Give us these kind of men
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See, you don't even pay attention, do you? Where did I say I hate people? That's right, I didn't.
In addition, your callow accusation, I addressed it, so yes, that part is about you. As far as you being a false teacher, I don't know, I haven't paid attention to your teaching, all I've seen from you as of now is callow behavior and false accusations on my person.
In addition, your callow accusation, I addressed it, so yes, that part is about you. As far as you being a false teacher, I don't know, I haven't paid attention to your teaching, all I've seen from you as of now is callow behavior and false accusations on my person.
The OP wasn't intended to be an exhaustive presentation of the Gospel. The intent was in the description, try to pay better attention and stay on topic. It also follows the pattern of 2 Timothy 3 and 4. If you want to present the Gospel, then go for it.
And the hilarious thing? I am giving a video that clearly rebukes a false teacher, and your post is attempting to rebuke me for, well, offering a rebuke of a false teacher. LOL!!!!!
Maybe get the log out of your eye? Thanks.
And the hilarious thing? I am giving a video that clearly rebukes a false teacher, and your post is attempting to rebuke me for, well, offering a rebuke of a false teacher. LOL!!!!!
Maybe get the log out of your eye? Thanks.
But that can't be true, for the writer of the OP never mentions God, so he must not be part of this.
How we are to view all the people that are supposedly heretics to someone or to some group? I have posted this before and most likely will have to in the future too when these type of topics come up.
Typically this brings out the malice and bitterness in others that love to slander others and want to do so with impunity because they don't agree with a certain subject like another believer does. They cry that they are holding up for the "truth" - Their truth as they see it is what is really meant and if you don't agree - you too are a heretic and they will bite and devour you too.
For example to those that believe in speaking in tongues and actually do pray in tongues on a daily basis to their Father - they have been called heretics by whole denominations because they don't agree with this doctrine.
There are websites dedicated to the heretic Billy Graham, Billy Sunday, Charles Spurgeon, Charles Stanley, D.L. Moody, C.S. Lewis, John McArthur, Joel Osteen, Paul Washer, Joseph Prince, Dr. Michael Brown, Justin Peters, Bill Johnson, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Andrew Wommack...etc..basically anyone who is known has a website dedicated to their "heresies".
There are even websites dedicated to the heretic apostle Paul because his epistles "conflict" with some of Jesus' words in some people's minds.
Basically these self-proclaimed heretic hunters have a beef about some thing with what someone else believes and so they are now "heretics" such as healing or speaking in tongues or water baptism done in what name, or how they would answer a question on salvation...etc.
Because they disagree with them - they feel that now they are free to slander them - call them names and create malice towards them.
Their motto is: "If people don't believe some scriptures in the way that "they do or our group" - they are heretics and they try to prove it with "their" version of what the scriptures say.
" This is not what we were taught in "my" church or in our whole church tradition.
It's the nature of the beast. Martin Luther was a heretic to the catholic church at the time because for 1300 years prior to Luther they had always "believed" the same way.
Where these types cross the line is when they turn a disagreement that they have with someone doctrinally on a secondary issue such as healing, or how they would answer questions ...etc and turn it into "So and so is a false teacher and they are in error and a heretic/satanist/controlled by a demon" type stuff.
They then feel "it is their duty to castigate them publicly." - but in reality it could be a cloak for them to practice their malice and bitterness towards others. The flesh is a deceitful little thing.
Typically this brings out the malice and bitterness in others that love to slander others and want to do so with impunity because they don't agree with a certain subject like another believer does. They cry that they are holding up for the "truth" - Their truth as they see it is what is really meant and if you don't agree - you too are a heretic and they will bite and devour you too.
For example to those that believe in speaking in tongues and actually do pray in tongues on a daily basis to their Father - they have been called heretics by whole denominations because they don't agree with this doctrine.
There are websites dedicated to the heretic Billy Graham, Billy Sunday, Charles Spurgeon, Charles Stanley, D.L. Moody, C.S. Lewis, John McArthur, Joel Osteen, Paul Washer, Joseph Prince, Dr. Michael Brown, Justin Peters, Bill Johnson, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Andrew Wommack...etc..basically anyone who is known has a website dedicated to their "heresies".
There are even websites dedicated to the heretic apostle Paul because his epistles "conflict" with some of Jesus' words in some people's minds.
