God's Covenant With the Jews Is Everlasting? His Covenant With Israel Is Everlastin

[eternally-gratefull]

Check out the Parable of the Vine Growers. See what Jesus says about the Vineyard. Check out John 4 ......a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. Israel are God's people in Christ alone...the Jews practice an anti christ religion...Jesus calls it a synagogue of satan....there is no promise to them...they are out of covenant with God. They re- enter that covenant in Christ. Paul believes that will happen and they will turn to Christ and this will be a blessing to the world but it has nothing to do with the physical land.

God did not lie, God also keeps his promise,

In lev 26, God gives out the punishment for their disobedience, he also gives out instructions for their restoration.,

Many OT prophesies say they will rebel and be taken by the gentiles.

we know the northern kingdom was taken by syria.

we know the southern kingdom was taken by babylon, and even though they never repented were able to return after 70 years according to the prophesy of jeremiah. But they never had complete control of their land and did not liove in peace.

OT prophesies state both the northern and southern kingdoms will be restored. never happened.
NT prophesies of paul states right now Isreal is our enemy because of the gospel. but beloved because of the promise.. why? the promise still stands. God does not go back on his word. The time of the gentile is now., but they, like Isreal, will fall away, until that time the things of God are hidden from them, but when the time of the gentile is complete. Isreal will be restored.

You have to ignore alot of prophesy and promises of God to believe the way you do my friend.

 

[meecha]

God did not lie, God also keeps his promise,

In lev 26, God gives out the punishment for their disobedience, he also gives out instructions for their restoration.,

Many OT prophesies say they will rebel and be taken by the gentiles.

we know the northern kingdom was taken by syria.

we know the southern kingdom was taken by babylon, and even though they never repented were able to return after 70 years according to the prophesy of jeremiah. But they never had complete control of their land and did not liove in peace.

OT prophesies state both the northern and southern kingdoms will be restored. never happened.
NT prophesies of paul states right now Isreal is our enemy because of the gospel. but beloved because of the promise.. why? the promise still stands. God does not go back on his word. The time of the gentile is now., but they, like Isreal, will fall away, until that time the things of God are hidden from them, but when the time of the gentile is complete. Isreal will be restored.

You have to ignore alot of prophesy and promises of God to believe the way you do my friend.

you have to ignore the parable of the vine growers to believe what you believe

 

[1still_waters]

Dispies LOVE the shadows. Others love living in the light of the SON.

Heb 10
10 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship

You Dispies can keep worrying about the old mt zion and Jerusalem. We've come to the new Jerusalem.

Heb 12
22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

you have to ignore the parable of the vine growers to believe what you believe

So I ignore half the OT and Pauls writtings in romans eleven just because of one parable?? wow!

Again, The OT prophesied that even what the parable of the vinegrowers represented would happen. But it also prophesies that these same group of people will one day repent and be restored.

I don't have to ignore the parable. The OT prophesied it would happen. You on the other hand ignore what the Ot says will happen long after the rejection of the son.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Dispies LOVE the shadows. Others love living in the light of the SON.

Heb 10
10 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship

You Dispies can keep worrying about the old mt zion and Jerusalem. We've come to the new Jerusalem.

Heb 12
22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

As I have said over and over again. There is a spiritual promise, given to those who are blessed through the seed of abraham (of which you are speaking of)

and their is a physical promise given only to the children of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

Isreal was promised land. The church was not

Isreal was promised they would live in peace with no fear of their enemies, That they would prosper in all they do, and not suffer persecution or tribulation if they heeded the voice of God. The church told even if they heed the voice of God, they will still suffer persecution, tribulation etc etc.

Why people want to try to take two promises and try to make them one I will never understand. There is no symbol in "I give this land to you and your descendents after you (only through the promised son) as an eternal inheritance)

If God will not keep his unconditional covenant with Abraham physical descendants, there is no reason to believe he will keep his unconditioned promise to us who came to him in faith.

 

[edward99]

As I have said over and over again. There is a spiritual promise, given to those who are blessed through the seed of abraham (of which you are speaking of)

and their is a physical promise given only to the children of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

Isreal was promised land. The church was not

Isreal was promised they would live in peace with no fear of their enemies, That they would prosper in all they do, and not suffer persecution or tribulation if they heeded the voice of God. The church told even if they heed the voice of God, they will still suffer persecution, tribulation etc etc.

Why people want to try to take two promises and try to make them one I will never understand. There is no symbol in "I give this land to you and your descendents after you (only through the promised son) as an eternal inheritance)

If God will not keep his unconditional covenant with Abraham physical descendants, there is no reason to believe he will keep his unconditioned promise to us who came to him in faith.

