DRUNK IN THE SPIRIT

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popeye

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Paul,after his encounter with Jesus,making him his lord ,had hands laid on him to receive the Holy Spirit.

Man,that is awful that demons enters him.

Where are the Pharisees when you need them. That horrendous experience Paul had could have been averted by you experts.

He could have learned never to seek the Holy Spirit,and just become mental and powerless like you experts
 
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Paul,after his encounter with Jesus,making him his lord ,had hands laid on him to receive the Holy Spirit.

Man,that is awful that demons enters him.

Where are the Pharisees when you need them. That horrendous experience Paul had could have been averted by you experts.

He could have learned never to seek the Holy Spirit,and just become mental and powerless like you experts
Can you imagine Paul having received the Holy Spirit or was saved on the road to Damascus? The other 2 that were with him, saw nothing. So who could bore witness that he was saved, and be used by God to serve as a minister to the Gentiles? See the reason why another disciple had to come and lay hands on Paul later on and also to receive his sight?

He was blind but now he can see because he was saved when he had received the promise of the Spirit by faith in Jesus Christ; not by sight of Jesus Christ in a vision.

Paul was not saved until he had received the promise of the Holy Spirit

Romans 8:[SUP]9 [/SUP]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
 
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Rather simple at the end of the Day...the Holy Spirit points us to Jesus and does not point to itself.....any who make more to do about the Spirit are not being led of the Spirit.....

The Spirit points us to Jesus. Always. The Spirit does not draw attention to himself, but he glorifies Jesus, and declares him to us (John 16:14). Confessing that Jesus Christ, God incarnate, came and died and rose for us is a work of the Spirit of God in us (1 John 4:2). The Holy Spirit never minimizes Christ by taking center stage for himself. Never. The Gospel is about the atoning work of Jesus Christ, enabled by the Father and proclaimed through the Spirit.
 

mailmandan

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I never said a thing about David or the Jews.....I suggest you go to bed and get some sleep, your reading in things not said nor implied......serious!

And your being accusatory.......<-----NOT RIGHT
I'm seeing a pattern here and this explains a lot. ;)
 
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First, I do believe that there is such a thing as drunk in the spirit, one of the last Pentecostal churches I attended was involved in it. I actually saw the Pastor run into a wall. On the other hand I see nothing in the bible that would tell me that the Spirit of God would do such a thing. Does anyone have experience in this area, also does anyone have scripture to back up the idea that drunk in the spirit is of God?
I have not found a better feeling on all this earth than to be drunk on the Holy Ghost. There is nothing like it nor can be compared to how good and wonderful it makes me feel. You are wasting your time trying to converse with them that have never experienced it.
 
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My point in bringing in this post was to warn Christians that not everything that glitters is gold, there is fool's gold and to the untrained eye it certainly seems like gold. Since Pentecostalism begin around 1906 there have been millions of professing Christians who have at times had great experiences with a spirit that they were sure was God, but just did not meet the scriptural definition of what the Holy Spirit would do. Many do not care if the bible does not support the spirit manifestations as being of God because they are having too much fun. They fail to recognize that the bible is full of folks who left God to be involved with false spirits...obviously they were having a great experience with these spirits. Just a warning, if you are in Pentecostalism be very careful what spirit you are following, do not go by experience, go by an honest appraisal of scripture.
 
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My point in bringing in this post was to warn Christians that not everything that glitters is gold, there is fool's gold and to the untrained eye it certainly seems like gold. Since Pentecostalism begin around 1906 there have been millions of professing Christians who have at times had great experiences with a spirit that they were sure was God, but just did not meet the scriptural definition of what the Holy Spirit would do. Many do not care if the bible does not support the spirit manifestations as being of God because they are having too much fun. They fail to recognize that the bible is full of folks who left God to be involved with false spirits...obviously they were having a great experience with these spirits. Just a warning, if you are in Pentecostalism be very careful what spirit you are following, do not go by experience, go by an honest appraisal of scripture.
I do have a problem with a fellowship which pursues an emotional sensation like
being drunk rather than walking in the Holy Spirit in purity love and holiness.

And these groups here on cc have often been the most vocal against foundational
realities of getting ones heart right with God and walking righteously.

This should tell everyone who follows and listens to Jesus, a feeling by itself is just
that, but some have convinced people the high people get is real dwelling with God.

You can end up listening to people who feed the feeling and not teaching from
the word of God, which has lead to so many heretical teachings of prosperity,
healing, shepherding, latter reign, dominionism, lawlessness, gnosticism.

But what justifies them is this feeling they share in worship, as if they can discern
truth through a feeling. I saw one "prophet" talking with the dead giving messages
to a congregation. Or a preacher saying some will call this blasphemy and then
blaspheming. If we care this little for truth and love, then God will let the deception
continue to its final end.
 

wolfwint

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I know that whenever I saw people speaking in a different language then I did - I never once thought they were drunk.

On the day of Pentecost - Peter said - These are not drunk "as you suppose". They were acting like drunk people in some of their minds that saw them coming out of the upper room. Of course there are some that mimic things and are doing things from the flesh too.