Basically these self-proclaimed heretic hunters have a beef about some thing with what someone else believes and so they are now "heretics" such as healing or speaking in tongues or water baptism done in what name, or how they would answer a question on salvation...etc.
Because they disagree with them - they feel that now they are free to slander them - call them names and create malice towards them.
Their motto is: "If people don't believe some scriptures in the way that "they do or our group" - they are heretics and they try to prove it with "their" version of what the scriptures say.
" This is not what we were taught in "my" church or in our whole church tradition.
It's the nature of the beast. Martin Luther was a heretic to the catholic church at the time because for 1300 years prior to Luther they had always "believed" the same way.
Where these types cross the line is when they turn a disagreement that they have with someone doctrinally on a secondary issue such as healing, or how they would answer questions ...etc and turn it into "So and so is a false teacher and they are in error and a heretic/satanist/controlled by a demon" type stuff.
They then feel "it is their duty to castigate them publicly." - but in reality it could be a cloak for them to practice their malice and bitterness towards others. The flesh is a deceitful little thing.
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I really like this post.
Too often people don't teach the WHOLE gospel and that causes a lot of issues. Especially if they reject half of the gospel because they don't like the message or lack faith.
Two sides to the coin of half the gospel:
Joel Osteen with his easy believism, witchcraft soaked prosperity gospel
And
Latter day Saints gospel of working to get ridership of your own world.
Both filled with false promises and lies.
However I ask again what does God tell us to do when we spot someone preaching a false gospel?
We have two extremes:
1. Ignore them
2. Burn them as a witch or verbally crucify them
God tells us to instead pray for our enemies. Yet how many people proclaim the need for prayer?
Yes Mark them. Yes warn others that they teach false doctrines. Yes preach the true gospel.
Just don't forget to pray for those deceived to be saved as well.
Too often people don't teach the WHOLE gospel and that causes a lot of issues. Especially if they reject half of the gospel because they don't like the message or lack faith.
Two sides to the coin of half the gospel:
Joel Osteen with his easy believism, witchcraft soaked prosperity gospel
And
Latter day Saints gospel of working to get ridership of your own world.
Both filled with false promises and lies.
However I ask again what does God tell us to do when we spot someone preaching a false gospel?
We have two extremes:
1. Ignore them
2. Burn them as a witch or verbally crucify them
God tells us to instead pray for our enemies. Yet how many people proclaim the need for prayer?
Yes Mark them. Yes warn others that they teach false doctrines. Yes preach the true gospel.
Just don't forget to pray for those deceived to be saved as well.
Its not a personal attack on Joel and Victoria Osteen's character. It is exposing the heresies they teach. We are attacking the message, not the messenger.
We, as believers, need to use discernment, when we hear someone's message. Victoria stated we don't go to church to worship God. Then why go? To play bingo? To give to their ministry? To give ourselves a pat on the back? No. We go to church to worship Him.
Then Joel melted like a snowball by not standing up for Jesus. These are huge Clifford the Big Red Flags.
We, as believers, need to use discernment, when we hear someone's message. Victoria stated we don't go to church to worship God. Then why go? To play bingo? To give to their ministry? To give ourselves a pat on the back? No. We go to church to worship Him.
Then Joel melted like a snowball by not standing up for Jesus. These are huge Clifford the Big Red Flags.
I have said 2x times in this thread and in many others in times past that I don't believe in the so-called prosperity gospel the way I have seen some people preach it. I also don't believe in tithing either. I believe that in Christ we are already blessed with everything that we need. That He alone is our provider. That we are to give from our hearts governed by the love of God in us which is a fruit of the Spirit within us.
Most Christians couldn't handle true prosperity from the Lord. We are way too immature still for that to happen.
BUT - I am not going to put up videos castigating those people publicly that do believe and teach tithing and in malice call them heretics and a "cult" and full of witchcraft trying to manipulate others and "exposing" to all the world just how wrong they are and that they are just covetous and want your money for their "vision".
Most Christians couldn't handle true prosperity from the Lord. We are way too immature still for that to happen.
BUT - I am not going to put up videos castigating those people publicly that do believe and teach tithing and in malice call them heretics and a "cult" and full of witchcraft trying to manipulate others and "exposing" to all the world just how wrong they are and that they are just covetous and want your money for their "vision".
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