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Keef

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Did Christ not go through great suffering for you? We are told by God Himself that He will in fact put you through suffering, all for the sake of bringing us closer to Him. He tells us that Christians will be captured and killed, and He tells us when it happens, to let it happen with faith in Him.

Think about it. There are Christians being put to death today merely for having faith in Christ. Do you think being unmarried equals that? This life ends, it is but a vapor. It is meaningless, the bible even tells you that. Put all your lifes focus on loving God. It will lead you to far better things than anything this earth has to offer.
Jesus was famous in his time on earth, and now after death. He had twelve disciples following him around, and there were large crowds constantly surrounding him. His life on earth was not long, and his life had a purpose.
 

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Despite everything I have done to try and find a relationship, no one has been attracted to me for years now. God has the power to do anything, including hardening the hearts of others, but why would he? Am I wrong for fighting Jesus over this matter?
Do you mean the women you find attractive are not attracted to you only?

What if God sent someone to you already but you just didnt find her attractive and rejected her and shes off on another forum crying to others how she met you (the love of her life) but how you werent the least bit attracted to her?

Could that be possible?
 
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Keef

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[QUOTE
=ISeeYou;1886641]Do you mean the women you find attractive are not attracted to you only?

What if God sent someone to you already but you just didnt find her attractive and rejected her and shes off on another forum crying to others how she met you (the love of her life) but how you werent the least bit attracted to her?

Could that be possible?[/QUOTE]

I don't think that God would make me unattracted to my potential wife. I am not talking about beauty, I am talking about attraction.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Jesus was famous in his time on earth, and now after death. He had twelve disciples following him around, and there were large crowds constantly surrounding him. His life on earth was not long, and his life had a purpose.
What does fame matter? He wasnt famous to fulfill some ego. He was in order to lead the world to Him. He was captured, made a spectacle of, spat on, insulted, put to death by many of the people who listened to Him and rejoiced in Him and died horribly. Do you think Christ lived to live the good life?

Can you really not put God before your desires? Can you not love Him if He doesnt give you what you want, when He already tells you He wants to give you something greater than this life, eternal salvation, all at the cost of following Him? Its really not even that bad to be alone. You make me think of me when I was transgender, I literally cried that I was a male, I did this because I was living for myself, and for earthly pleasures, and not for God. Now that God has lead me down the right path, I realize that I was silly to even worry about such things :p
 
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Keef

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What does fame matter? He wasnt famous to fulfill some ego. He was in order to lead the world to Him. He was captured, made a spectacle of, spat on, insulted, put to death by many of the people who listened to Him and rejoiced in Him and died horribly. Do you think Christ lived to live the good life?

Can you really not put God before your desires? Can you not love Him if He doesnt give you what you want, when He already tells you He wants to give you something greater than this life, eternal salvation, all at the cost of following Him? Its really not even that bad to be alone. You make me think of me when I was transgender, I literally cried that I was a male, I did this because I was living for myself, and for earthly pleasures, and not for God. Now that God has lead me down the right path, I realize that I was silly to even worry about such things :p
"Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete."
-John 16:24

I don't consider love to be a silly earthly pleasure, and I do worry about it.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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"Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete."
-John 16:24

I don't consider love to be a silly earthly pleasure, and I do worry about it.
Love is important, the love of God is what you need. But why do you think you cant live without a girlfriend? And yeah having a wife is an earthly desire. It is not needed, like air or water. Adam was given Eve as a gift.

But anywho, I dont wanna sound like a teacher, but I definitely hope youll let go of this, because it almost seems like your challenging God for not giving you what you want, when He has already given you what you need. You put all your desires on earthly things, and though God does allow marriage, you are accusing God of being unfair for not giving you it when you demand it. I dont think you are making Him happy by doing this. You should really let go, and consider God to be all you need. Just like the prophets did, just like the apostles did, and just like Christ did.
 