I have seen people mimic this and I have experienced being "drunk-like" too from being overwhelmed by the Holy Spirit and I have had times when I couldn't move a muscle so there are valid manifestations of the Spirit when it comes in contact with human flesh.

There are also immature Christians which work themselves up too but I wouldn't be too quick to throw the baby out with the dirty water either.


"I have had times when I couldn't move a muscle so there are valid manifestations of the Spirit when it comes in contact with human flesh. "

Really this reminds to spiritistic expieriences, but not expierience with the Holy Spirit! I cant renember that the bible teaches this kind of expieriences with the Holy Spirit and I also can not fund such an expierience with the apostles. Which would be the first which should got them.
 

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"I have had times when I couldn't move a muscle so there are valid manifestations of the Spirit when it comes in contact with human flesh. "

Really this reminds to spiritistic expieriences, but not expierience with the Holy Spirit! I cant renember that the bible teaches this kind of expieriences with the Holy Spirit and I also can not fund such an expierience with the apostles. Which would be the first which should got them.
1 Corinthians 14:[SUP]32[/SUP]And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.[SUP]33 [/SUP]For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Since temperance is a fruit of the Spirit which is self control, I believe the supernatural sensation of not being able to move is NOT a manifestation of the indwelling Holy Spirit, but another spirit that counters the fruit of the Spirit... if we accept it.

It happened to me on the day after a visit to Ernest Angeley Healing Crusade when I was in High School after I had come home from High School and needed a nap. I had prayed to Jesus for help, and slowly but surely the weight rolled off of me and I was able to move again.

I know that "science" has an explanation for it, but since it is connected to these events where they invoke what they believe to be the Holy Spirit to come to initiate healing, as confirmed by the response from another poster in this thread, science is just doing guesswork rather than detective work to determine the cause, but whereas the other poster confirms the connection, we disagree to the cause of it since he believes it is the Holy Spirit, whereas I do not, since now I know that the only way we can know the real Holy Spirit from the spirits of the antichrist outside of us in the world is to know Him as dwelling within us and has no need to refill us because He will never leave us. Whereas any other experience that is supernatural after a physical sign in the flesh rather than one by faith in Jesus Christ, is not of Him because that would present another calling and move believers away from their rest in Jesus Christ to hunger and thirst again for a filling that can only deny Him as having been filled by the Father as promised at their salvation.

Since we have been saved by faith in Jesus Christ and as the bride to the Bridegroom, we should be waiting for Him, and not going out to the market to seek to be filled again for whatever the reason, because then we are not ready for the Bridegroom. And we need His help to be ready and waiting for the Bridegroom.

It is an odd thing but many that seek after the Holy Spirit to fill themselves in seeking to be complete supernaturally will contend with the religious that seeks works by their merits and will power to complete themselves religiously. They will contend with the religious that they are saved and thus complete supernaturally as promised as saved, but yet will do the opposite supernaturally by seeking to be supernaturally refilled again and again to be complete or filled in Christ Jesus as saved.

Scary to see such double-mindedness, but then again, I was each of them before Jesus helped me to depart from both iniquity to rest in Him so as to be His disciple preaching Jesus Christ & Him crucified in seeking His glory and nothing else in His name since that is what it means to be His disciples rather than one of a church, or of men, or of seducing spirits or any other movement in His name when preaching the Jesus Christ, the Good News to man, is all we should be only preaching for that completeness in Christ and that rest in Him not only for salvation, but for living as His in following Him by faith alone..
 
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My point in bringing in this post was to warn Christians that not everything that glitters is gold, there is fool's gold and to the untrained eye it certainly seems like gold. Since Pentecostalism begin around 1906 there have been millions of professing Christians who have at times had great experiences with a spirit that they were sure was God, but just did not meet the scriptural definition of what the Holy Spirit would do. Many do not care if the bible does not support the spirit manifestations as being of God because they are having too much fun. They fail to recognize that the bible is full of folks who left God to be involved with false spirits...obviously they were having a great experience with these spirits. Just a warning, if you are in Pentecostalism be very careful what spirit you are following, do not go by experience, go by an honest appraisal of scripture.
Are you speaking from experience?
 

jerry2465

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I have not found a better feeling on all this earth than to be drunk on the Holy Ghost. There is nothing like it nor can be compared to how good and wonderful it makes me feel. You are wasting your time trying to converse with them that have never experienced it.
Hey BigJa, where do you go to church if you don't mind me asking?
 

jerry2465

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When you tell me the truth why you want to know then I will tell you.
I am asking you without any hidden motives or games, I simply would like to know. Will you say?
 
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I am asking you without any hidden motives or games, I simply would like to know. Will you say?
I do not believe you. I am a man of my word. You tell me why you asked me and if it is the truth then I will tell you where I go to church.
 

jerry2465

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I do not believe you. I am a man of my word. You tell me why you asked me and if it is the truth then I will tell you where I go to church.
I asked you because I would like to know, that's the truth, now you can tell me because you are a man of your word.
 

jerry2465

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It's quite ok if you would prefer not to say, its just a simple question.
 
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I asked you because I would like to know, that's the truth, now you can tell me because you are a man of your word.
I asked you why you wanted to know. I already knew you wanted to know. I already know why you want to know. I just wanted to see if you would tell me. In fact I knew you would ask me again.