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JaumeJ

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Please consider this possibility.

Come the beast money will be replaced by some kind of credit/debit system in which only those who belong to the beast may participate.

If the world monetary systems are no more it can only be because the currencies of this age have been rendered worthless, useless.

This has been being brought on by the wealthy of this age, the banking industry, industry in general, and governments.

After the above-mentioned have driven tha masses into abject poverty it will dawn on the greedy ones what they have done. What do you suppose it will be that they have done? They will have been the moving force behing makin all currencies worthless.

Why and how? By accumulating all of the understood wealth of this age there will no longer exist a consumer base, that is all who need to buy to exist such things as food, shelter, clothing, health care, transportation. The consumer base will be powerless to continue supporting those greedy ones who are blinded by that greed.

I have been watching and waiting for this to possible be in my life time since I first came to believe many decades ago. I may not be in this age come the realization of this horrible reality, but I know I have witnessed most of its mechanism being set into place, not by God, but by mankind. God only foretells us these events because He knows well His creation and His creatures when they act with no regard to Him

Praise God Almighty for Jesus Christ is certainly returning soon, amen. God bless all, amen.
 

Ahwatukee

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Once more, there were ten horns, while the European Community consists of 28 member countries. It just will not coincide with the prophesy no matter how hard one squeezes........
Yeah I agree. That ten-toed kingdom with their ten kings will not show up until that beast is revealed.
 

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Once more, there were ten horns, while the European Community consists of 28 member countries. It just will not coincide with the prophesy no matter how hard one squeezes........
There is an idea circulating that that the Ten Horns are not individual Countries but ten world groups of countries and the EU was the first to be created. Another will be the North American Union consisting of the USA Canada and Mexico. The United Nations are said to be behind it all and have created Institutions such as the WHO and WTO which will bring it all together. This could be true seeing that the UN is the only body capable of creating a Global Empire at present. I dont believe that the EU are the Ten Toes partly for the reason you mentioned. I cant see it staying in its present form in any case but if the ten region theory is correct some form of the EU will remain.
 

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I have been saying that England would leave the EU for years. They are brother Ephraim and are to be punished by the Assyrians (modern day Germany) and the ten kings of the last resurrection of the Holy Roman Empire...
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My feeling also, since we are both Joseph's children per Bible prophecy like you say. I think some leaders in England always understood that some Weishaupt type followers always were behind the European Coal and Steel Community.

I don't see the ten kings coming out of the old Roman empire though. If that were true, then it would leave out the rest of the nations outside the West.

I think the globalist's tri-parte plan for creating a one-world government with the earth sectioned off into 3 main parts is still in place.

Per Isaiah 10, the historical king of Assyria came upon Jerusalem from the north in stages, which that chapter gives his route. So the main siege is still to be upon Jerusalem in the middle east for the last days.
 

DP

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I think it important to remember the signs for the end, which Biblically are somewhat different than what many Churches preach about the end.

In the Book of Daniel about the coming Antichrist, i.e., the "little horn" or "vile person", it says craft is to prosper in his hand. And that he will destroy many by peace. In 1 Thess.5, Paul said when the world says, "Peace and safety", that is when the "sudden destruction" on the last day of this world will occur. And our Lord Jesus in Mark 13 told us to not be alarmed as long as we hear of wars and rumors of wars, because the end is not yet, meaning... the end will be a time of world peace and safety.

So I don't see utter chaos for the tribulation time, but instead an established world peace with all power under control by the Antichrist and his ten kings. It will be a literal one-world economy and government, which is exactly what the globalists and Communists have been dreaming of.

The Biblical picture of that time is false worship, and for those who fall to that it will mean peace and safety, a chicken in every pot. Your debts paid off, i.e., world socialism on a grand scale.
 

JaumeJ

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My inclination is simple; I must wait and see. In my life I have heard many people say many things about much, usually wrong. Thus I wait. I wait also because I know our Father will not leave us in the dark come time to know. Just as He told Daniel to seal up the prophesies for they are for a generation to come.........If I am of that generation, will undefrstand come the unfolding of the reality of them.


