examples of speaking in tongues - need verification and explanations, please

[notuptome]

Words like "seek", "desire", "do not forbid" need little interpretation, unless you want them to say "DON'T seek", "DON'T desire", and "DO forbid".

Has Webster's book been redacted too?

Problem we have here is that they do not appear in Acts.

The epistle to the Corinthians was to correct them not to condone what they were doing. The gifts are given at the will of God not because men desire them. Do men ask for them that they might consume them upon their lusts?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[RickyZ]

By all means, "seek", "desire" and "do not forbid" but at the end of the day did this "seeking", "desiring" and "not forbidding" produce supernatural tongues or simply baseless claims of glossolalia?

So doing the three things the Bible clearly tells us to do produces baseless claims. Ok, sure.

How much more of God's words produce baseless and useless ends? As long as we are redacting and re-defining Gods word, I want to make sure I don't miss any of these important changes!

 

[RickyZ]

Problem we have here is that they do not appear in Acts.

The epistle to the Corinthians was to correct them not to condone what they were doing. The gifts are given at the will of God not because men desire them. Do men ask for them that they might consume them upon their lusts?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

You are absolutely right. 1 Cor 14 was indeed a letter of correction. And does the fact that it is not included in Acts really make Corinthians a lie?

The message was "do it correctly", not "don't do it at all". Thus the terms seek, desire, and do not forbid.

But I blame us speakers for the confusion. I can only imagine that if it were being done correctly by all, instead of being done as a sideshow as it often is, that there would be a whole lot less confusion on this issue. I will give you at least that much.

 

[notuptome]

You are absolutely right. 1 Cor 14 was indeed a letter of correction. And does the fact that it is not included in Acts really make Corinthians a lie?

The message was "do it correctly", not "don't do it at all". Thus the terms seek, desire, and do not forbid.

But I blame us speakers for the confusion. I can only imagine that if it were being done correctly by all, instead of being done as a sideshow as it often is, that there would be a whole lot less confusion on this issue. I will give you at least that much.

We are looking at the sovereignty of God in the matter. The will of man is corrupt and produces corrupt fruit. We must first be submitted to the will of God if we are to see Him move in our lives.

I marvel at the contrast of tongues in Acts and tongues in Corinthians.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[RickyZ]

We are looking at the sovereignty of God in the matter. The will of man is corrupt and produces corrupt fruit. We must first be submitted to the will of God if we are to see Him move in our lives.

I marvel at the contrast of tongues in Acts and tongues in Corinthians.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

True, but again, does that contrast mean that Corinthians is a lie?

 

[RickyZ]

And let me say I do appreciate the exchange of ideas instead of insults

 

[Didymous]

You are absolutely right. 1 Cor 14 was indeed a letter of correction. And does the fact that it is not included in Acts really make Corinthians a lie?

The message was "do it correctly", not "don't do it at all". Thus the terms seek, desire, and do not forbid.

But I blame us speakers for the confusion. I can only imagine that if it were being done correctly by all, instead of being done as a sideshow as it often is, that there would be a whole lot less confusion on this issue. I will give you at least that much.

A very wise and reasoned post. I've never doubted tongues, just so many that seem so determined to misrepresent it. You have done much to restore my faith in those who claim this ability.

 

[notuptome]

True, but again, does that contrast mean that Corinthians is a lie?

No more than the day makes the night a lie.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[RickyZ]

No more than the day makes the night a lie.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Then how is it you accept the version shown in Acts yet don't accept that which is taught in Corinthians?