Does religion freedom legitimize discrimination?
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sinners who truly repent(which is rare), don't care what the judgment is - they know they are saved from sure death and condemnation and they agree that having idols, or adultery, or perversion, or stealing IS SIN and they repent of it once and for all completely forever (true repentance) --
so if a pervert repents, he or she agrees with yahweh that they did deserve punishment as guilty and death as guilty ,
and they agree that yahweh is perfect and just and righteous, and that yahshua died painfully in their place bearing the judgement that they rightly deserved.
if anyone defends sin or in any way thinks it is okay, they have no part in yahweh and he does not hear their prayer, as it is written.
so if a pervert repents, he or she agrees with yahweh that they did deserve punishment as guilty and death as guilty ,
and they agree that yahweh is perfect and just and righteous, and that yahshua died painfully in their place bearing the judgement that they rightly deserved.
if anyone defends sin or in any way thinks it is okay, they have no part in yahweh and he does not hear their prayer, as it is written.
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I actually know they do it to demonize those who disagree with justifying the lifestyle, and so they heap abuse on those would speak up concerning the same.
Its just you are not ever called a fornicator-phobe when you adress fornication, or an adulterer-phobe in adressing that or a thief-a- phobe or murderer-a-phobe (etc, etc) but just a homo-phobe. Its like this campaign of heaping abuse on those who didnt make the rules, just the messengers of the same.
Notable anger at calling it for what it is as John the baptist lost his head over adressing Herods "alternative lifestyle" with Herodias. Nowadays it just goes after you and tries to make it look as if you have the problem for not being hip with the times and on the train with everyone else (like holywood) who is promoting it which makes you the strange one (in some phobic nut case sense of things). Like somehow your afraid of what is coined alternative lifestyle choice (rather then the lusts of the flesh) in the unnatural sense. Something is wrong with you (in otherwords) for adressing it (rather then accepting it). Not calling it was it is amongst the same like things. There is no difference, its highlighted because no one tries to justify the other things (to the world) just to themselves (for the most part).
Its just you are not ever called a fornicator-phobe when you adress fornication, or an adulterer-phobe in adressing that or a thief-a- phobe or murderer-a-phobe (etc, etc) but just a homo-phobe. Its like this campaign of heaping abuse on those who didnt make the rules, just the messengers of the same.
Notable anger at calling it for what it is as John the baptist lost his head over adressing Herods "alternative lifestyle" with Herodias. Nowadays it just goes after you and tries to make it look as if you have the problem for not being hip with the times and on the train with everyone else (like holywood) who is promoting it which makes you the strange one (in some phobic nut case sense of things). Like somehow your afraid of what is coined alternative lifestyle choice (rather then the lusts of the flesh) in the unnatural sense. Something is wrong with you (in otherwords) for adressing it (rather then accepting it). Not calling it was it is amongst the same like things. There is no difference, its highlighted because no one tries to justify the other things (to the world) just to themselves (for the most part).
yes, they 'demoniΩed' even the messiah sent from yahweh, and sometimes today they do the same to various ones,
but importantly it is because they ARE CONTROLLED BY DEMONS no matter what they say --- even if they
speak oh so politely or 'politically correct' --- they are always controlled by demons. even if they do not 'demonize' someone else....
the whole world, every person, is , controlled by the prince of the power of the air(realizing yahweh's in charge over all), even believers are, until they are purchased by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.
but importantly it is because they ARE CONTROLLED BY DEMONS no matter what they say --- even if they
speak oh so politely or 'politically correct' --- they are always controlled by demons. even if they do not 'demonize' someone else....
the whole world, every person, is , controlled by the prince of the power of the air(realizing yahweh's in charge over all), even believers are, until they are purchased by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.
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You are not asking me about my thoughts (even here)
You been chasing after me posting things from one thread into other threads seeking my attention to continue to chat with me on what I did not wish to continue with you on previously.
And now you are posting links in different langages to me?
Please dont tell me you really want my thoughts when you do that, even when all you have been doing is seeking is my attention through these strange tactics you are employing.
This is just weird to be honest with you.
You been chasing after me posting things from one thread into other threads seeking my attention to continue to chat with me on what I did not wish to continue with you on previously.
And now you are posting links in different langages to me?
Please dont tell me you really want my thoughts when you do that, even when all you have been doing is seeking is my attention through these strange tactics you are employing.
This is just weird to be honest with you.
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Love is always unconditional and will always discriminate between good and evil. It is the nature of God's love to do so. There is a difference between that which is pure in heart and corruption. There is a difference between humility and pride, being found faithful and being reckless, walking in light or walking in darkness etc. We can chose between life and death and when we choose life we discriminate against death. Our love will befriend those who are troubled with sin but there will be a point where those we befriend will be offended if they do not receive grace through the cross of Christ. We discriminate for righteousness against that which is unrighteous that we might live in peace. Discrimination against others is not judging them when we have the grace of God to met and supply their need.
Our religious freedom in this country is the ability to practice what we believe. This ability will always be discriminated against with words, deeds and actions and yes, even conspiracies. There will always be those who are searching out wrong-doings and things that can be used to incriminate the freedom we have in Christ. That freedom and liberty can not be used for evil purposes but for the goodness of God and to do good. Practicing honor killings under the banner of religious freedom is first degree murder and should be discriminated against. The practice of adultery, fornication and homosexual behavior is not part of any religious freedom we have in Christ and should be discriminated against. Bearing a false witness against others and being critical and negative in our homes against those who we are to pray for is not part of religious freedom.