There is an idea circulating that that the Ten Horns are not individual Countries but ten world groups of countries and the EU was the first to be created. Another will be the North American Union consisting of the USA Canada and Mexico. The United Nations are said to be behind it all and have created Institutions such as the WHO and WTO which will bring it all together. This could be true seeing that the UN is the only body capable of creating a Global Empire at present. I dont believe that the EU are the Ten Toes partly for the reason you mentioned. I cant see it staying in its present form in any case but if the ten region theory is correct some form of the EU will remain.
 
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There is an idea circulating that that the Ten Horns are not individual Countries but ten world groups of countries and the EU was the first to be created. Another will be the North American Union consisting of the USA Canada and Mexico. The United Nations are said to be behind it all and have created Institutions such as the WHO and WTO which will bring it all together. This could be true seeing that the UN is the only body capable of creating a Global Empire at present. I dont believe that the EU are the Ten Toes partly for the reason you mentioned. I cant see it staying in its present form in any case but if the ten region theory is correct some form of the EU will remain.
That makes a lot of sense actually. Ten regions would network world power consolidation. All packaged and ready to be handed over to the AC. Just like hunger games or District 9.
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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My inclination is simple; I must wait and see. In my life I have heard many people say many things about much, usually wrong.
Same here, have been watching for decades. It seems the longer we watch and wait the better we get at eliminating the distractions vs actually finding the target info. You have to admit the mud is settling fast now.
 

john832

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Brother Ephraim? Punished by the Germans? Where in the world do you get your theology? On the back of a Corn flake Packet? We British are not Jewish but descended from a hotch potch of European peoples including Celts, Romans, Saxons, Vikings and Normans.

I concede that the EU is the latest attempt to rebuild the Roman Empire but there have been several other attempts in the past and all of them have failed one way or another. The last one being Nazi Germany, Whether the EU is the actual beast of Revelation is open to debate. Whatever it is present trends appear to be that it wont last. I dont think the UK will be the only member to leave.
My suggestion is that you simply sit back and see if Germany takes the lead and ends up involved in a ten nation combine that attacks and punishes the U.S, Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and to some extent South Africa. If this does not come to be in the next several years then we will be safe to assume I got my theology from the back of a Cornflakes box. If, however, we see a ten nation combine headed by Germany, led by a powerful governmental and military leader and empowered by the Pope, then perhaps you should start reading the Bible and skip the Cornflake boxes.
 

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[FOUR BEASTS] or kingdoms

[HEADs] of prophetic BABYLON

BEAST 1. head of gold. Chaldean Empire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Babylonian_Empire



1st HEAD of prophetic BABYLON
The CHALDEAN EMPIRE (Babylon) 625-539 B.C.


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BEAST 2. breast and arms of silver Medo-Persian Empire
Achaemenid Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire

2nd HEAD of prophetic BABYLON
The(Medo-Persia) 558-330 B.C.


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BEAST 3. belly and thighs of brass greco-macedonia
Alexander the Great https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great

3rd, - 4th, 5th, and 6th HEADS of BABYLON
GREECE, under Alexander the Great,
and four divisions, began 333 B.C.


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BEAST 4. the two legs of iron roman empire-capitals Rome and Constantinople.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire-

7th HEAD of BABYLON, with 10 HORNS
The ROMAN EMPIRE in two divisions,
West and East 31 B.C.-A.D. 476


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23Thus he said, [The fourth beast] shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth,
which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth,
and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.


Fall of the ROMAN EMPIRE A.D. 476


Revelation 13:3 (KJV)
And I saw one of his heads [as it were wounded to death]; and his deadly
wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.


Revelation 13:12 (KJV)
And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth
the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast,
whose deadly wound was healed.


Rome was dead , or destroyed, a wound to death, as it looked.
after that the ten horns that come out of Roman empire


24And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise:
and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first,
and he shall subdue three kings.

(first 3 horns)The three horns picture three governments
(the Heruli, the Vandals and the Ostrogoths)
and he shall subdue three kings.

The HERULI, Odoacer’s government, A.D. 476-493
Heruli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia,

The VANDALS A.D. 429-533
Vandals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia,

The OSTROGOTHS ,A.D. 493-554
Ostrogoths - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia,

The first 3 horns was not riden by the church,
they where not of rome, but ruled in its territory


(4th horn) a “little horn”—a great false church
coming on the scene after three horns are plucked up.
they took the image of the beast, in time healed its wound

The great church guided every succeeding resurrection of this Roman Empire
The last seven horns comprise a church-state relationship,

Holy Roman Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the(un)holy Roman Empire, which began in a.d. 554—led by Justinian,

I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints,
and prevailed against them;
 

JaumeJ

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Watching, waiting, and praying while always praising God, amen.-


Same here, have been watching for decades. It seems the longer we watch and wait the better we get at eliminating the distractions vs actually finding the target info. You have to admit the mud is settling fast now.
 

