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popeye

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The giants came back after the flood because one of the wives of Noah's sons had the gene. Simple. You have to look at variables. A scientist or detective in the making you are not.
Another theory would be they muddied up the gene pool a second time,exactly the way they did it the first time.
 

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Another theory would be they muddied up the gene pool a second time,exactly the way they did it the first time.
That could be but is unlikely because the book of Enoch said God threw them in jail for a number of thousands of years. In fact they were due to be let go around the time of the industrial revolution. Coincidence?
 
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sevenseas

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It is not speculation because their is physical proof and to many collaborating writings.


Again a case of my saying less then what I was thinking. I guess I don't like long posts.

I meant as the Bible is not as specific in regards to the topic as it is for say the doctrine of salvation. There is no room for speculation on that.

I've followed up on outside Biblical sources, but I hesitate on what I believe 100%.

I do believe angels procreated with human women though. The Bible says they left their first estate or state; so perhaps they became capable of physical relations when not created with that in mind.

I will go so far as to state I think people are in denial when they say this did not happen.
 

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Again a case of my saying less then what I was thinking. I guess I don't like long posts.

I meant as the Bible is not as specific in regards to the topic as it is for say the doctrine of salvation. There is no room for speculation on that.

I've followed up on outside Biblical sources, but I hesitate on what I believe 100%.

I do believe angels procreated with human women though. The Bible says they left their first estate or state; so perhaps they became capable of physical relations when not created with that in mind.

I will go so far as to state I think people are in denial when they say this did not happen.
Fair enough. We're cool. Carry on daughter of God.
 
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Again a case of my saying less then what I was thinking. I guess I don't like long posts.

I meant as the Bible is not as specific in regards to the topic as it is for say the doctrine of salvation. There is no room for speculation on that.

I've followed up on outside Biblical sources, but I hesitate on what I believe 100%.

I do believe angels procreated with human women though. The Bible says they left their first estate or state; so perhaps they became capable of physical relations when not created with that in mind.

I will go so far as to state I think people are in denial when they say this did not happen.
And again we cannot deny the fact that in Jude their actions are compared to what took place in Sodom and Gomorrah....in the Greek it is sexually applied.....I will again say that their is a heavenly form and a fallen earthly form....

In Genesis 3:15 we see the SEED of the WOMAN (JESUS) contradicted against the SEED of the SERPENT......it stands to reason that if the SEED of the WOMAN is literal.....then the SEED of the Serpent must also be literal......
 
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Good news translation whay is this translation allowed and endorced

[h=1]Genesis 6Good News Translation (GNT)[/h] [h=3]Human Wickedness[/h]6 When people had spread all over the world, and daughters were being born, [SUP]2 [/SUP]some of the heavenly beings[SUP][a][/SUP] saw that these young women were beautiful, so they took the ones they liked
 
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popeye

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Folks I realize that this is not a critical issue, however I hear so much about the giants in the bible being the offspring of angels and humans...THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT. There were two declarations made, one was that there were giants in the earth in those days...STOP... the other was that when the sons of God(angels) took the daughters of men that they bore men of great ability. Two things that it is describing, one is giants, who were before and after the flood, the other is a hybrid between an angel and a human that only appeared before the flood. Think please, for a five foot six inch ,130 pound woman, to produce a ten foot eight hundred pound man, that would mean that her husband had to be fifteen feet tall and weigh fourteen hundred pounds. It would be like trying to cross a male mastiff with a female wiener dog. First the sex act is not gonna happen and even if it did the wiener dog would die way before birth time...same with a human woman trying to have a sixty pound baby...not going to happen. The offspring of women and angels were normal in height and weight but built with incredible strength and speed and toughness. The giants are kind of a mystery since they were before and after the flood and I have never been able to trace their ancestors with any success.
however I hear so much about the giants in the bible being the offspring of angels and humans...THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT.
Job 1;6 Now there was a day
when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said,From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.


.........angels called "the sons of God"
 
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Originally Posted by Ariel82

Jesus descended from the line of Jacob via Judah via his mother Mary.


