FIRE BREATHING DRAGONS FACT OR FICTION

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FLYING FIRE BREATHING DRAGONS FACT OR FICTION

  • FACT

    Votes: 13 56.5%

  • FICTION

    Votes: 10 43.5%
  • Total voters
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RickShafer

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SpudLove said:
what puzzles me, is how a dragon could actually produce fire - I can grasp they perhaps had the flammable gas but wondering where they got the spark from to produce a flame...
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That is a good question.
But remember how fire is made....by flint.
Now, is not it a possibility that there were flint like bones in their esophagus that they could pinch together to ignite the methane?
Either that or the brilliance of their scales as described, combined with their onerous visage would seem like fire to the unsuspecting beholder who happened upon one.
- From the descriptions it seemed they resembled reclusive menacing flying reptiles which had scales that shined like a hummingbird in the sun.
- - Also they hissed.
- - -And to this day snakes hiss. - (Seen it, heard it, been there, done that)
 
WeStand

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Tintin said:
How is death an entity/being?
How is God not an entity/being but the Godhead is?
Stop talking in riddles!
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Our Father is The Creator of Life & The Source of Love (Not lust) He is a grower & multiplier of ALL things GOOD!

Search out the word Satan, the prime root of the word is death.

Search out the word Death, the prime root of the word is appolyon.

Search out the word appolyon, it means; to be destroyed by ashes from within.

The son of predition, sentenced to perish, the ONLY one so far by name.

Everthing down here eventually becomes polluted, then deteriorates, dies and rots; Because Death IS currently ruling temporarily.

Our Father is, always has been and forever will be in control :cool:

He left The Holy Spirit and Christ in charge of things here, Because, He would Not naturally or morenaturally put up with this much negativity without having already destroyed it.

Thank Get Over Death (GOD) ALMIGHTY for His Wisdom and our Big Brother Christ. :D The Godhead or The Head of the Mission for one and ALL in and through Christ; Get Over Death/Satan.

I find it funny how we often times do things in ignorance, without us even realizing that we are following His Will anyways; like raising families, and calling our flesh fathers Dad, "for ye shall call none Father, But one :D lots of little things like smiling at someone who is caught up in a tense situation, or even coming to the persons aide, if necessary. It's a pretty bumpy ride through these shadows of hell :p

Without getting into a religious debate; I find it kind of funny how the Jewish faith in which our Bibles are derived from, refuse to type the word God, lol they do it like this G_d, because the word God is not in their manuscripts; and it was added to the KJV version about 57 times.

anyways Peace of mind/heart in Christ Bro :)
 
RickShafer

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As for a "Death" angel being automatically Luciferian.....
- Well, look at the angel of death that passed over egypt?
- Was that satan?
Also, look at the angel that killed 186,000 Assyrians when they surrounded Jerusalem.
Was that satan fighting against himself?
How could it be? Since their leader openly accused the God of Abraham in such a callous and vehement way. (Only satan would do that)
Now, since we know satan doesn't fight himself there must needs be another power over death besides him.
- So God can send a righteous angel to end as many lives of whomever He sees fit at any certain time, - - - and not at all be unrighteous.
- - So God the righteous has power over life and death. - (What a concept)
 
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RickShafer said:
As for a "Death" angel being automatically Luciferian.....
- Well, look at the angel of death that passed over egypt?
- Was that satan?
Also, look at the angel that killed 186,000 Assyrians when they surrounded Jerusalem.
Was that satan fighting against himself?
How could it be? Since their leader openly accused the God of Abraham in such a callous and vehement way. (Only satan would do that)
Now, since we know satan doesn't fight himself there must needs be another power over death besides him.
- So God can send a righteous angel to end as many lives of whomever He sees fit at any certain time, - - - and not at all be unrighteous.
- - So God the righteous has power over life and death. - (What a concept)
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Exodus 12:12) For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.
13 .) And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
 
WeStand

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RickShafer said:
As for a "Death" angel being automatically Luciferian.....
- Well, look at the angel of death that passed over egypt?
- Was that satan?
Also, look at the angel that killed 186,000 Assyrians when they surrounded Jerusalem.
Was that satan fighting against himself?
How could it be? Since their leader openly accused the God of Abraham in such a callous and vehement way. (Only satan would do that)
Now, since we know satan doesn't fight himself there must needs be another power over death besides him.
- So God can send a righteous angel to end as many lives of whomever He sees fit at any certain time, - - - and not at all be unrighteous.
- - So God the righteous has power over life and death. - (What a concept)
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Find this difficult to understand what you are asking exactly, but I think this may be it.

Was that Satan that passed over Egypt? yes most definitely, because what protected them then and now, is the blood of The Lamb/Christ.

This Assyrian thing, i'm a little rusty on; I mean there are the times that Israel conquered them, but 10 of the tribes of Israel were ultimately taken captive by them.

Is their another power at work? of course, angels and The Angel of The LORD, Melchezidek,The Christ/Messiah in his spiritual form.