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The Bible does not mention the word Germany:

The Germans did not acquire that name until the Romans collectively
labeled them Germani almost 2,000 years ago.

In fact, the Germans refer to themselves as Deutsch, not German.
They call their beloved country Deutschland.

If we are to find the German people mentioned in the Bible,
it must be under some name other than what the Romans labeled them.

truth that modern-day Germany descended from the ancient Assyrians.
who are the Assyrians today? we need to go way back to its foundation.

“Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the
city Rehoboth, and Calah” that Asshur and Nimrod went out of
the land of Shinar to build Nineveh and other cities

“The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram.”
Asshur was a son of Shem, the father of the white racial strain -Genesis 10:22

—those of fair skin and lighter hair.
Notice that Arphaxad is listed in this verse as the third son of Shem.

Genesis 11:10: “These are the generations of Shem: Shem was an
hundred years old, and begat Arphaxad two years after the flood.”

Neither of Shem’s first two sons, Elam or Asshur, are mentioned!
That’s because they were rejected as the heirs of Shem’s inheritance.
Asshur parted with his father and became the progenitor of the Assyrian people.

Over 300 years later, Abraham, through whom God was to raise up His chosen
nation Israel, was begotten of the line of Arphaxad, the third son of Shem.


that Asshur, father of the Assyrians, and Arphaxad, whose line
Abraham descended from, both came from Shem.

This means that while there may be some distinguishable physical differences
between the Assyrians and Israelites, both peoples came from the fair-skinned,
white racial strain of Shem.

the historian Josephus recorded concerning Asshur:

“Shem, the third son of Noah, had five sons.…
Ashur lived at the city of Nieve; and named his subjects Assyrians,
who became the most fortunate nation, beyond others” (Antiquities, i, vi, 4).

Assyria quickly became the most prosperous, powerful nation of the day.
Abraham Defeats the Assyrians in Genesis 14:1-2:

“And it came to pass in the days of Amraphel king of Shinar,
Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of nations;


That these made war.…” These four kings were allied as a gigantic Assyrian empire,
as Josephus pointed out: “At this time, when the Assyrians had the dominion
over Asia, the people of Sodom were in a flourishing condition ….

[T]he Assyrians made war upon them; and, dividing their army into four parts,
fought against them. Now every part of the army had its own commander …
Amraphel, Arioch, Chodorlaomer and Tidal.

These kings had laid waste all Syria, and overthrown the offspring of the giants”
(Antiquities, i, ix, 1). Josephus confirmed that the four kings mentioned in Genesis
14 were in fact Assyrian.

Lange’s Commentary says, “According to Ktesias and others,
the Assyrians were the first to establish a world-dominion.”

The last king listed is Tidal, the “king of nations.” He ruled in the region
of Asia Minor. The name Tidal comes from a Hebrew word which means
“to fear, make afraid, dreadful and terrible.” For centuries, Assyria caused
many nations great fear!

These four Assyrian generals came to make war with the kings in Canaan.
The Assyrians routed the people of Canaan, including the cities of Sodom
and Gomorrah.

And in taking captives, they captured Abraham’s wealthy nephew, Lot .
“And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed
his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen,
and pursued them unto Dan.

And he divided himself against them, he and his servants, by night,
and smote them, and pursued them unto Hobah, which is on
the left hand of Damascus” (verses 14-15).

Josephus recorded that Abram and his men “marched hastily, and the
fifth night fell upon the Assyrians, near Dan…and before they could arm
themselves, he slew some as they were in their beds, before they could
suspect any harm; and others, who were not yet gone to sleep,
but were so drunk they could not fight, ran away”(Antiquities, i, x, 1).

that Abram also killed the four top leaders of the Assyrian empire,Gen 14:17
It was a complete rout. The power of Assyria was smashed in one night.
The course of history was changed. Abraham and his descendants were able
to continue living peacefully in the land of Canaan free from Assyrian aggression.

