Gay/LGBT "Christian" Singers

[PennEd]

There is a distinct difference that if not understood will confuse the issue of if the homosexual community is just a group of sinners like the rest of us or something more sinister. The distinction is rather clear, there is no sin other then sexual perversion that wants to be classed as a culture/community. No sin organizes lobby groups, parades and festivals to promote their sin.

This effort is purposeful and part of an agenda to force society of bend its knee in acceptance of their chosen lifestyle. They have no desire to change, it is Christianity that must change. It is us who are sinning by not accepting their view of morality.

If Christians cannot see this distinction there is little hope of stopping its effect on the Body of Christ.

No other sin that organizes you say... Hmm..

What about EVERY other religion, aside from true Christianity, that worships false gods?

Do Muslims organize their sin with worship of the moon god? How about ISIS? They organize a whole host of sins. From idolatry to torture to murder!

What about mormons, or jehovah witnesses, or satan worshippers, or even atheists? The list goes on and on.

Are you saying that none of those groups organize around their sin?

 

[Gabriel2020]

Loving your enemy is the same as do unto others as you would have them do unto you. if you know in your heart that this is what you will do, thn God takes care of everything else. These are abominations,, and strong Satanic influences of the Devil.

 

[Gabriel2020]

These people already walk in darkness under Satan's influence,so every sin imaginable in their hearts ,they commit .. God calls them reprobates,and an abomination. they know the truth,they have heard time and time again. their choice is Satan and not God. we can call them whatever we want, but God has already labored them.

 

[MattforJesus]

Ill be the first one to admit...I don't know how to love these people. Same with all this terrorist stuff...don't know how to love them.

But I do know one that does....not there acts but them.....Jesus.

I'm no super saint and quite frankly I'm at a struggle here. I pray the Lord raises up people who can love them the way the Lord wants.
I do know it effects the church and the saints alike. I will not cast stones but I will not give up ground either.
It's one of those deals where I just help hold up arms to prevail. Not that anyone asked...lol.

Follow peace with all men,with holiness,without which no person shall see the Lord.

Follow peace with all men,as much as lies in you.

Be angry,but sin not.

We have to get along with everyone,but as much as lies in us.

Some people we can say hello to them,but cannot shake their hand,or hug them.

Some people we can shake their hand,but do not want to hug them.

Some people we can hug them.

Some people we cannot get along with at all,for they want nothing to do with us,or are persecuting us,but we have to still get along with them,and that is on them.

Like with homosexuals,we may not like their behavior,but we still get along with them,which is easier than getting along with a terroist,but me personally,it bothers me when they have that feminine talk,and walk,and act that way,but I do not hate them,although they get on my nerves,and I want to say,what is wrong with you.If they are not happy being a man,or a woman,that is a part of their natural design,how will they be happy in an unnatural design.

But to them I can say hello,shake their hand,and give them a hug,and get along with them,for their crime is not particularly against people,but the terroist would be different,for I would not get along with them as well,or anybody that does serious crimes against humanity,that offends people,but I would say Jesus loves you,and follow Him,and maybe hello,but that would be it,unless they broke down and cried,and said,I change,then I would get along a little better with them,for the apostle Paul when he went against the Church said,he wasted it with the persecution,and death sentence type attitude he had,but we love the apostle Paul for he changed to be a great saint,and said because of his behavior before he came to the truth,that he is the least of all saints.

 

[Denadii]

Ill be the first one to admit...I don't know how to love these people. Same with all this terrorist stuff...don't know how to love them.

But I do know one that does....not there acts but them.....Jesus.

I'm no super saint and quite frankly I'm at a struggle here. I pray the Lord raises up people who can love them the way the Lord wants.
I do know it effects the church and the saints alike. I will not cast stones but I will not give up ground either.
It's one of those deals where I just help hold up arms to prevail. Not that anyone asked...lol.

I have had acquaintances who were queers. It was understood that I will accept them as long as they did not even try to include me in their quirks....Its not difficult to accept queers....

But terrorists.....My preference is to kill them outright, but I have to think of something vital to me as well...What does my Jesus think of them? Does my Jesus want them to burn? NO! HE wants them to be saved...He died for them just as much as He did for me...My sin was not less that theirs. Sin is sin. God does not differentiate between one sin and another. Hitler could have gone to be with Jesus if he had repented and accepted the salvation Jesus paid for for him. So I line up my thoughts with Jesus' and pray for them....when I remember to.

 

[samuel23]

Here's a site that explains the couple still sings for Hillsong NY

https://sojo.net/articles/why-gay-couple-barred-leading-worship-will-keep-singing-hillsong-church

Can you imagine the apostle Paul visiting that church and commending them for encouraging homosexuality to be respected? I think Paul would have a fit for any church to accept homosexuality in any way shape or form.

 

[DJ2]

No other sin that organizes you say... Hmm..

What about EVERY other religion, aside from true Christianity, that worships false gods?

Do Muslims organize their sin with worship of the moon god? How about ISIS? They organize a whole host of sins. From idolatry to torture to murder!