Hizikyah

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"Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete."
-John 16:24

I don't consider love to be a silly earthly pleasure, and I do worry about it.
We can only receive according to His will. If His will and our will do not line up then no. But brother we dont know what tomorrow will bring, He may have the perfect wife for you in times to come?
 

notuptome

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I would not care if I spent the rest of my life regretting getting married. Marriage is for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer.
The reason you are not married is that you still see it as all about you. Marriage incorporates others as in a spouse and most important God. Your wife and children may not be willing to endure hardship so that you feel fulfilled.

Simply you are not anywhere near ready for marriage.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

ISeeYou

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I don't think that God would make me unattracted to my potential wife. I am not talking about beauty, I am talking about attraction.
I couldnt tell you, my husband literally fell into my life one day by way of a photograph (for a whole other intention altogether) but I had no intentions towards him whatsoever. So, I didnt reccognize him as my husband to be at the time. We had nothing in common whatsoever but our youthful lust. We were married after knowing each other 90 days, andI am still married to him, an unbeliever even, and we have been married for 25 years.

I thought this was cute,

Yesterday I went to get my teeth cleaned and I looked over at my dental hygentists pictures, and I asked (somewhat knowing) who that handsome fellow was in one of her photographs? And a big smile come her face as she proudly introduced me to her husband (and then ofcourse that was followed up by showing me pictures of their grown children also). She said, you'll never guess how I met him, and I asked her how, and she told me while cleaning his teeth 25 years earlier, he was a patient.

And I thought, wow can you imagine?

He began dating the woman who just cleaned all the gross tartar off his teeth LOL

Yah! for tartar build up.

Make a few dentist appointments
 
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Jon4TheCross

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If you do not struggle with fornication then I would advise to be content with the one needful/needed thing (end of luke 10).
If you do struggle...you are in a position being single to spend much time hearing the Word of God...and you will not regret truly trusting that Jesus didn't lie when He said...one needful thing (not two), which technically is sitting at Jesus feet and hearing His word.

Of course many things needful to the flesh would just have to wait.

Spend some days focused only on the one needful thing (not eating would be a bi product of that if done continually, but I would not advize going more than three days and nights without water unless God tells you to.
 

mcubed

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Well, you can do what I did get sick of waiting on G-d take matters in to your own hands, become unequally yoked with that someone you see as special have children then 15 years later divorce. But no worries you only divorce because your spouse cheated on you so you Biblically can do it. Then after that pain finally surrender to G-d and be whole in Him. I tell you the truth, when I meant my ex-husband I finally felt complete. Then 15 years latter sitting in my car at a grocery store I said to my Dad (G-d) I know you are supposed to complete me but I have never felt complete just having you, I want you to be enough but you are not. Please come in and complete me (mind you I have been saved at this time for about 20 years). G-d meant me right where I was at and filled me that day I have not felt incomplete since. Be honest with G-d, He will not let you down. There is such a great Scripture, I think 1 peter, maybe not, (look for it) those that believe in Him will not be discouraged.
 

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Put God first, then everything else will fall in place. His will.
Amen!

If everyone did this they would understand how God holds everything together. We are nothing without Him.
Above all things, the most important is Christ.
Who is there for us when we are down?
Who is there for us when we are sick?
Who is there for us when we run out of money?
Who is there for us when we don't know which way to turn?
Who is there for us when we have done something we shouldn't have?

Christ is there for us ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS. Not even a husband/wife would be there for you as how Christ is. So always put Him first the way He is with you!
 
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Ella85

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One more point to ponder... A partner is a blessing from the Lord.
I truly believe that if the Lord feels it is not your time, then you should consider why He is telling you no.
Not because He doesn't love you....it is because HE DOES LOVE YOU and you need so much more in your life......and that is to work on you.... and your relationship with God.
 
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Kaycie

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There is nothing wrong with wanting a wife and kids. God made families. God was compassionate to barren women in the old testament who wanted a child. Genesis 2:18 says it is not good for man to be alone. Paul says its better in a way to be single so that you can focus only on God, but if you can't control yourself you should marry. And obviously you cant control your need for a wife. God says he who finds a wife receives favor from the Lord. You can still be close to God if you are married. Enoch was a husband and father, but still his walk was so close to God that he didn't die. It is not unholy in any way to be married, God made marriage.