And Egypt, without the Assyrian threat, grew into one of the leading nations in
the ancient world. God wanted Egypt to dominate the Middle East, not Assyria.
Egypt, though the people didn’t know it at the time, was preparing for the arrival
of Joseph and the children of Israel.


For the next 1,200 years, the Bible says little about Assyria. But the Assyrians
did not disappear. Their resurgence around 700 b.c., once again as a world power,
proved to be yet another thorn in the Israelites’ side.
 

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[Fierceness] Virtually every historian draws attention to the war-like nature of
the Assyrian people. James McCabe, author of History of the World, says they
were a “fierce, treacherous race, delighting in the dangers of the chase and in war.

The Assyrian troops were notably among the most formidable of ancient warriors.
They never kept faith when it was to their interest to break treaties, and were
regarded with suspicion by their neighbors in consequence of this characteristic.

In organization and equipment of their troops, and in their system of attack and defense
and their method of reducing fortified places, the Assyrians manifested a superiority to
the nations by which they were surrounded.”


Dr. Herman Hoeh, historian and author of Compendium of World History, wrote,
“Ancient Assyria was the greatest war-making power in all history”.

James Hastings wrote, “The Assyrians of historic times were more robust, warlike,
‘fierce,’ than the mild industrial Babylonians. The whole organization of the state
was essentially military” (“Assyria and Babylonia,” Dictionary of the Bible).

Leonard Cottrell, in Anvil of Civilization, wrote: “In all the annals of human conquest,
it is difficult to find any people more dedicated to bloodshed and slaughter than
the Assyrians. Their ferocity and cruelty have few parallels save in modern times.”

It’s interesting that Catrell can only compare their ferocity with those “in modern times.”
Many would admit that in the 20th century the Germans were dedicated to much bloodshed.

After 800 b.c., Assyria was poised and ready to take the world by storm.
Its resurgence would soon clash head-on with the powerful Israelites.

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In his Compendium, Dr. Hoeh wrote, “In 745 a new dynasty sat upon the Assyrian
throne in Nineveh. It commenced with Tiglath-pileser iii. This dynasty existed to
the collapse of Assyria in 612? (Volume 1).

The Encyclopedia Britannica concurs with Dr. Hoeh’s synopsis:
“Under Tiglath-pileser iii arose the second Assyrian empire, which differed from
the first in its greater consolidation. For the first time in history the idea of centralization
was introduced into politics .… The Assyrian forces became a standing army, which, by
successive improvements and careful discipline, was molded into an irresistible fighting
machine, and Assyrian policy was directed towards the definite object of reducing the
whole civilized world into a single empire and thereby throwing its trade and wealth into
Assyrian hands” (“Babylonia and Assyria,” 11th edition).

some definite similarities between ancient Assyria and the modern-day Germany

Israel Taken Into Assyrian Captivity
2Kings 16, you will read of a war between Israel and the Jews.

Israel was allied with Aram (Syria).
Judah solicited the help of Tiglath-pileser, king of Assyria (2?Kings 16:7).
In defense of the Jews, the Assyrians attacked Aram first and Israel later.

In his 14th year of rule, Shalmaneser iii, Assyrian king at Calah, besieged the land
of Samaria, where the 10 tribes of Israel resided. The year was 721 b.c.

Notice 2 Kings 17:5-6: “Then the king of Assyria came up throughout all the land,
and went up to Samaria, and besieged it three years [721-718].

In the ninth year of Hoshea the king of Assyria took Samaria,
and carried Israel away into Assyria, and placed them in Halah and in Habor
by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes.”

Despite numerous warnings ,the people of Israel refused to turn from their
rebellion against God. It was God who sent the Assyrians as the rod of His
anger to take the Israelites into captivity (Isaiah 10:5).

They were removed out of their land. “For the children of Israel walked in all
the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them; Until the Lord
removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets.

So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day”
(2 Kings 17:22-23).

Josephus recorded that Shalmaneser “made an expedition against Samaria ..
besieged [it] three years and took it by force … and quite demolished the
government of the Israelites, and transplanted all the people into Media and Persia”
(Antiquities, ix, xiv, 1).

“In the years 721-718 b.c., the house of Israel was conquered and its people
were soon driven out of their own land—out of their homes and cities—
and carried captives to Assyria, on the southern shores of the Caspian Sea!

