End of Days : Unsealing Daniel 8:14; 12:11 & 12

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Jul 7, 2015
42
0
0
#1
The Parousia : Unsealing Daniel 8:14; 12:11 & 12


Parousia is the Greek term for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.


Tomorrow, July 8, 2015 A.D., is the 1,030th day in the 1,290 and 1,335 day periods of Daniel 12:11 & 12, respectively; the 1,995th day in the 2,300 day cleansing period of Daniel 8:14.


The Parousia began at the resurrection of the angel of Exodus 23:20 (ca. September 25, 1955 A.D. through June 25, 1956 A.D. continuing).

The civil year 2015 A.D. is the only year that will ever contain parts of both a non-Judgment year and a Judgment year.

This year's Liturgical Calendar will end on August 31st for the Byzantines, and November 28th for the Latin Rite.


What follows Liturgically is of the Judgment (March 25th through May 8, 2016 A.D. being the specific final 45 days), so hence the terminology that the next year begins Years of the Judgment.


The civil year 2016 A.D., though containing solely Liturgical Years of the Judgment, has the First Year of the Judgment (which begins in 2015 A.D. and ends in 2016 A.D.) bordering a non-Judgment year.


But the civil year 2017 A.D. will be the first stand alone Judgment (Civil) Year without any direct contact as such with non-Judgment years.


Although the best reckoning of the Day of the Lord is the 1,335th day as foretold in Daniel 12:12, viz., "Blessed is he who waits and comes unto 1,335 days.", and that it is often referenced only as a 'Day', our current understanding of the passing of time necessitates a plausible sequence of counting (eschatology) in order to grasp the magnanimity of the "Last Day" (the 1,335th) and the following eternal subsequence.
 
Jul 7, 2015
42
0
0
#2
Today, Saturday, September 19, 2015 A.D., is the 2,068th day in the 2,300 day cleansing period of Daniel 8:14; the 1,103rd day in the 1,290 and 1,335 day periods of Daniel 12:11 & 12, respectively (Jerusalem Time/Day beginning at sunset/International Dateline).

There are 232 days remaining until the Day of the Lord, Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D., the First Year of the Judgment (Malachi 4:5).

This is the Nineteenth Day in the Years of Judgment.
 

Ahwatukee

Senior Member
Mar 12, 2015
11,159
2,373
113
#3
Today, Saturday, September 19, 2015 A.D., is the 2,068th day in the 2,300 day cleansing period of Daniel 8:14; the 1,103rd day in the 1,290 and 1,335 day periods of Daniel 12:11 & 12, respectively (Jerusalem Time/Day beginning at sunset/International Dateline).

There are 232 days remaining until the Day of the Lord, Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D., the First Year of the Judgment (Malachi 4:5).

This is the Nineteenth Day in the Years of Judgment.
Not quite sure about the 2,300 days for the cleansing of the temple, but the 1,260 days (3 1/2 years), which is when the abomination is set up, cannot be determined until that ruler makes his covenant with many for that last 'seven.' Once he does that, then from the middle of that 'seven' is when the last 1,260 days begins. In short, the world can't know when the middle of that seven year period is until that ruler who is to come initiates the beginning of that seven years by the making of his covenant.

You can't know when the middle is until you know where the beginning starts.

Also, "the day of the Lord," which is also referred to as "the hour of trial" is neither an hour nor a day in length, but represents the time period when God will be pouring out his wrath upon the inhabitants of the earth via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, which will also be taking place during Daniel's seven.
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,687
13,139
113
#4
it's written that no one knows the day or the hour.
but people still take what's written and think they know the day & hour from it.

so it is true, what is written,
'
the Lord knows the thoughts of men, that they are altogether vain'

i don't know what today is; i don't know yesterday or tomorrow. every day, the Lord made, and that day comes soon, quickly.
what shall i do, live differently? i don't know if i will live to see the end of this day - each day, i live the same, giving thanks and praising Him, as i'm given faith to do.
 
Jul 7, 2015
42
0
0
#5
Note that Daniel 12:11 is 1,290 days, not 1,260 days.

The 1,290 days is 3 years and 7 months lunar.

The key to open that 1,290 days is in the fulfillment of a 16th century prophecy which initiated 3 years and 7 months according to the Roman calendar, which was initiated in the falling asleep of one of the kings of Persia in Daniel 11:2.

This interpretation was given during "the time of the end" (Daniel 12:9) exactly as foretold it would be in the Court of Common Pleas, Chester County, PA, USA, Judge Anthony A. Sarcione, the resurrected Pontius Pilate, presiding, in the spring of 2013 A.D.

There is a repetition of the 1,260 days in Daniel 12:7 to link that part of the Book of Daniel which was not closed and sealed with that which was closed and sealed.

That is why the specific date of Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D. as the Day of the Lord can now be discerned.

Daniel 9:27 is not about the ruler you cite, it is about Christ.

