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So if they were saved, is God also making a comment about the hope for all the human race through the fact that they sinned a sin that got us to where we are today, but still have eternity with God? So does that tie into the tree of life and the first sin?
Or if they are not saved, what is the message, if there is one.
Or if they are not saved, what is the message, if there is one.
T
Hebrews 11:4
By faith Abel offered to God a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous, God commending him by accepting his gifts. And through his faith, though he died, he still speaks.
Who taught Abel to walk in God's ways? Adam and Eve.
Genesis 3:26
To Seth also a son was born, and he called his name Enosh. At that time people began to call upon the name of the Lord.
Who taught Seth and his people to call upon the name of the LORD?
By faith Abel offered to God a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous, God commending him by accepting his gifts. And through his faith, though he died, he still speaks.
Who taught Abel to walk in God's ways? Adam and Eve.
Genesis 3:26
To Seth also a son was born, and he called his name Enosh. At that time people began to call upon the name of the Lord.
Who taught Seth and his people to call upon the name of the LORD?
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T
Again I would say that regardless of how righteously one walks ... salvation is still based on our belief that Jesus died and rose again ... and is the ONLY way to the Father. The covering of His blood is what reconciles us to God.
I don't think there is a way to know if they were saved or not ... we are not given that information.
I don't think there is a way to know if they were saved or not ... we are not given that information.
T
Sorry about the GMT nonsense. I've deleted it from my post.
As for people being saved through Christ and Him crucified, that's true. But it's also true that the people of God prior to Jesus coming to earth were also saved. It's not a given that Adam and Eve were saved but there's a good chance that they were.
As for people being saved through Christ and Him crucified, that's true. But it's also true that the people of God prior to Jesus coming to earth were also saved. It's not a given that Adam and Eve were saved but there's a good chance that they were.
R
Good point. Interesting what we see in the Word about Cain in the NT:
"Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous." 1 John 3:12
We see the lineage of the righteous in Abel(replaced by Seth-Gen 4:25), see Luke 3:23-38 to see this earthly lineage point to Christ Himself.
The lineage of Cain is of the wicked one. The seed of the wicked shall be cut off(Psa 37:28)
Eve also changed the emphatic thou shalt surely die of Gen 2:17 to the ambiguous lest ye die of Gen 3:3.
God also told Adam he may freely eat of every tree of the garden. Eve omitted the word "freely" in her discussion with satan.
As far as whether Adam and Eve were saved. I believe they were. As discussed, they did teach their children. By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain ... (Heb 11:4). Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God (Rom 10:17). And Seth is mentioned in the Christ line in Luke 3:38.
Even before Adam sinned, God wrote the story of redemption in the stars (Gen 1:14 – let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years). God's Word is (and always has been) passed from generation to generation through the teaching of parents to children. We now have the written Word, but from Adam to Moses redemption written in the heavens was the story told from generation to generation. Of course, that truth has been corrupted by the father of lies into what we now know as astrology.
Interesting that the maji saw His star and came to Jerusalem to worship Him (Matt 2:2). Those who should have known that Messiah had come were completely oblivious. And to whom did God announce the birth of His son? Shepherds (Luke 2:8-20). I love God's Word. So much to behold!
God also told Adam he may freely eat of every tree of the garden. Eve omitted the word "freely" in her discussion with satan.
As far as whether Adam and Eve were saved. I believe they were. As discussed, they did teach their children. By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain ... (Heb 11:4). Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God (Rom 10:17). And Seth is mentioned in the Christ line in Luke 3:38.
Even before Adam sinned, God wrote the story of redemption in the stars (Gen 1:14 – let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years). God's Word is (and always has been) passed from generation to generation through the teaching of parents to children. We now have the written Word, but from Adam to Moses redemption written in the heavens was the story told from generation to generation. Of course, that truth has been corrupted by the father of lies into what we now know as astrology.
Interesting that the maji saw His star and came to Jerusalem to worship Him (Matt 2:2). Those who should have known that Messiah had come were completely oblivious. And to whom did God announce the birth of His son? Shepherds (Luke 2:8-20). I love God's Word. So much to behold!
What He did was banish A&E from the garden and placed cherubim to guard the way to the Tree of Life, so that yes, they could not eat from it and live forever in their fallen state. Now we have Jesus Christ made available to all, and those who accept His propitiatory sacrifice on our behalf pass from the death of Adam into eternal life through the second Adam's resurrection. Jesus holds the keys to life, after all; in Him we live and move and have our being. He is the author, creator, and giver of life. 
After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.