And then … lost from view!” become known as the “lost 10 tribes” of Israel.
Because scholars and historians also lost sight of the Assyrians!



And during captivity, Israel went into Assyria, located anciently at
the southern shores of the Black and Caspian seas.

the Assyrians, when they migrated northwest into Central Europe seperated,
the Assyrians mainly settled into Central Europe, where Germany and Austria
are located today. the Israelites did not remain as slaves of the Assyrians.

the children of Israel scattered into Western Europe,
the Scandinavian peninsula, and the British Isles.
 

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Before their migration, Periplus, who lived around 550 b.c., wrote,
“The coast of the Black Sea … is called Assyria” (Perrot and Chipiez,
History of Art in Sardinia, Judaea, Syria and Asia Minor, Volume 2).
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C. Leonard Woolley described what these people looked like in his book,
The Sumerians: “In the Zagros hills and across the plain to the Tigris,

there lived a … fair-haired … people akin to the Guti (Goths) who … remained
in what was afterwards Assyria.” This description certainly matches those who
descended from the line of Shem.

Here is what Dr. Herman Hoeh wrote: “When the ancient Greek writers wanted
to distinguish the Assyrians from the Arameans or Syrians, the Greeks called
the Assyrians ‘Leucosyri’—meaning ‘whites’ or ‘blonds,’ as distinct from the
very brunette Syrians who still live in Mesopotamia”


By the time of Christ, the Roman naturalist Pliny the Elder recorded that the
Assyrians were now dwelling north of the Black Sea (Natural History, iv, 12).
By this time, they had moved north.

The Assyrian Migration

Before their migration, Periplus, who lived around 550 b.c., wrote, “The coast of
the Black Sea … is called Assyria” (Perrot and Chipiez, History of Art in Sardinia,
Judaea, Syria and Asia Minor, Volume 2). C. Leonard Woolley described what these
people looked like in his book, The Sumerians:

“In the Zagros hills and across the plain to the Tigris, there lived a … fair-haired …
people akin to the Guti (Goths) who … remained in what was afterwards Assyria.”
This description certainly matches those who descended from the line of Shem.

Dr. Herman Hoeh wrote: “When the ancient Greek writers wanted to distinguish the
Assyrians from the Arameans or Syrians, the Greeks called the Assyrians ‘Leucosyri’
—meaning ‘whites’ or ‘blonds,’ as distinct from the very brunette Syrians
who still live in Mesopotamia”

By the time of Christ, the Roman naturalist Pliny the Elder recorded that the
Assyrians were now dwelling north of the Black Sea. By this time, they had
moved north. (Natural History, iv, 12)

“The Assyrians—before 604 b.c.—left their land north of Babylon and migrated northwest,
through the lands that are now Georgia, the Ukraine, Poland, and into the land that is called
Germany today. Today the descendants of those Assyrians are known to us as the German people.”

Tracing Germany’s Roots
For centuries, the German people have dominated the heartland of Central Europe.
Yet they are a people who know very little about their true origin—or at least refuse to know.
(The Germans themselves are responsible for hiding much of this knowledge, just as many tried
to hide their past at the end of the Hitler era.)

the German people today number well over 100 million people worldwide
—most of them residing in Germany and Austria.

Much was written about the early German tribes that poured into Europe during the first and
second centuries a.d., thanks in large part to the Roman historian Tacitus, who lived at that time.

Among the most significant of these early German tribes are the Chatti (ancestors of the modern
Hessians), Treveri, Tungri, and the Alammanni, to name just a few. Chatti means “to break down
by violence; to make afraid or terrify.” The ancestors of this German tribe, before migrating,
lived mostly in Asia Minor, and were called the Assyrian Chatti.

Many of these early German tribes were in constant conflict with the Roman Empire, which is
why the Romans collectively labeled them Germani, meaning “war men.” Encyclopedia Britannica
points out, “There is no evidence that [Germani] was ever used by the Germans themselves.

According to Tacitus it was first applied to the Tungri, whereas Caesar records that four … tribes …
were collectively known as Germani” (“Germany,” 11th edition).

The Romans called them Germani because of their fierce, warring nature. “Not a single neighbor
of the Germans,” wrote Emil Ludwig, “could ever trust the Germans to remain peaceable.
No matter how happy their condition, their restless passion would urge them on to ever more
extreme demands” (The Germans: Double History of a Nation, 1941).