Three promises to Abraham Fulfilled
Introduction:


1. Pre-tribulation Rapture and dispensationalists teach the false doctrine that God failed to fulfill the three promises he made to Abraham in fleshly Israel and the church (spiritual Israel).


2. All Premillennialists reject the plain Bible teaching that Israel possessed all the land God promises to Israel through Abraham.


3. For example, God said that if Israel got all the land promised, then they would have six cities of refuge.

a. "Therefore, I command you, saying, 'You shall set aside three cities for yourself.' "If the LORD your God enlarges your territory, just as He has sworn to your fathers, and gives you all the land which He promised to give your fathers— if you carefully observe all this commandment which I command you today, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in His ways always—then you shall add three more cities for yourself, besides these three. " (Deuteronomy 19:7-9)

b. Joshua 20:7-9 lists six cities of refuge - Kadesh, Shechem, Hebron, Bezer, Ramoth, and Golan.

c. Therefore God gave them all the land and premillennialism is utterly refuted!


4. Plain Bible passages say that Israel got all the land promised Abraham:

a. "So the LORD gave Israel all the land which He had sworn to give to their fathers, and they possessed it and lived in it. And the LORD gave them rest on every side, according to all that He had sworn to their fathers, and no one of all their enemies stood before them; the LORD gave all their enemies into their hand. Not one of the good promises which the LORD had made to the house of Israel failed; all came to pass. " (Joshua 21:43-45)

b. "Now behold, today I am going the way of all the earth, and you know in all your hearts and in all your souls that not one word of all the good words which the LORD your God spoke concerning you has failed; all have been fulfilled for you, not one of them has failed. "It shall come about that just as all the good words which the LORD your God spoke to you have come upon you, so the LORD will bring upon you all the threats, until He has destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God has given you. " (Joshua 23:14-15)

c. Josh 24:28 Then Joshua dismissed the people, each to his inheritance.

d. 2 Sam 8:3 David defeated Hadadezer...as he went to restore his rule at the River [Euphrates].

e. 1 Kings 4:21 Now Solomon ruled over all the kingdoms from the [Euphrates] River to the land of the Philistines and to the border of Egypt; they brought tribute and served Solomon

f. 2 Chr 9:26 And he was the ruler over all the kings from the Euphrates River even to the land of the Philistines, and as far as the border of Egypt.

g. Neh 9:8 And Thou didst find Abraham's heart faithful before Thee, and didst make a covenant with him to give him the land of the Canaanite, of the Hittite and the Amorite, of the Perizzite, the Jebusite, and the Girgashite-- to give it to his descendants. And Thou hast fulfilled Thy promise, for Thou art righteous.

h. Jer 11:5 "in order to confirm the oath which I swore to your forefathers, to give them a land flowing with milk and honey, as it is this day." Then I answered and said, "Amen, O LORD."


5. So it is simply apostate theology to say that God did not give Israel all the land promised to Abraham.


6. Premillennialists falsely teach that Israel never got the land they were promised and that God had to bring Israel again into the land in 1948 AD, in order to fulfill his promise. This is entirely false!

a. "God unconditionally promised Abraham's descendants a literal world-wide kingdom over which they would rule through their Messiah who would reign upon King David's throne...Even the animals and reptiles will lose their ferocity and no longer be carnivorous," (The Late Great Planet Earth, Hal Lindsay, p 165)

b. "The nature of the blessings are earthly, territorial, and national, and have nothing to do with a spiritual church to which none of these blessings has been promised ...Christ is not now on the throne of David bringing blessings to Israel as the prophets predicted, but He is rather on His Father's throne waiting for the coming earthly kingdom and interceding for His own who form the church," (The Millennial Kingdom: A Basic Text in Premillennial Theology, John F. Walvoord, p 205, 1983 AD)

c. 3. "The foundation of the state of Israel in recent years has been a part of the predicted regathering of scattered Israel back to their ancient land...The present partial possession of the land is a token. The complete possession awaits the coming of Israel's Redeemer" (The Millennial Kingdom: A Basic Text in Premillennial Theology, John F. Walvoord, p 185, 1983 AD)


7. Premillennialism is a theology of infidelity because it refuses to accept the plain teaching of the Bible.


8. All three promises God made to Abraham were fulfilled over 2000 years ago. Israel became a great nation in Egypt, possessed the land under Joshua and Solomon and through Jesus all the nations of the earth were blessed.

 

[meecha]

So I ignore half the OT and Pauls writtings in romans eleven just because of one parable?? wow!

rom 11 says gentiles are grafted into Israel. So gentiles become part of Israel. The eclessia is Israel ....yes the Church is Israel...it says so in the OT. The LXX calls Israel the church.