Not quite sure about the 2,300 days for the cleansing of the temple, but the 1,260 days (3 1/2 years), which is when the abomination is set up, cannot be determined until that ruler makes his covenant with many for that last 'seven.' Once he does that, then from the middle of that 'seven' is when the last 1,260 days begins. In short, the world can't know when the middle of that seven year period is until that ruler who is to come initiates the beginning of that seven years by the making of his covenant.

You can't know when the middle is until you know where the beginning starts.

Also, "the day of the Lord," which is also referred to as "the hour of trial" is neither an hour nor a day in length, but represents the time period when God will be pouring out his wrath upon the inhabitants of the earth via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, which will also be taking place during Daniel's seven.
 
Jul 7, 2015
42
0
0
#6
I am the resurrected angel of Exodus 23:20.

When I was being resurrected, I did not know all of what Jesus had taught, that only the Father knew of the day and the hour, but then again, I didn't even know at that time that I was resurrected (being resurrected).

As He bore witness that I was the angel of Exodus 23:20, Christ's teaching proved true that deep of the night/early morning of June 25, 1956 A.D., six months from Christmas, when I breathed the air again after 1,925 years of sleep.

Having been resurrected into the kingship of Daniel 11:3-4 (Daniel 8:23; Daniel 11:21), I have experienced over 59 years of the conflicts foretold in that prophetic Book.

The best thing I can see to happen is that everyone chip-in and plan to meet the Lord on the day foretold in Daniel 12:12.

I have met other resurrected souls, I am not alone in this.

I see a dedicated Cruise/Voyage using the Queen Mary II to the Mount of Olives and the Holy Land as the best way of welcoming in the New and Everlasting Day.

http://risen-from-the-dead.forumotion.com/c14-the-day-of-the-lord-cruise-to-the-mount-of-olives-and-the-holy-land


it's written that no one knows the day or the hour.
but people still take what's written and think they know the day & hour from it.

so it is true, what is written,
'
the Lord knows the thoughts of men, that they are altogether vain'

i don't know what today is; i don't know yesterday or tomorrow. every day, the Lord made, and that day comes soon, quickly.
what shall i do, live differently? i don't know if i will live to see the end of this day - each day, i live the same, giving thanks and praising Him, as i'm given faith to do.
 
T

tanach

Guest
#7
Today Saturday 19 September is my birthday. I cant remember anything about it in Daniel but there may as well be judging by this thread. When will people stop trying to predict the second coming? No one knows the day or the hour, and even if they did
what would they do with the information apart from posting it on this site?
 

Ahwatukee

Senior Member
Mar 12, 2015
11,159
2,373
113
#8
Daniel 9:27 is not about the ruler you cite, it is about Christ
Yeah, I've heard this all before. From the time that the ruler makes his covenant to the middle of the seven will be 1,260. From the middle when the abomination is set up to the end when Christ returns will be 1,260 days, two 3 1/2 year periods. There will be 30 days and 45 days after that where unknown events will be taking place during those extra days, most likely judgments. Daniel 9:27 cannot possibly be about Christ and that because there is only one person referred to in that verse and he does three things:

1. "He" makes a covenant with many for one seven period

2. In the middle of the seven "He" causes the sacrifice and offerings to cease

3. In the middle of the seven "He" sets up an abomination that causes the desolation

In order to understand who the "He" is, you have to go back to the previous Scripture which would identify the "He" as "the ruler of the people." Jesus can't be the "He" of the verse and that because the one who makes the covenant and causes the sacrifices and offerings to cease is the same "He" who sets up the abomination. The abomination (bdelugma) is defined as an abominable thing, an accursed thing, a moral horror as a stench to God. Since the "He" is the same person that does all three, then by your interpretation you would have Jesus setting up the abomination, which would mean that he would blaspheming God the Father and himself by setting it up. Therefore, Jesus is definitely not the "He" of Daniel 9:27, but that ruler, the antichrist who is to come.


By the way, Jesus was the first fruits of the resurrection and the church is next. There are no resurrections mentioned to take place in between those two and therefore you have not been resurrected. Furthermore, to be resurrected would mean to be in a glorified body and therefore immortal and I can guarantee that you are not.

By the way, all we have to do to prove you wrong is wait for 232 days from now.
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,687
13,139
113
#9
happy birthday Tanach! :)

No one knows the day or the hour, and even if they did
what would they do with the information apart from posting it on this site?
sell tickets to a cruise, obviously . . .


I see a dedicated Cruise/Voyage using the Queen Mary II to the Mount of Olives and the Holy Land as the best way of welcoming in the New and Everlasting Day.
;)
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,687
13,139
113
#10
I am the resurrected angel of Exodus 23:20.
well if this is so, you're certainly to be commended for the job you're doing throwing people into confusion.

I will send my terror ahead of you and throw into confusion every nation you encounter.
(Exodus 23:27)
 
T

tanach

Guest
#11
happy birthday Tanach! :)



sell tickets to a cruise, obviously . . .