These early tribes migrated into Central Europe, as historians verify. The Romans labeled all of
them “war men.” But from where did they come? Smith’s Classical Dictionary answers: “There
can be no doubt that they [the Assyrians] … migrated into Europe from the Caucasus and the
countries around the Black and Caspian seas” (“Germania”).

Speaking of the Indo-Germanic tribes that were invading Europe while he was alive, the historian
Jerome, who was born in a.d. 340, wrote, “For ‘Assur (the Assyrian) also is joined with them’”!
(Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, letter 123, section 16). Jerome was quoting from Psalm 83:8.
Jerome wrote of this Assyrian migration because he lived while it was happening!

He was an eyewitness to these events.

With many Germanic tribes flooding into Central Europe, the stage was set for the Assyrian empire
of old to again rise to world dominance. All the Germanic people needed was dynamic leadership to
establish unity; visionaries whom the people could rally around. For the next 1,500 years, the Germans
found just that in the “Holy Roman Empire.”
 
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I think that the idea "Germans are Assyrians" is wrong.

Germanic tribes belong to the Japhethites line, Assyrians to the Semites.
 

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Before their migration, Periplus, who lived around 550 b.c., wrote,
“The coast of the Black Sea … is called Assyria” (Perrot and Chipiez,
History of Art in Sardinia, Judaea, Syria and Asia Minor, Volume 2).
-

C. Leonard Woolley described what these people looked like in his book,
The Sumerians: “In the Zagros hills and across the plain to the Tigris,

there lived a … fair-haired … people akin to the Guti (Goths) who … remained
in what was afterwards Assyria.” This description certainly matches those who
descended from the line of Shem.

Here is what Dr. Herman Hoeh wrote: “When the ancient Greek writers wanted
to distinguish the Assyrians from the Arameans or Syrians, the Greeks called
the Assyrians ‘Leucosyri’—meaning ‘whites’ or ‘blonds,’ as distinct from the
very brunette Syrians who still live in Mesopotamia”


By the time of Christ, the Roman naturalist Pliny the Elder recorded that the
Assyrians were now dwelling north of the Black Sea (Natural History, iv, 12).
By this time, they had moved north.

The Assyrian Migration

Before their migration, Periplus, who lived around 550 b.c., wrote, “The coast of
the Black Sea … is called Assyria” (Perrot and Chipiez, History of Art in Sardinia,
Judaea, Syria and Asia Minor, Volume 2). C. Leonard Woolley described what these
people looked like in his book, The Sumerians:

“In the Zagros hills and across the plain to the Tigris, there lived a … fair-haired …
people akin to the Guti (Goths) who … remained in what was afterwards Assyria.”
This description certainly matches those who descended from the line of Shem.

Dr. Herman Hoeh wrote: “When the ancient Greek writers wanted to distinguish the
Assyrians from the Arameans or Syrians, the Greeks called the Assyrians ‘Leucosyri’
—meaning ‘whites’ or ‘blonds,’ as distinct from the very brunette Syrians
who still live in Mesopotamia”

By the time of Christ, the Roman naturalist Pliny the Elder recorded that the
Assyrians were now dwelling north of the Black Sea. By this time, they had
moved north. (Natural History, iv, 12)

“The Assyrians—before 604 b.c.—left their land north of Babylon and migrated northwest,
through the lands that are now Georgia, the Ukraine, Poland, and into the land that is called
Germany today. Today the descendants of those Assyrians are known to us as the German people.”

Tracing Germany’s Roots
For centuries, the German people have dominated the heartland of Central Europe.
Yet they are a people who know very little about their true origin—or at least refuse to know.
(The Germans themselves are responsible for hiding much of this knowledge, just as many tried
to hide their past at the end of the Hitler era.)

the German people today number well over 100 million people worldwide
—most of them residing in Germany and Austria.

Much was written about the early German tribes that poured into Europe during the first and
second centuries a.d., thanks in large part to the Roman historian Tacitus, who lived at that time.

Among the most significant of these early German tribes are the Chatti (ancestors of the modern
Hessians), Treveri, Tungri, and the Alammanni, to name just a few. Chatti means “to break down
by violence; to make afraid or terrify.” The ancestors of this German tribe, before migrating,
lived mostly in Asia Minor, and were called the Assyrian Chatti.

