1:30 (KJV)
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life
Genesis 7:15 (KJV)
15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.
Genesis 7:21-23 (KJV)
21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died
Ecclesiastes 3:18-22(NKJV)
18 I said in my heart, “Concerning the condition of the sons of men, God tests them, that they may see that they themselves are like animals.” 19 For what happens to the sons of men also happens to animals; one thing befalls them: as one dies, so dies the other. Surely, they all have one breath; man has no advantage over animals, for all is vanity. 20 All go to one place: all are from the dust, and all return to dust. 21 Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward, and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth?
Numbers 27:16 (KJV)
16 Let the Lord, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation,
1 Corinthians 15:35-58(KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds
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Its a difficult question to answer. Everyone would like to think that their Pets live on and will be reunited with us in heaven.
But what about the rest of the animal kingdom?
Will rats go to heaven? How about flies and scorpions? Snakes leave a big question mark, pet ones in particular.
Animals are morally neutral and were given the breath of life as we were originally they could be said to be our Angels.
God has dominion over his angels and we were given it over nature. In the New Heaven and earth we are restored to the position we had before the fall so there would have to be animals to rule over but whether they will be our own furry friends remains to be seen.
But what about the rest of the animal kingdom?
Will rats go to heaven? How about flies and scorpions? Snakes leave a big question mark, pet ones in particular.
Animals are morally neutral and were given the breath of life as we were originally they could be said to be our Angels.
God has dominion over his angels and we were given it over nature. In the New Heaven and earth we are restored to the position we had before the fall so there would have to be animals to rule over but whether they will be our own furry friends remains to be seen.