"God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
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Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
Gen 6:9
9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
KJV
perfect = תָּמִים = complete or sound or, as in this case, having integrity. This word has no connection with sinless or flawless.
Gen 6:9
9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
KJV
perfect = תָּמִים = complete or sound or, as in this case, having integrity. This word has no connection with sinless or flawless.
G
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
I think We are just in semantics on #2 Ken. Human good(evil) is denying the Holy Spirit to work through you. We quench Him with our own works and deny His working.
If I understand you correctly, you are saying the exact same thing as me on #2, just different words.
I think We are just in semantics on #2 Ken. Human good(evil) is denying the Holy Spirit to work through you. We quench Him with our own works and deny His working.
If I understand you correctly, you are saying the exact same thing as me on #2, just different words.
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
If you state something is true, it's for YOU to demonstrate through scripture that it is true. It's a fallacy for you state something is true and then expect someone else to disprove it.
I don't care what the Jews did or thought. I don't claim that Jesus did away with the law. Paul said that the law's power to condemn us has been abolished, i.e., rendered null and void. It was never meant as a way to make righteous; it demanded righteousness. Now that it's power to condemn has been removed the law is only useful for instruction and edification.
The "great commission" was given to 11 disciples whom Jesus personally trained and with whom he made the new covenant. Not everyone is an evangelist or apostle sent out into all the world to make disciples. Far from it. Most are gifted for other work in the church.
If you state something is true, it's for YOU to demonstrate through scripture that it is true. It's a fallacy for you state something is true and then expect someone else to disprove it.
I don't care what the Jews did or thought. I don't claim that Jesus did away with the law. Paul said that the law's power to condemn us has been abolished, i.e., rendered null and void. It was never meant as a way to make righteous; it demanded righteousness. Now that it's power to condemn has been removed the law is only useful for instruction and edification.
The "great commission" was given to 11 disciples whom Jesus personally trained and with whom he made the new covenant. Not everyone is an evangelist or apostle sent out into all the world to make disciples. Far from it. Most are gifted for other work in the church.
G
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
Was just taking your post a step further. I think mystery doctrine is sorely missing from most teachers in todays assemblies.
I wasn't saying that YOU are missing mystery doctrine. It is a teaching that is lacking everywhere from my experience.
Was just taking your post a step further. I think mystery doctrine is sorely missing from most teachers in todays assemblies.
I wasn't saying that YOU are missing mystery doctrine. It is a teaching that is lacking everywhere from my experience.
K
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
I do not like the use or term of human good being evil, the reason being is because the bible says it is only wrong if it is done without faith and love.
With faith in the Lord and doing it out of love it is no longer filthy rags, it is only filthy rags if the reasoning behind them is not for the faith and love in Christ because then it is only for self.
The Holy Spirit molds us to be more and more like the Lord and to walk as He has set the standard for, and any other doctrine that teaches other wise is not in the truth. This is why the actions of a believer or works which some want to continue to look at as a dirty word are proof of one who is truly saved.
They do not maintain or gain salvation only faith in the Lord that puts us under grace can do that, but that faith being a true faith will not be void of these works and fruit of the Spirit.
A professing faith that is void of these things the Word of God clearly says and shows they are not saved, nor do they have the Holy Spirit abiding in them. For the truth can not be in a person who walks contradictory to the teachings of the Lord !!!
I do not like the use or term of human good being evil, the reason being is because the bible says it is only wrong if it is done without faith and love.
With faith in the Lord and doing it out of love it is no longer filthy rags, it is only filthy rags if the reasoning behind them is not for the faith and love in Christ because then it is only for self.
The Holy Spirit molds us to be more and more like the Lord and to walk as He has set the standard for, and any other doctrine that teaches other wise is not in the truth. This is why the actions of a believer or works which some want to continue to look at as a dirty word are proof of one who is truly saved.
They do not maintain or gain salvation only faith in the Lord that puts us under grace can do that, but that faith being a true faith will not be void of these works and fruit of the Spirit.
A professing faith that is void of these things the Word of God clearly says and shows they are not saved, nor do they have the Holy Spirit abiding in them. For the truth can not be in a person who walks contradictory to the teachings of the Lord !!!
F
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
"Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.” (Rom 7:4-7)
In case you think Paul is speaking of something other than the Ten Commandments,, the moral Law, take special note that Paul specifically mentions the law of “you shall not covet”. That’s one of the Big Ten and that's the Old Letter….from which we are told we are dead to, delivered from, having died to, so that we should serve in the NEWNESS of the SPIRIT…..AND NOT….in the OLDNESS of the LETTER.
"Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.” (Rom 7:4-7)
In case you think Paul is speaking of something other than the Ten Commandments,, the moral Law, take special note that Paul specifically mentions the law of “you shall not covet”. That’s one of the Big Ten and that's the Old Letter….from which we are told we are dead to, delivered from, having died to, so that we should serve in the NEWNESS of the SPIRIT…..AND NOT….in the OLDNESS of the LETTER.
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
Amen to that one. The older I am the more mysteries there are. Some are just for you, or just for me, and for others.. Our Father is just that personal. After all, He created each one of us. He knows every corpuscle in our body, every hair on our head; He knows all of our pains, our doubts, and our cares, and by Jesus Christ, He cares for each. He is amazing, and come His great and terrible day, we shall all learn once and for all, all of His mysteries,. God bless you always...
Amen to that one. The older I am the more mysteries there are. Some are just for you, or just for me, and for others.. Our Father is just that personal. After all, He created each one of us. He knows every corpuscle in our body, every hair on our head; He knows all of our pains, our doubts, and our cares, and by Jesus Christ, He cares for each. He is amazing, and come His great and terrible day, we shall all learn once and for all, all of His mysteries,. God bless you always...
K
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
I never said the law was put in place to make us righteous, but the moral aspect of it is still valid for believers today.
It was the written ordinances that were abolished and done away with because they brought death instead of life, because our flesh is weak. Apostle Paul clearly shows this in Romans 7:10, as it was not a failure of the law, the failure falls on us and our fleshly disobedience.
By the Spirit we are given a better easier set of standards to uphold that the Holy Spirit will help us to continue in because of the fruit that He will work in us to abide by.
You should care what the Jews thought because they have better insight to the laws then we do, and they were given the new covenant teachings from the Lord before Gentiles were.
Last the part of being baptized and observing all that He commanded is for all believers, please stop focusing on just the evangelism part which is just one part of the commission. As observing all that He commanded and getting baptized is for all believers in Christ !!!
I never said the law was put in place to make us righteous, but the moral aspect of it is still valid for believers today.
It was the written ordinances that were abolished and done away with because they brought death instead of life, because our flesh is weak. Apostle Paul clearly shows this in Romans 7:10, as it was not a failure of the law, the failure falls on us and our fleshly disobedience.
By the Spirit we are given a better easier set of standards to uphold that the Holy Spirit will help us to continue in because of the fruit that He will work in us to abide by.
You should care what the Jews thought because they have better insight to the laws then we do, and they were given the new covenant teachings from the Lord before Gentiles were.
Last the part of being baptized and observing all that He commanded is for all believers, please stop focusing on just the evangelism part which is just one part of the commission. As observing all that He commanded and getting baptized is for all believers in Christ !!!
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
lets go to last 2 chapters Revelation 21 and 22. In Revelation 21:8, But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whore-mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 22:14-16, Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
lets go to last 2 chapters Revelation 21 and 22. In Revelation 21:8, But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whore-mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 22:14-16, Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
(Without seeing the video or knowing it's context, which is pretty important when asking for someone's take on what another person said,) I'm in partial agreement with the preacher.
God only gives commands that are capable of being kept, but we fall short in keeping them on a daily basis. Not because it is impossible to do so, but just because we are fallen and carnal creatures. Therefore, any command God gives us is capable of being kept, but not perfectly all the time.
(Again, it would be nice to see the entire video without taking a snippet from it and making judgements on what he was implying.)
(Without seeing the video or knowing it's context, which is pretty important when asking for someone's take on what another person said,) I'm in partial agreement with the preacher.
God only gives commands that are capable of being kept, but we fall short in keeping them on a daily basis. Not because it is impossible to do so, but just because we are fallen and carnal creatures. Therefore, any command God gives us is capable of being kept, but not perfectly all the time.
(Again, it would be nice to see the entire video without taking a snippet from it and making judgements on what he was implying.)
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments. KJV Ἐὰν ἀγαπᾶτέ με τὰς ἐντολὰς τὰς ἐμὰς τηρήσετε
Beginning a conditional sentence with Ἐὰν anticipates a positive outcome and has the force of since.
The Greek ἀγαπᾶτέ means seek my welfare or seek what I require.
Jesus, speaking to believers, says: Since you seek what I require, keep my commandments.
Note that Jesus says: Keep MY commandments, NOT the requirement of the Law.
John 15:12
12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
KJV
This is my commandment, that ye seek one another's well being, as I have sought yours.
What contributes to each other's well being is being brought under liberty in Christ not being brought under Law.
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments. KJV Ἐὰν ἀγαπᾶτέ με τὰς ἐντολὰς τὰς ἐμὰς τηρήσετε
Beginning a conditional sentence with Ἐὰν anticipates a positive outcome and has the force of since.
The Greek ἀγαπᾶτέ means seek my welfare or seek what I require.
Jesus, speaking to believers, says: Since you seek what I require, keep my commandments.
Note that Jesus says: Keep MY commandments, NOT the requirement of the Law.