When our religious freedoms and liberties, which we have been given, are inhibited in any way, we have the right to defend what we believe in wisdom and with gracious words and not with condemnation. We also have the freedom to use the rights we have as citizens and utilize the constitutional laws that our citizenship falls under, to defend our religious freedom as a person and as a productive individual within our citizenship.
Our religious freedom in this country is the ability to practice what we believe. This ability will always be discriminated against with words, deeds and actions and yes, even conspiracies. There will always be those who are searching out wrong-doings and things that can be used to incriminate the freedom we have in Christ. That freedom and liberty can not be used for evil purposes but for the goodness of God and to do good. Practicing honor killings under the banner of religious freedom is first degree murder and should be discriminated against. The practice of adultery, fornication and homosexual behavior is not part of any religious freedom we have in Christ and should be discriminated against. Bearing a false witness against others and being critical and negative in our homes against those who we are to pray for is not part of religious freedom.
When our religious freedoms and liberties, which we have been given, are inhibited in any way, we have the right to defend what we believe in wisdom and with gracious words and not with condemnation. We also have the freedom to use the rights we have as citizens and utilize the constitutional laws that our citizenship falls under, to defend our religious freedom as a person and as a productive individual within our citizenship.
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The first time that word (homophobe) was used was in a homosexual publication and written by a homosexual. The first definition was all people who aren't homosexuals. Needing more people to agree with LBGT, they tightened it down to all those who disagree with homosexuality. PR and a legal stash fund to rival the federal budget is working great for them.
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I've got to totally disagree on two seperate concepts you gave:
1. Love is always unconditional? Really, really not. God's love was on the condition of total purity. Since we couldn't and wouldn't, his love comes at the cost of Jesus on that cross. Really big condition.
2. Yes, we Americans can go to the Constitution and scream about our rights all we want. Only the rich can take it to court. That's part of the plan on the LBGT agenda. They've got big pockets from big supporters. The small business person usually does not. (That and not all Christians are Americans.)
1. Love is always unconditional? Really, really not. God's love was on the condition of total purity. Since we couldn't and wouldn't, his love comes at the cost of Jesus on that cross. Really big condition.
2. Yes, we Americans can go to the Constitution and scream about our rights all we want. Only the rich can take it to court. That's part of the plan on the LBGT agenda. They've got big pockets from big supporters. The small business person usually does not. (That and not all Christians are Americans.)
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God is love, it is an attribute of God and all attributes are impersonal, meaning that God's love can not change and remains immutable, making His love unconditional. His love can not be changed by conditions, or standards of behavior. When God so loved the world he sent his Son. That love was immutable and has never changed from the beginning, even before sin entered into the world. When it pleased the Father to bruise his Son for the sin of the world, that was his justice. God is just, another attribute of God, and that justice was not altered by his love, rather it motivated God to do what he sent his Son to accomplish. There was no greater words that could have entered into the ears of God then to hear his Son say in (John 19:30), 'It is finished'.
Every person in this country can have representation if he/she needs it. We are individuals and have the right to free speech and expression. Some want to suppress these freedoms and incriminate those who offend. As a believer in Christ we are to live peaceably with all men as much as possible. We are speak evil of no man, but these do not restrain us from having religious freedom and the ability to express what we have been called by God to express through the gospel. We have a high and holy calling and when we execute that calling by faith, God has promise to go before us, to be with us and to back us up. We have greater confidence because of Him, his faithfulness and his mercy and grace.
These groups with deep pockets can lobby and use corruption in their favor all they want, but we are protected by the Almighty and we have a good conscience, grace in our hearts, the Holy Spirit within, sure promises and the wisdom of the God's word that provides all that we need. We need not be anxious for anything. We have been giving freedom for our calling (religion) that goes way beyond what has been provided by the Constitution. We don't abuse that freedom but we operate by faith in the Spirit and through obedience as we are lead by God. It will never be evil when we operate this way and if any is offended and call it evil then what (Isaiah 5:20-24) says is true.
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!
Every person in this country can have representation if he/she needs it. We are individuals and have the right to free speech and expression. Some want to suppress these freedoms and incriminate those who offend. As a believer in Christ we are to live peaceably with all men as much as possible. We are speak evil of no man, but these do not restrain us from having religious freedom and the ability to express what we have been called by God to express through the gospel. We have a high and holy calling and when we execute that calling by faith, God has promise to go before us, to be with us and to back us up. We have greater confidence because of Him, his faithfulness and his mercy and grace.
These groups with deep pockets can lobby and use corruption in their favor all they want, but we are protected by the Almighty and we have a good conscience, grace in our hearts, the Holy Spirit within, sure promises and the wisdom of the God's word that provides all that we need. We need not be anxious for anything. We have been giving freedom for our calling (religion) that goes way beyond what has been provided by the Constitution. We don't abuse that freedom but we operate by faith in the Spirit and through obedience as we are lead by God. It will never be evil when we operate this way and if any is offended and call it evil then what (Isaiah 5:20-24) says is true.
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!