Many of these early German tribes were in constant conflict with the Roman Empire, which is
why the Romans collectively labeled them Germani, meaning “war men.” Encyclopedia Britannica
points out, “There is no evidence that [Germani] was ever used by the Germans themselves.

According to Tacitus it was first applied to the Tungri, whereas Caesar records that four … tribes …
were collectively known as Germani” (“Germany,” 11th edition).

The Romans called them Germani because of their fierce, warring nature. “Not a single neighbor
of the Germans,” wrote Emil Ludwig, “could ever trust the Germans to remain peaceable.
No matter how happy their condition, their restless passion would urge them on to ever more
extreme demands” (The Germans: Double History of a Nation, 1941).

These early tribes migrated into Central Europe, as historians verify. The Romans labeled all of
them “war men.” But from where did they come? Smith’s Classical Dictionary answers: “There
can be no doubt that they [the Assyrians] … migrated into Europe from the Caucasus and the
countries around the Black and Caspian seas” (“Germania”).

Speaking of the Indo-Germanic tribes that were invading Europe while he was alive, the historian
Jerome, who was born in a.d. 340, wrote, “For ‘Assur (the Assyrian) also is joined with them’”!
(Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, letter 123, section 16). Jerome was quoting from Psalm 83:8.
Jerome wrote of this Assyrian migration because he lived while it was happening!

He was an eyewitness to these events.

With many Germanic tribes flooding into Central Europe, the stage was set for the Assyrian empire
of old to again rise to world dominance. All the Germanic people needed was dynamic leadership to
establish unity; visionaries whom the people could rally around. For the next 1,500 years, the Germans
found just that in the “Holy Roman Empire.”
There may have been some confusion as to what those ancients saw.

One can distinguish the features of ten tribal chieftains of Israel carved on the Behistun rock as being Caucasian. So there's archaeological proof of the ten lost tribe's captivity to Assyria recorded on that Behistun rock in northern Iraq. We know historically they were further scattered to the nations also. But not many historians kept up with their identity when the majority of them migrated westward into Asia Minor and Europe under the names Cimmerians and Scythians.

The Cimmerians and Scythians are where the founders of the western European natiions sprang from, journeying both north and south of the Black Sea migrating west (in stages). From the Cimmerian tribes is where the Celtic peoples originated, as also the Norsk, Gauls, Franks, Normans, Angles, and Saxons, and Germani peoples.

Prof. Leroy Waterman of the University of Michigan in the 1930's translated an Assyrian word from the Assyrian tablets which the Assyrians called the ten tribes. He found it linked to the name Cimmerian. Anthroplogists well know about the history of the Cimmerians tribes migrating westward into Europe, passing around the Black Sea, but they have failed to consider the possibility they were connected with the ten tribes captive to Assyria.

Thus fair skin and blond hair is not a valid association to identify the Assyrians, but instead an identifier for the ten tribed Caucasians.
 

trofimus

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If you want to identify Caucasians according to blond hair and fair skin, Belarus (which means "light russia") is full of blue-eyed blond hair people.

Germans are much more darker than them. And I mean the original ones, not todays mixture of Turks and other "Germans".
 
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I think that the idea "Germans are Assyrians" is wrong.

Germanic tribes belong to the Japhethites line, Assyrians to the Semites.
Same here, the territory of ancient babylon is imo the focal point regarding the end time layout. Isn't this what will be rebuilt? Assyria the country north of Israel...Turkey?

Map of Assyrian Conquests (Bible History Online)

“O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation. I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.” (Isaiah 10:5-6).

That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.” (Isaiah 14:25)
 

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If you want to identify Caucasians according to blond hair and fair skin, Belarus (which means "light russia") is full of blue-eyed blond hair people.

Germans are much more darker than them. And I mean the original ones, not todays mixture of Turks and other "Germans".
But not all Caucasian peoples are fair skinned and blond. Some have black and brunette hair too. Someone years back sent me a Scottish newspaper article of a DNA study done with the western European peoples because the Anglo-Saxons in Britain claim they were of a different race than the Celts, Gauls, etc. The DNA study showed they were all of the same root stock.

And there would be some Israelites that remained in the area of the Caucasus mountains instead migrating further into Europe. Some of them migrated eastward into Asia too (Sacae).