For the Homophobes

[WolfGaming]

we need to show them that what there doing can and will send them to hell and if we love them that's what we will do is show them what there doing is wrong I don't want any body to go to hell but a lot of people will be going and our job is to plant a seed in them so the holy spirt can do it's work in them and change them that's what we should do if we love them truly.

 

[Willie-T]

I love this foolishness. The Bible plainly said unbelief is sin. Every one of us was an unbeliever at some point. Some still do struggle with doubt.

 

[Willie-T]

we need to show them that what there doing can and will send them to hell and if we love them that's what we will do is show them what there doing is wrong I don't want any body to go to hell but a lot of people will be going and our job is to plant a seed in them so the holy spirt can do it's work in them and change them that's what we should do if we love them truly.

Yep, best was I know to plant a seed is to call people sinners, and tell them they are going to Hell. Wonder if God is going to look at you, one day, and agree that is what He asked you to do?

 

[WolfGaming]

what does that have to do with this? and some have always known by your mom and dad and just did not care.

 

[WolfGaming]

Yep, best was I know to plant a seed is to call people sinners, and tell them they are going to Hell. Wonder if God is going to look at you, one day, and agree that is what He asked you to do?

did sorry did not say *God will send them to hell* and do you think what I said was not true?

 

[WolfGaming]

will he not? send people to hell if they do not turn?

 

[posthuman]

Mark has something to say to you Mark 12:31 - And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

okay,

"as thyself" it says, right?

here is the way i love myself:

when i sin and act unrighteously, i admit it to myself.
i don't tell myself that doing wrong is good and commendable.
when i am base and obscene, i don't pretend i'm clean.

so that's how i ought to love my neighbors -- not by lying to them.

thanks for the reminder!

 

[WolfGaming]

okay,

"as thyself" it says, right?

here is the way i love myself:

when i sin and act unrighteously, i admit it to myself.
i don't tell myself that doing wrong is good and commendable.
when i am base and obscene, i don't pretend i'm clean.

so that's how i ought to love my neighbors -- not by lying to them.

thanks for the reminder!

Amen brother

 

[seed_time_harvest]

God already judged homosexuality as sin.Its not judging to state what the Bible says.And loving a person has nothing to do with agreeing with their lifestyle.Nor does it make one homophobic.

GOD will still look at the heart even if a person tells another what GOD says GOD still knows their motive.

 

[DesiredHaven]

Thanks for the discussion everyone im learning alot God Bless

God bless you too Monnkai, and dont apologize again, you are good, no worries

 

[Willie-T]

will he not? send people to hell if they do not turn?

What I am asking is........ Do you think that kind of thing will get them to want to listen to you... or to anyone? Jesus did not go around telling anyone but self righteous hypocrites they were going to Helll. True seekers, He always invited with love. ALWAYS.

 

[Willie-T]

okay,

"as thyself" it says, right?

here is the way i love myself:

when i sin and act unrighteously, i admit it to myself.
i don't tell myself that doing wrong is good and commendable.
when i am base and obscene, i don't pretend i'm clean.

so that's how i ought to love my neighbors -- not by lying to them.

thanks for the reminder!

Boy, did you ever miss THAT one. Just because you might like to be hit by a 2x4 doesn't mean it is "loving" to treat others that way. For yourself, you want what works FOR YOU. Well, for others, we should want what works... FOR THEM. Remember that Paul said he became all things to all people that he might win THEM to Jesus.

 

[Willie-T]

Oh no thats not what Im saying. Is that what it sounded like? I really do apologize I know its a sin and there going to hell Im just saying we shouldn't make it any worse for them and show them the love of christ so they might repent. Sorry if you misunderstood me or I didn't convey it well enough. I most certianly dont know everything but each day im learning.

You have it exactly right. Don't let fear make you ashamed to know and show the love of Jesus.

 

[Monnkai]

​Are you sure about that? You started this post by accusing the brothers. Not very loving nor understanding.

You make a good point I didn't realize I was accusing it was not my intention I apologize. Sorry everyone

 

[Monnkai]

God bless you too Monnkai, and dont apologize again, you are good, no worries

Thank you much I apologize alot because im use to being wrong.

 

[Willie-T]

Thank you much I apologize alot because im use to being wrong.

Try saying, "Thank you, I will try to stay aware of that."

 

[DesiredHaven]

will he not? send people to hell if they do not turn?

If you are not going to inherit the Kingdom I suppose one would ask what other place is there if one is not there.

I was looking at this,

It says, when Felix came with his wife Drusilla, which was a Jewess, he had sent for Paul, and heard him concerning the faith in Jesus Christ. And it says Paul reasoned this way

Acts 24:25 As he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come,

It even shows it was not an ear tickling message, and Felix response is recorded

Felix *trembled*, and answered,
Go thy way for this time;
when I have a convenient season,
I will call for thee.

Paul continues concerning those who practice these things not entering the Kingdom of God here

Gal 5:10-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these;
Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,Idolatry,witchcraft, hatred,
variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies ,Envyings, murders, drunkenness,
revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before,
as I have also told you in time past,
that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

And here

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners,
shall inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of us as well, and Paul is warning them

Paul doesnt shun to declare all the counsel of God, alot of others do.

 

[DesiredHaven]

Thank you much I apologize alot because im use to being wrong.

Now you can apologize for apologizing again...

 

[Monnkai]

If you are not going to inherit the Kingdom I suppose one would ask what other place is there if one is not there.

I was looking at this,

It says, when Felix came with his wife Drusilla, which was a Jewess, he had sent for Paul, and heard him concerning the faith in Jesus Christ. And it says Paul reasoned this way

Acts 24:25 As he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come,

It even shows it was not an ear tickling message, and Felix response is recorded

Felix *trembled*, and answered,
Go thy way for this time;
when I have a convenient season,
I will call for thee.

Paul continues concerning those who practice these things not entering the Kingdom of God here

Gal 5:10-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these;
Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,Idolatry,witchcraft, hatred,
variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies ,Envyings, murders, drunkenness,
revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before,
as I have also told you in time past,
that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

And here

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners,
shall inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of us as well, and Paul is warning them

Paul doesnt shun to declare all the counsel of God, alot of others do.

Im not the sharpest tool in the shed can you explain some of those sins? emulations revellings seditions,variance
I have not heard those terms before. I'll stop apologizing now lol

 

[DesiredHaven]

Im not the sharpest tool in the shed can you explain some of those sins? emulations revellings seditions,variance
I have not heard those terms before. I'll stop apologizing now lol

I was around the same age as you when I come to the Lord, a little younger and I had a had barely graduated with a D- and a 5th grade reading level and I didnt even know what thee or thou meant, thats how sharp a tool I was, and I always use the same (even now) to describe myself (not too sharp).

But if you go here

Blue Letter Bible - Home Page

Type in any one of those words in this box (I typed in emulations there)



And Click the search button it will bring you to that word (in that verse). Then you can click that teeny tiny box at the upper right side of the verse (where it says strongs with a box by it) see it?



After you click (to check that) it changes to show you these numbers besides the verses



In this case emulation is [SUP]G2205[/SUP] (and you can click on that directly here or there) which will bring you to the Lexicon results as shown here




Its always good to havesome tools, these are sort of basic and you can click around for more tools over there to find things.

Hope that helps.