If NO flesh MAN has EVER seen the face of GOD ALMIGHTY, and the one who came closest to doing so was Moses, who only caught a glimpse of His backside, that forever changed his countenance; Who was it, ask yourself that Moses saw face to face in the burning bush? Who was it when 2.4 million Israelites saw with their eyes, that pillar of fire between the Red Sea & the Egyption army?

Or who was it that went WITH Abraham to the slaughter of the kings, to retrieve his nephew Lot? Melchezidek of course! OUR King of Peace; Our Fathers Prince of Peace, Our King of the Justified Kills, Our Father's Representitive.

The Angel of The LORD! Not! just any Angel/Messenger.
 
RickShafer

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The Red is the answer to his petty objections....(as much as it can be).

WeStand said:
Find this difficult to understand what you are asking exactly, but I think this may be it.

Was that Satan that passed over Egypt? yes most definitely, because what protected them then and now, is the blood of The Lamb/Christ. So God is satan? Read the post just above you. Who passed over Egypt?........God or satan? Is "I" a personal pronoun? So you are claiming God is satan then........

This Assyrian thing, i'm a little rusty on; I mean there are the times that Israel conquered them, but 10 of the tribes of Israel were ultimately taken captive by them. Rabashag was the leader the the Assyrian army, which was the empire of that time,....they were so powerful that he got proud. In fact he got a big head and foolishly accused the God of the Israelites, esteeming Jehovah as another idol of some other fallen area that they had conquered.

Is their another power at work? of course, angels and The Angel of The LORD, Melchezidek,The Christ/Messiah in his spiritual form.

If NO flesh MAN has EVER seen the face of GOD ALMIGHTY, and the one who came closest to doing so was Moses, who only caught a glimpse of His backside, that forever changed his countenance; Who was it, ask yourself that Moses saw face to face in the burning bush? Who was it when 2.4 million Israelites saw with their eyes, that pillar of fire between the Red Sea & the Egyption army?

Or who was it that went WITH Abraham to the slaughter of the kings, to retrieve his nephew Lot? Melchezidek of course! OUR King of Peace; Our Fathers Prince of Peace, Our King of the Justified Kills, Our Father's Representitive.

The Angel of The LORD! Not! just any Angel/Messenger.
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Honestly, I'd like to engage you, but your lack of logic makes it impossible to do so.....
 
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WeStand

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RickShafer said:
The Red is the answer to his petty objections....(as much as it can be).



Honestly, I'd like to engage you, but your lack of logic makes it impossible to do so.....
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Honestly, Our Father allowed The Death Angel to Pass Over Egypt! and Christ IS NOT the Death Angel lol Christ IS the Pass Over ;)
 
RickShafer

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Melchezidek, the king of peace is the death angel?
Or God 'allowed' satan to pass over to fulfill God's own purposes against the kingdom of satan?.
Sorry, Jesus (the God made flesh) said Satan will not fight his own kingdom.
- - In other words, satan is not a force. He is a sentient being.
Also God is not a force, He also is a sentient being. (The Spirit that made all the rest)
 
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RickShafer said:
Melchezidek, the king of peace is the death angel?
Or God 'allowed' satan to pass over to fulfill God's own purposes against the kingdom of satan?.
Sorry, Jesus (the God made flesh) said Satan will not fight his own kingdom.
- - In other words, satan is not a force. He is a sentient being.
Also God is not a force, He also is a sentient being. (The Spirit that made all the rest)
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sounds very confusing and religious to me lol, i'll leave you to your spinning wheels lol
 
RickShafer

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WeStand said:
sounds very confusing and religious to me lol, i'll leave you to your spinning wheels lol
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You said all killing comes from Lucifer in your first claim.
Then you said that the king of peace(Melchezidek) was the death angel in another post.
Which is it?
 
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RickShafer said:
You said all killing comes from Lucifer in your first claim.
Then you said that the king of peace(Melchezidek) was the death angel in another post.
Which is it?
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Oh, I get it, your one of those word twisters lol; I said nothing of the sort lol
 
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This apparent Plesiosaur specimen washed ashore in Monterey Bay, California in 1925. It sported a twenty foot or so long neck and some witnesses described a number of legs on the creature.

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RickShafer

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Read are the answers to the unrequited questions in black.

WeStand said:
Satan = Death = Appolyon = to be destroyed by ashes from within.
You said Satan = death

Death is an entity/being NOT an event. Again! Death is an entity or being ....now, you just said death is satan, then you say death is Melchizedek, another being.

GOD is the mission, NOT an entity/being: The Godhead however are beings; The Father, Son & Holy Spirit.
- Now you say God is the 'mission', but the Godhead are beings.
So you say God is the mission -( purpose), yet the Godhead are beings to fulfill that purpose.
- Just a question.....when does God stop being a mission? And when does He start being a person(being)?
- - Is God the Father a mission(purpose)?
- - And Jesus Christ a sentient being?
- - Or is the Holy Spirit a purpose(mission), and not a being?