John 15:12
12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
KJV
This is my commandment, that ye seek one another's well being, as I have sought yours.
What contributes to each other's well being is being brought under liberty in Christ not being brought under Law.
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
Tamim
" Beauty is in the eye of the beholder " :dontknow: really what's the exact words or
the exact interpretation coz one of our brethren heard this only when he saw a
mother and her child then
the mother telling to his child
" your the most handsome/beautiful thing that I've seen " in the entire world . ...
maybe I'll figure this out sooner or later :blush:
:now: we've never seen this street preacher face to face so
we just want to ask what was his/her doctrines?
this are "the letters" . ...
are words "in details" (physical or spiritual) . ...
our lord Jesus Christ speaking the "words of truth" . ...
brothers and sisters
Hope we are not offending anyone or someone here
:ty:
Tamim
" Beauty is in the eye of the beholder " :dontknow: really what's the exact words or
the exact interpretation coz one of our brethren heard this only when he saw a
mother and her child then
the mother telling to his child
" your the most handsome/beautiful thing that I've seen " in the entire world . ...
maybe I'll figure this out sooner or later :blush:
:now: we've never seen this street preacher face to face so
we just want to ask what was his/her doctrines?
this are "the letters" . ...
are words "in details" (physical or spiritual) . ...
our lord Jesus Christ speaking the "words of truth" . ...
brothers and sisters
Hope we are not offending anyone or someone here
:ty:
E
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
and again we will go to the truth.
That as far as James said, Only one sin will get is into deep trouble with god. and put in in that lake of fire, We will be there wil all the other sinners.
But by the grace of God, and in faith and trut in his provision, We who in faith obey his commands, Will not go there.
How often does john have to be quoted before people will finally see what he is saying.
He who sins has never seen God or known God
He who is born of God can not sin, because he has been born of Good
That whoever has faiht in him has passed from life to death, thus shall not come under judgment.
There is only one thing which separates a person who does Gods commands, and those who do not FAITH!!
I can appear to be doing Gods commands (religion) but what good is it if I do not have FAITH in CHRIST to GIVE ME what HE PROMISED based on HIS DEATH?
it is useless
and again we will go to the truth.
That as far as James said, Only one sin will get is into deep trouble with god. and put in in that lake of fire, We will be there wil all the other sinners.
But by the grace of God, and in faith and trut in his provision, We who in faith obey his commands, Will not go there.
How often does john have to be quoted before people will finally see what he is saying.
He who sins has never seen God or known God
He who is born of God can not sin, because he has been born of Good
That whoever has faiht in him has passed from life to death, thus shall not come under judgment.
There is only one thing which separates a person who does Gods commands, and those who do not FAITH!!
I can appear to be doing Gods commands (religion) but what good is it if I do not have FAITH in CHRIST to GIVE ME what HE PROMISED based on HIS DEATH?
it is useless
E
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
yep and how are you at the other six, not to mention the many others which God has commanded.
As a reminder, this is what God requires.
James 2:10
For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
so what good is it if I have lived my whole life obedient to the law. And stumbled in one point my whole life?
NOTHING, I am GUILTY and will spend eternity in hell with those sinners.
yep and how are you at the other six, not to mention the many others which God has commanded.
As a reminder, this is what God requires.
James 2:10
For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
so what good is it if I have lived my whole life obedient to the law. And stumbled in one point my whole life?
NOTHING, I am GUILTY and will spend eternity in hell with those sinners.
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
n ἀgapate with entolas keep tas tas emas
:rofl: but we can't keep them as humans so we put it in our heart and soul
our hearts belongs to our lord god the only begotten son and
Our soul belongs to our lord god the father almighty who is good and it is impossible for him to lie . ...
this is an example of the things to come . ...
for we humans cannot fight which we cannot defeat . ... ( perhaps not without giving a fight :rofl: )
please correct us if we are wrong :ty:
n ἀgapate with entolas keep tas tas emas
:rofl: but we can't keep them as humans so we put it in our heart and soul
our hearts belongs to our lord god the only begotten son and
Our soul belongs to our lord god the father almighty who is good and it is impossible for him to lie . ...
this is an example of the things to come . ...
for we humans cannot fight which we cannot defeat . ... ( perhaps not without giving a fight :rofl: )
please correct us if we are wrong :ty:
Re: "God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.
Hm, this clarifies the street preacher's position even more clearly eternally-gratefull. You were right that the perspective he offers is a sinless perfectionist's doctrine.
[video]https://youtu.be/orsni17TulM?t=2077[/video]
Hm, this clarifies the street preacher's position even more clearly eternally-gratefull. You were right that the perspective he offers is a sinless perfectionist's doctrine.
[video]https://youtu.be/orsni17TulM?t=2077[/video]