What about mormons, or jehovah witnesses, or satan worshippers, or even atheists? The list goes on and on.

Are you saying that none of those groups organize around their sin?

What is the point of your post?

Are you concerned that I neglected to add those on your list as organized?

Should they be lumped in with the homosexual culture?

Fine, you got me. They are all wickedly sinful and bound for destruction.

I suspect your response was more of a defense of homosexuality then of not forgetting these other sinful organized groups.

Which is it?

Of all the words I wrote, you focus on what I skipped? Hmm...don't be coy, tell us your honest angle on this subject.

 

[Meggido]

under this logic,God made a mistake of only destroying one city,since all sin is exactly the same.

Talk about silly logic....We are we comparing or suggesting that how God dealt with SIN before Jesus is the same even after how Jesus dealt with SIN on the Cross?

The last time I checked God did not rain down fire and brimstone and use Angels to destroy a modern day Sodom. The greatest SIN is not believing in Jesus Christ and what he did for us.

If you believe as many of Pentecostal WOF followers do that God is judging us for sin now, you need to put down the BVOV mag/devo and get in the Word. The Father gave all judgement to the SON, who will not be judging the world until the end of the age.

I find it quite comical that many Pentecostals only use the old testament today to back up their straw man of tithing for today and judgement for sin today.

 

[DJ2]

It is not the magnitude of the sin but the depths of depravity required to get there. There are enormous natural barriers that must be crossed to reach the point of sodomy.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

And I would add the hardened heart to portray sodomy as normal.

 

[DJ2]

These people already walk in darkness under Satan's influence,so every sin imaginable in their hearts ,they commit .. God calls them reprobates,and an abomination. they know the truth,they have heard time and time again. their choice is Satan and not God. we can call them whatever we want, but God has already labored them.

Your words are harsh but true, much like the discourse between John the Baptist and the Jewish leaders of his day. It is rather easy to fall into the sin of throwing pearls to swine, I see it in churches and on the web. Christians continuing to labor to help those who have no desire to change, no desire for truth and contempt for the Word of God. Christians so naive that they cannot see their own testimony being weaken by their desire to save those who have no desire to be saved. Those publically willing to proclaim their wickedness before the world are beyond help. Time to call a spade a spade and shake the dust and get back to the fields white for harvest.

 

[Rockrz]

Can you imagine the apostle Paul visiting that church and commending them for encouraging homosexuality to be respected? I think Paul would have a fit for any church to accept homosexuality in any way shape or form.

Very few churches now would allow Jesus and His Apostles to have the pulpit...

 

[PennEd]

What is the point of your post?

Are you concerned that I neglected to add those on your list as organized?

Should they be lumped in with the homosexual culture?

Fine, you got me. They are all wickedly sinful and bound for destruction.

I suspect your response was more of a defense of homosexuality then of not forgetting these other sinful organized groups.

Which is it?

Of all the words I wrote, you focus on what I skipped? Hmm...don't be coy, tell us your honest angle on this subject.

I'm not interested in "gotcha" tactics, and as I have stated before, homosexuality is sin, without any caveats. Further, I agree with you that there IS an agenda behind those promoting it globally. Having said that, the "point" of my post was to address the fallacy by you and many, that homosexuality is out there by itself in promoting sin in an organized way, and thus deserves special condemnation from Christians.

The POINT, and agenda, of my post, like I'm striving in all my posts, is to rely on the Holy Spirit, and Christ's directive, to love everybody, spread His Gospel, and pray. It is HIS job, through the Holy Spirit, to reveal to those people what changes they need to make to become more like Him.

Lastly, I didn't skip over ANY of your post. The whole thrust of your post was to hold out homosexuality, and it's organized push, as the ONLY sin out there like that. Obviously it isn't.

Just to refresh what your post was, here it is:

There is a distinct difference that if not understood will confuse the issue of if the homosexual community is just a group of sinners like the rest of us or something more sinister. The distinction is rather clear, there is no sin other then sexual perversion that wants to be classed as a culture/community. No sin organizes lobby groups, parades and festivals to promote their sin.

This effort is purposeful and part of an agenda to force society of bend its knee in acceptance of their chosen lifestyle. They have no desire to change, it is Christianity that must change. It is us who are sinning by not accepting their view of morality.

If Christians cannot see this distinction there is little hope of stopping its effect on the Body of Christ.

 

[oldethennew]

11TIM. 4:2.
Preach The Word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort
with all longsuffering and doctrine.

 

[samuel23]

There is a distinct movement in our time to promote homosexuality that was certainly not there when I was a younger man. They have gained power in schools and in government and in many sports and commercial organizations. We better wake up.

 

[kaylagrl]

There is a distinct movement in our time to promote homosexuality that was certainly not there when I was a younger man. They have gained power in schools and in government and in many sports and commercial organizations. We better wake up.

Theres a lot of things people need to wake up to. Like the protest for Sharia Law this weekend. The push for socialism.The secularism of the church in general. Broken marriages and families. A lot to pray about.