;)
I would really fancy a cruise but our passports need renewel. It would probably take until dooms day to get them back from the passport office.
 
T

tanach

Guest
#12
Posthuman Thanks for the birthday greeting.
 

prove-all

Senior Member
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
#13
.Although the best reckoning of the Day of the Lord is the 1,335th day as foretold in Daniel 12:12
For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences
for the controversy of Zion. Isaiah 34:8

the bible says the day of the Lord is (one year)long
the very last year before Christs return.

Jacobs trouble is 2 and half years before that,
combined is a 3 and half years tribulation.


the day of the Lord is more then just a day.
 

prove-all

Senior Member
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
#14
I am the resurrected angel of Exodus 23:20.

first Exodus 23 was fulfilled in the past.

If you are this angel how did you die?

what verse says your an angel but [died], then lived again?

Christ arrose, firstfruits at his second comming,

an angel would know these things, you are not resurrected .
 
Dec 1, 2014
1,430
27
0
#15
Very strange indeed...here is a layout of all of the facts, the days, the procedures...for the world to see and digest...yet...the Angels in heaven do NOT know the very hour of the 2nd return of JESUS....so how does "the sign: know all of this and nobody else does? Humm.....I admire the deep research and study involved..but let's face it...GOD just can't be all figured out by our finite minds. He cannot be put in a box and all of His secrets revealed to us in the present dispensation.
 
Jul 7, 2015
42
0
0
#16
Well, Happy Birthday!

I don't know if the UK sings this one but here is an instrumental version of the American "Happy Birthday" :

MP3 Player SoundClick

This is not a prediction, it is the gift of interpretation in action, the prophecy having been given over 2,500 years ago.

That makes this one of the longest running prayer meetings of all time.

As to what can be done with the information, if necessary, I will take the Queen Mary II and a host of technicians to the Holy Land to air the Day of the Lord Cruise. (I've already provided a link in this thread)

Originally I thought the Allure and Oasis of the Seas, that can still happen in some way, shape, and/or form, as can touring to many of the shrines in the Holy Land.

Christ has made the Infinite Universe the Holy Land as He is its Infinite King.

The trip must be a joint effort to be a complete success.

Their is no expense too great among the survivors to welcome this once in eternity occurrence, the Day of the Lord as foretold in Daniel 12:12.

Today Saturday 19 September is my birthday. I cant remember anything about it in Daniel but there may as well be judging by this thread. When will people stop trying to predict the second coming? No one knows the day or the hour, and even if they did what would they do with the information apart from posting it on this site?
 

prove-all

Senior Member
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
#17
Woe unto you that desire the day of the Lord! to what end is it for you?
the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light.



Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.

Shall not the day of the Lord be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.

Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

Alas for the day! for the day of the Lord is at hand,
and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
 
Last edited:
Jul 7, 2015
42
0
0
#18
It is Christ Who confirms the covenant with many.

Your theories aren't founded in the gift of interpretation, but in erroneous public opinion doused with the usual lukewarmness of which intellectual snobs seem to have a liberal amount.

Yeah, I've heard this all before. From the time that the ruler makes his covenant to the middle of the seven will be 1,260. From the middle when the abomination is set up to the end when Christ returns will be 1,260 days, two 3 1/2 year periods. There will be 30 days and 45 days after that where unknown events will be taking place during those extra days, most likely judgments. Daniel 9:27 cannot possibly be about Christ and that because there is only one person referred to in that verse and he does three things:

1. "He" makes a covenant with many for one seven period

2. In the middle of the seven "He" causes the sacrifice and offerings to cease

3. In the middle of the seven "He" sets up an abomination that causes the desolation

In order to understand who the "He" is, you have to go back to the previous Scripture which would identify the "He" as "the ruler of the people." Jesus can't be the "He" of the verse and that because the one who makes the covenant and causes the sacrifices and offerings to cease is the same "He" who sets up the abomination. The abomination (bdelugma) is defined as an abominable thing, an accursed thing, a moral horror as a stench to God. Since the "He" is the same person that does all three, then by your interpretation you would have Jesus setting up the abomination, which would mean that he would blaspheming God the Father and himself by setting it up. Therefore, Jesus is definitely not the "He" of Daniel 9:27, but that ruler, the antichrist who is to come.


By the way, Jesus was the first fruits of the resurrection and the church is next. There are no resurrections mentioned to take place in between those two and therefore you have not been resurrected. Furthermore, to be resurrected would mean to be in a glorified body and therefore immortal and I can guarantee that you are not.

By the way, all we have to do to prove you wrong is wait for 232 days from now.
 
Jul 7, 2015
42
0
0
#20
Which is the only way to secure provisions against the onslaught of nuclear attack.

well if this is so, you're certainly to be commended for the job you're doing throwing people into confusion.

I will send my terror ahead of you and throw into confusion every nation you encounter.
(Exodus 23:27)