Job had many blessings and God took them away. And Job was faithful and respectful to God whether he had blessings or not. Maybe God is testing you. You said, "...but I have this one thing against Jesus." Jesus said if you don't love Him more than people you are not worthy of Him. Job didn't have anything against God. God has a right to give and a right to take away as He pleases. But we never have a right to hoard anger against Him for the decisions He makes. I'm sure when Joseph was in prison he wondered why this was happening to him.

We may not always know God's reasoning, but just because it is the case now does not mean it will always be the case. I am in the same boat, but I view it as my fault because I am currently overweight. Until I lose weight I feel I have no right to complain. It is completely understandable that a guy wouldn't be attracted to that. I know who I am inside is more important, but it is also a physical relationship. I know you said you were mindful of this and do have this part correct. I don't know what the reason is, all I can say is keep praying and being ready. And make sure your attitude toward God is humble and respectful.
 
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kaylagrl

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I want to ask everyone in this thread one question: am I wrong?

My friend I'd like to give you a little advice from what Ive read in your posts.First of all your time table is not Gods.You are 22 years old.You have time.I was in my late thirties when I met my now husband and 41 when we got married.So dont reject God because he isn't moving fast enough for you.If you do you'll take it out of His hands,which I did at first,and backslid over it.I chose the wrong man who cheated on me probably more than once,and trust me that hurt a lot worse than being single and lonely!

Not that I'm a fan of everything the man says but as Dr Phil says "its better to be single and lonely than married and miserable" You think you'd be ok with a bad marriage? Trust me that is your youth talking.If you push God and get the wrong person it can make your life hell! I knew a young man who married the wrong girl.They fought constantly but eventually she got pregnant.She lied and cheated on him and eventually took his little baby away from him.He committed suicide because he couldn't fight anymore.He was a handsome,smart,wonderful young man,but chose the wrong person.We were broken hearted to loose him.The moral of the story is this my young friend ...if you rush God and go ahead of his plan you will suffer for it.And the pain of loneliness will be nothing compared to the disaster you have created in your own life.So yes,you are wrong.Find something else to do and stop fixating on a girlfriend.Being single is a gift as much as being married.Marriage is hard work,it is compromise,it is pleasing another when you'd rather please yourself.Work on being the best potential husband you can be.Never mind the physical,its the inside that counts.You are impatient,that is not a good trait in a marriage,work on that.If you give up this easily and are angry at God what will happen when the storms of life hit your marriage? You cant afford that light bill,your child is sick and you cant afford a doctor,your wife is angry at you and tells you to sleep on the couch,your mother in law criticizes you all the time,your father in law thinks you're lazy because your job doesn't pay enough to give his daughter the best of everything.Do not romanticize marriage,its not like in the movies.It can be wonderful,it can be hard.You have a lot of growing to do.Do not rush God! You will regret it every time,I warn you! Blessings on you.
 
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Amen!

If everyone did this they would understand how God holds everything together. We are nothing without Him.
Above all things, the most important is Christ.
Who is there for us when we are down?
Who is there for us when we are sick?
Who is there for us when we run out of money?
Who is there for us when we don't know which way to turn?
Who is there for us when we have done something we shouldn't have?

Christ is there for us ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS. Not even a husband/wife would be there for you as how Christ is. So always put Him first the way He is with you!
AMEN and like he said...I will never leave thee nor forsake thee!!!! :)
 
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You know I'm new here and I looked at the rep power of some and thought hey their good, but I'm finding that not to be true. Some who have rep power of 15 or higher have no idea what they are saying.
 

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You know I'm new here and I looked at the rep power of some and thought hey their good, but I'm finding that not to be true. Some who have rep power of 15 or higher have no idea what they are saying.
From my observation, the higher the rep power the greater reliability that the member is stating a position or posting a comment that is true to the nature or belief that they currently have. It may or may not be accurate in regards to a particular topic but was honestly stated.
 
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From my observation, the higher the rep power the greater reliability that the member is stating a position or posting a comment that is true to the nature or belief that they currently have. It may or may not be accurate in regards to a particular topic but was honestly stated.

So we are supposed to take your word for it. Because of your rank?