Just goes to show one, how far off these religions really are. - (Yes indeed)

Pathetically waaaaay off base. - (Most assuredly)
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This site has compiled many examples of art depictions of "dragons" from around the world. http://s8int.com/dinolit1.html

Before the serpent was cast down to go about on it's belly, if you take this as being literal, I wonder what the serpent looked like before this. Perhaps something like the Dragon Of Marduk.
 
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RickShafer said:
Read are the answers to the unrequited questions in black.

WeStand said:
Satan = Death = Appolyon = to be destroyed by ashes from within.
You said Satan = death

Death is an entity/being NOT an event. Again! Death is an entity or being ....now, you just said death is satan, then you say death is Melchizedek, another being.

GOD is the mission, NOT an entity/being: The Godhead however are beings; The Father, Son & Holy Spirit.
- Now you say God is the 'mission', but the Godhead are beings.
So you say God is the mission -( purpose), yet the Godhead are beings to fulfill that purpose.
- Just a question.....when does God stop being a mission? And when does He start being a person(being)?
- - Is God the Father a mission(purpose)?
- - And Jesus Christ a sentient being?
- - Or is the Holy Spirit a purpose(mission), and not a being?

Just goes to show one, how far off these religions really are. - (Yes indeed)

Pathetically waaaaay off base. - (Most assuredly)
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K,:) I find some of your questions as strange as you find my responses lol :)

When does God stop being a mission? and become a being? At the End! of The Lord's Day of Reckoning & Teaching in the Spirit. The beginning of that Day, are only the firstfruits from the largest group of humans that have ever existed on this planet at one time.

Our Father, Get Over Death GOD ALMIGHTY! The Morenatural Spirit of Love, The Creator of Life and The Source of Love; The MOST powerful, positive physical force and might; in both the negative and our positive universe; The ONE who Rules MoreNaturally in the Glory & Honour of the Majesty of His Fairness/Righteousness ; in whom IS DUE! ALL of the Praise in both the negative and our positive universe; had a dream! LOL, sorry only joking :D HAS a PLAN! :cool:

And on the FIRST DAY! Get Over Death Almighty; created, the way, the truth and The Light!

AND that IS! The PLAN of Salvation for ONE & ALL in and through Christ/Messiah The straight & narrow gate! BECAUSE! there IS NO other way to GET OVER DEATH/SATAN :cool:

Is Christ sentient? I have no idea what that means? looked it up in an old pocket dictionary, couldn't find it.( sounds like a combination of sent and patient) which makes sense, as these are part of our instructions, :)

Is the Holy Spirit a mission or being? :confused: Our Father's Holy Spirit is a part of the Godhead that guides one soul and comforts one mind in times of turmoil and serious tribulations.

It IS Our Father's Wisdom and Our Father's Comforter, HIS Holy Spirit! NOT! OURS! (braindead Lucifer/Satan :mad:) and we currently have that part of the Kingdom of Heaven WITHIN US NOW! just plain old common-sense that is being seriously abused at this time.

IF! one were to desire Wisdom, one receives it, through sincere study and prayer at this time (in generations past; its ALWAYS been hearing & praying) but then there also have never been so many people educated to a elementary level of education at one time either; little extra effort & A LOT more prayer lol :D

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out GOD, but even a rocket scientist can't figure out religion/faith ;)
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RickShafer said:
Arizona is desert for the most part...

- Finally, these were cowboys. I'm sure all of the purported measurements were accurate - (they probably couldn't even spell).
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LT said:
They were able to build the pyramids, but couldn't catch a croc? I've seen people do it with their bare hands.
This is obviously speaking of an animal far beyond the size and strength of an alligator or crocodile. A hippo has a tiny tail, so it could not be the Behemoth, which has a "tail like a cedar tree".
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Be my quest, friend, take one on.
 
RickShafer

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Oh, Obi Wan Kenobi, how your doctrine fades in the light of the gospel.
Stop seeing God as a force.
God is a person.
Positive and negative? - Really?! - AaaaHaHaHa!
I suppose Jack the Ripper was the negative force personified......(Just as Jesus Christ was the positive force personified)......

Listen, the negative force that God the person made is called hell, that's where Jack the Ripper went.
Also, the positive force that God the creator made is called unconditional love. - (Which neither Hitler, Stalin, or Jack the Ripper attained).
But of course they couldn't have attained that love through any work of their own doing, you see because they were not omnipotent like God is.
See,.....the 'socalled' negative' force is called sin. - (It's not a force, it's a decision made by created beings who wanted to be equal with God).

There is no negative 'force' in God, what you call a negative force is but justice for those who took it upon themselves to be equal with God.

No negative, it's justice.
God is not a force, He is a Being.
He is the Being that made all forces. (natural and spiritual)

Oh......Obi Wan.........AaaaaHaHaHa!!!! (C'mon man, you don't know this?)
 
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