I know but not all of jacobs sons where Good.
As you know ariel genes can be passed down and not passed down... for instance a mother who has a condition that is hereditary from her mother passed her gene down to two of her children but not the other two.. I know im with one of her daughters now...

Its the same for jacobs sons some of them had the gene of spiritual d.n.a from angels some didnt,, why because jacob had diffrent wifes.. so can you get my meaning
 
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The Book of Enoch is a fraud.

How can that which is spirit, mingle with the flesh to give birth to spirit?

John 3:[SUP]6 [/SUP]That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

How can in Enoch chapter 8 testify to some things in creation that did not come forth when God spoke it to come forth, being punished in Heaven when scripture testify that God's word does not return void?

Isaiah 55:[SUP]10 [/SUP]For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:[SUP]11 [/SUP]So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.[SUP]12 [/SUP]For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.

So either you believe Enoch over scripture or you believe scripture over this fraud of a book supposedly written by Enoch.

The sons of God cannot be used as a reference to angels which scripture testifies God would never join them in marriage.

Mark 12:[SUP]24 [/SUP]And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?[SUP]25 [/SUP]For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
 
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The Book of Enoch is a fraud.

How can that which is spirit, mingle with the flesh to give birth to spirit?
Ok ill shed some light...
When demon possession occurs The persons soul is taken over ,,, this is spiritual theft.. d.n.a mutilation of our spiritual d.n.a ,,identity theft satan and his angels came to steal and destroy.. when a demon possessed man mates with a women the spiritual.d.n.a is passed down from the angels.
 
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And now the question remains....can those those born of angels be set free cleansed
 
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willybob

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In answer to the OP...Tyndale's translation is more accurate "there were tyrants in the land". These are the mighty men of renown that corrupted the ways of God. Tyndale equated them to the Pope and Bishop Cardinals, and Priests of his day. Today they are the likes of the Pope, Cardinal Dolman, Joel Osteen, John McCarther, Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Joseph Prince, Paul Washer, Benny Henn, Ken Copeland, and a plethora of others to long to list that rule over organized Christianly. These mighty men of renown are giants in the earth subverting whole households dispensing the mark of the beast 24/7 upon the multitudes while merchandizing them at the same time..... They through Zondervan, and Rupert Murdoch, own the TV stations, book stores, radio waves, and seminary cemeteries such that the true gospel can not be exchanged (buy or sell) within Mystery Babylon the outer court
 
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It is my estimation that there is legions upon legions of spiritual angels living in people..i mean billions..
 

JosephsDreams

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And now the question remains....can those those born of angels be set free cleansed
Excellent query. One that is so obvious that I can not believe I never considered in all the years I studied this subject.
I would have to say that if it is possible the individual would seek out God, then yes, they can be clean. God in His mercy will see to it.
I guess the real question os does that hybrid person have the necessary tools needed to instigate the process, or are they to polluted?
Would God give them them a special judgement curve?
 

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In answer to the OP...Tyndale's translation is more accurate "there were tyrants in the land". These are the mighty men of renown that corrupted the ways of God. Tyndale equated them to the Pope and Bishop Cardinals, and Priests of his day. Today they are the likes of the Pope, Cardinal Dolman, Joel Osteen, John McCarther, Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Joseph Prince, Paul Washer, Benny Henn, Ken Copeland, and a plethora of others to long to list that rule over organized Christianly. These mighty men of renown are giants in the earth subverting whole households dispensing the mark of the beast 24/7 upon the multitudes while merchandizing them at the same time..... They through Zondervan, and Rupert Murdoch, own the TV stations, book stores, radio waves, and seminary cemeteries such that the true gospel can not be exchanged (buy or sell) within Mystery Babylon the outer court
I do not subscribe to that perspective one bit.
 
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Based on what evidence or implications?
Based upon my life time study of genealogy and there capabilities..and comparing truth for truth and seing spirits with my own eyes take up the identity of a human being.
 
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A spirit took up the identity of my best friend to make me hate my brother..

I could see it and my brother couldnt and i saw its apearance change in front of my eyes