 

[Meggido]

There is a distinct movement in our time to promote homosexuality that was certainly not there when I was a younger man. They have gained power in schools and in government and in many sports and commercial organizations. We better wake up.

Yea just like when the Church fell asleep over prayer in schools. The Church is so busy trying relate to everyone they have become a powerless establishment.

 

[Meggido]

Your words are harsh but true, much like the discourse between John the Baptist and the Jewish leaders of his day. It is rather easy to fall into the sin of throwing pearls to swine, I see it in churches and on the web. Christians continuing to labor to help those who have no desire to change, no desire for truth and contempt for the Word of God. Christians so naive that they cannot see their own testimony being weaken by their desire to save those who have no desire to be saved. Those publically willing to proclaim their wickedness before the world are beyond help. Time to call a spade a spade and shake the dust and get back to the fields white for harvest.

What a contradictory post.

 

[DJ2]

I'm not interested in "gotcha" tactics, and as I have stated before, homosexuality is sin, without any caveats. Further, I agree with you that there IS an agenda behind those promoting it globally. Having said that, the "point" of my post was to address the fallacy by you and many, that homosexuality is out there by itself in promoting sin in an organized way, and thus deserves special condemnation from Christians.

The POINT, and agenda, of my post, like I'm striving in all my posts, is to rely on the Holy Spirit, and Christ's directive, to love everybody, spread His Gospel, and pray. It is HIS job, through the Holy Spirit, to reveal to those people what changes they need to make to become more like Him.

Lastly, I didn't skip over ANY of your post. The whole thrust of your post was to hold out homosexuality, and it's organized push, as the ONLY sin out there like that. Obviously it isn't.

Just to refresh what your post was, here it is:

There is a distinct difference that if not understood will confuse the issue of if the homosexual community is just a group of sinners like the rest of us or something more sinister. The distinction is rather clear, there is no sin other then sexual perversion that wants to be classed as a culture/community. No sin organizes lobby groups, parades and festivals to promote their sin.

This effort is purposeful and part of an agenda to force society of bend its knee in acceptance of their chosen lifestyle. They have no desire to change, it is Christianity that must change. It is us who are sinning by not accepting their view of morality.

If Christians cannot see this distinction there is little hope of stopping its effect on the Body of Christ.

There are no groups organizing adultery parades, there are no lobby groups supporting the acceptance of stealing, there are no festivals celebrating gossip. Sin is an act against the will of God. Adultery, stealing and gossiping are sin. ISIS, Mormons and satan worshippers are not sin but groups of people who sin. Your "gotcha" does not change what is going on before our eyes. In one generation, the perversion of homosexuality has become acceptable to huge sections of our society and even among some Christian churches.

Many churches will accept unrepentant homosexuals as members and leaders, using the excuse that it is just another sin. These same churches would object to accepting Mormons, ISIS and satan worshippers as members and leaders. If sin is sin why would some churches accept unrepentant homosexuals but not others sinners? The answer is you and your ilk.

The Word of God is clear on this issue. There is not wiggly room or grey area. It is sin.

"The POINT, and agenda, of my post, like I'm striving in all my posts, is to rely on the Holy Spirit, and Christ's directive, to love everybody, spread His Gospel, and pray. It is HIS job, through the Holy Spirit, to reveal to those people what changes they need to make to become more like Him"

Your above words are a cop-out. As Christians we know right from wrong. Paul was shocked when the Corinthian church allowed sexual perversion to infest the body. Paul never used such a lame excuse for inaction as you have above. If you do not have the backbone to stand up to such wicked advances of Satan get back on the porch. Your words do much to express surrender then victory over sin.

 

[DJ2]

What a contradictory post.

Could you explain why?

 

[PennEd]

There are no groups organizing adultery parades, there are no lobby groups supporting the acceptance of stealing, there are no festivals celebrating gossip. Sin is an act against the will of God. Adultery, stealing and gossiping are sin. ISIS, Mormons and satan worshippers are not sin but groups of people who sin. Your "gotcha" does not change what is going on before our eyes. In one generation, the perversion of homosexuality has become acceptable to huge sections of our society and even among some Christian churches.

Many churches will accept unrepentant homosexuals as members and leaders, using the excuse that it is just another sin. These same churches would object to accepting Mormons, ISIS and satan worshippers as members and leaders. If sin is sin why would some churches accept unrepentant homosexuals but not others sinners? The answer is you and your ilk.

The Word of God is clear on this issue. There is not wiggly room or grey area. It is sin.

"The POINT, and agenda, of my post, like I'm striving in all my posts, is to rely on the Holy Spirit, and Christ's directive, to love everybody, spread His Gospel, and pray. It is HIS job, through the Holy Spirit, to reveal to those people what changes they need to make to become more like Him"

Your above words are a cop-out. As Christians we know right from wrong. Paul was shocked when the Corinthian church allowed sexual perversion to infest the body. Paul never used such a lame excuse for inaction as you have above. If you do not have the backbone to stand up to such wicked advances of Satan get back on the porch. Your words do much to express surrender then victory over sin.

Alrighty then. You and your family be blessed Friend!