Do you really believe and are you really saved?
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Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened.
For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.
(1 Corinthians 5:7)
For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.
(1 Corinthians 5:7)
i noticed this the other day -- speaking to believers not only in sin, but boasting over it.
Paul doesn't call them leavened -- but tells them to take out the leaven because they really are unleavened.
to me, that really drove home the truth of what you guys are saying here
and that's peace that can scarcely be understood.
or am i reading this wrong? what do you think? i also happen to be blonde, ha!
Cleansing out the old leaven is in reference to doing away with your old self and how you previously walked.
Until a person stops walking in deliberate sin they will remain a slave to that unrighteousness, and can not come to the full knowledge and salvation through Jesus Christ.
This verse is also in context in this whole chapter where Paul is stating that if one who considers themselves a believer in Christ but does not want to give up their sinful ways they are to be cast out of the church. Left into the hands of the sinful world (handed over to satan for the destruction of the flesh) to let them fall to where hopefully they will see the error in their ways and repent.
If you allow the willful sinner to remain among the group he could easily lead others down this false way of living and back to condemnation under the law. Apostle James clarifies this to and says those who are brethren and wanders away from the faith in Jesus Christ, only if they are brought back will their soul be saved.
K
Actually it is based on scripture rather you agree with it or not;
[h=1]James 5:19-20New King James Version (NKJV)[/h][h=3]Bring Back the Erring One[/h]19Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul[a] from death and cover a multitude of sins.
God is the only one who can destroy the soul by casting it into the lake of fire, and James clearly shows here that if a person falls away from the faith their soul is not saved. It is not saved unless they come back to the Lord.
I do bet several in here have worn bullet proof jackets...
I´m also sure there are some ppl here who might have claimed "I´m saved" but it is seen a bullet hit their head and end up dead (or hurt).
I decided to pay heed on Jesus´ word (to please Him and God, the Father):
Mat 7:21 Not everyone who calls me their Lord will get into the kingdom of heaven. Only the ones who obey my Father in heaven will get in.
I´m also sure there are some ppl here who might have claimed "I´m saved" but it is seen a bullet hit their head and end up dead (or hurt).
I decided to pay heed on Jesus´ word (to please Him and God, the Father):
Mat 7:21 Not everyone who calls me their Lord will get into the kingdom of heaven. Only the ones who obey my Father in heaven will get in.
Sir, you hit the nail right on the head.
That is the point I was trying to get across without saying it outright.
Our foundation is in Jesus, and what is Jesus. He IS the word of God, also know as the immovable rock. We are told to dig deep and lay our foundation in the said rock, that when the storms of life come, we would not fall like the ones who built their house on the sand.
The sand being, life's experiences and what the five physical senses dictate.
When we look to the word of God, we are looking at Jesus. If we look at things in the natural and believe what we see, feel, hear, and the like, then we will fall. It's just that simple.
That is the point I was trying to get across without saying it outright.
Our foundation is in Jesus, and what is Jesus. He IS the word of God, also know as the immovable rock. We are told to dig deep and lay our foundation in the said rock, that when the storms of life come, we would not fall like the ones who built their house on the sand.
The sand being, life's experiences and what the five physical senses dictate.
When we look to the word of God, we are looking at Jesus. If we look at things in the natural and believe what we see, feel, hear, and the like, then we will fall. It's just that simple.
S
19-20 My dear friends, if you know people who have wandered off from God’s truth, don’t write them off. Go after them. Get them back and you will have rescued precious lives from destruction and prevented an epidemic of wandering away from God.
Kind of gives a different perspective on it doesn't it?
Kind of gives a different perspective on it doesn't it?
What you have said is a true statement. It is very clear in scripture. Salvation is given when you agree with and believe the gospel. Then and only then is the seed/offspring of God's word planted in your heart. If you were to reject the word of God later, then you will have rejected the Spirit of Truth, and the bible says, can two walk together except they be agreed? If you reject the gospel/truth/word of God, then God will not walk with you or stay with you.
Again, it is conditional.
Again, it is conditional.
The only reason you are called a son of God is because of the seed/Spirit of Christ that is in you. Reject the Spirit or the gospel/seed and you are a son no more.
Mat 13:5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
Mat 13:6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
Mat 13:20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Mat 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. Luke
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Notice that the seed died shortly after it was planted and the person fell away.
Also take note that God's love toward you is conditional.
Mat 13:5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
Mat 13:6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
Mat 13:20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Mat 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. Luke
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Notice that the seed died shortly after it was planted and the person fell away.
Also take note that God's love toward you is conditional.
Joh 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
I already posted it, but I'll do it again for you.
It's right there, God's love is conditional toward you even as it was conditional toward Jesus.
The condition being, to keep God's commandments.
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
I already posted it, but I'll do it again for you.
It's right there, God's love is conditional toward you even as it was conditional toward Jesus.
The condition being, to keep God's commandments.