Again, The OT prophesied that even what the parable of the vinegrowers represented would happen. But it also prophesies that these same group of people will one day repent and be restored.

restored in Christ.....not in the land. Deut 28. God curses the disobedient.... that's why Jesus curses the fig tree. Jesus fulfils the OT.

 

[clarkthompson]

Paul is saying that we become spiritual jews and we get to inherit with them trough Jesus. Israel is still God's chosen people and they will have a revial and except Jesus during the end times just like Ruth we are brought into the coventant with Israel by Christ death on the cross think about this if someone does not except Christ in their life and dies in their sin and they hated believers in Christ they will have to answer for that since their sins are not covered by the blood this is the Abrahamic coventant which one thing it says those who curse you will be cursed those who bless you will be blessed it almost promises land and a great nation and a decendent that would change the world we are part of their covenant by Christ

 

[JaumeJ]

The Torah is the same for the Jew and the Sojourner who embraces the faith. The Sojourner describes all who believe Jesus, Yeshua. Anyone who has read the Word knows our home is not here, and our hearts do yearn to be Home.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Three promises to Abraham Fulfilled
Introduction:


1. Pre-tribulation Rapture and dispensationalists teach the false doctrine that God failed to fulfill the three promises he made to Abraham in fleshly Israel and the church (spiritual Israel).


2. All Premillennialists reject the plain Bible teaching that Israel possessed all the land God promises to Israel through Abraham.


3. For example, God said that if Israel got all the land promised, then they would have six cities of refuge.

a. "Therefore, I command you, saying, 'You shall set aside three cities for yourself.' "If the LORD your God enlarges your territory, just as He has sworn to your fathers, and gives you all the land which He promised to give your fathers— if you carefully observe all this commandment which I command you today, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in His ways always—then you shall add three more cities for yourself, besides these three. " (Deuteronomy 19:7-9)

b. Joshua 20:7-9 lists six cities of refuge - Kadesh, Shechem, Hebron, Bezer, Ramoth, and Golan.

c. Therefore God gave them all the land and premillennialism is utterly refuted!


4. Plain Bible passages say that Israel got all the land promised Abraham:

a. "So the LORD gave Israel all the land which He had sworn to give to their fathers, and they possessed it and lived in it. And the LORD gave them rest on every side, according to all that He had sworn to their fathers, and no one of all their enemies stood before them; the LORD gave all their enemies into their hand. Not one of the good promises which the LORD had made to the house of Israel failed; all came to pass. " (Joshua 21:43-45)

b. "Now behold, today I am going the way of all the earth, and you know in all your hearts and in all your souls that not one word of all the good words which the LORD your God spoke concerning you has failed; all have been fulfilled for you, not one of them has failed. "It shall come about that just as all the good words which the LORD your God spoke to you have come upon you, so the LORD will bring upon you all the threats, until He has destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God has given you. " (Joshua 23:14-15)

c. Josh 24:28 Then Joshua dismissed the people, each to his inheritance.

d. 2 Sam 8:3 David defeated Hadadezer...as he went to restore his rule at the River [Euphrates].

e. 1 Kings 4:21 Now Solomon ruled over all the kingdoms from the [Euphrates] River to the land of the Philistines and to the border of Egypt; they brought tribute and served Solomon

f. 2 Chr 9:26 And he was the ruler over all the kings from the Euphrates River even to the land of the Philistines, and as far as the border of Egypt.

g. Neh 9:8 And Thou didst find Abraham's heart faithful before Thee, and didst make a covenant with him to give him the land of the Canaanite, of the Hittite and the Amorite, of the Perizzite, the Jebusite, and the Girgashite-- to give it to his descendants. And Thou hast fulfilled Thy promise, for Thou art righteous.

h. Jer 11:5 "in order to confirm the oath which I swore to your forefathers, to give them a land flowing with milk and honey, as it is this day." Then I answered and said, "Amen, O LORD."


5. So it is simply apostate theology to say that God did not give Israel all the land promised to Abraham.


6. Premillennialists falsely teach that Israel never got the land they were promised and that God had to bring Israel again into the land in 1948 AD, in order to fulfill his promise. This is entirely false!

a. "God unconditionally promised Abraham's descendants a literal world-wide kingdom over which they would rule through their Messiah who would reign upon King David's throne...Even the animals and reptiles will lose their ferocity and no longer be carnivorous," (The Late Great Planet Earth, Hal Lindsay, p 165)

b. "The nature of the blessings are earthly, territorial, and national, and have nothing to do with a spiritual church to which none of these blessings has been promised ...Christ is not now on the throne of David bringing blessings to Israel as the prophets predicted, but He is rather on His Father's throne waiting for the coming earthly kingdom and interceding for His own who form the church," (The Millennial Kingdom: A Basic Text in Premillennial Theology, John F. Walvoord, p 205, 1983 AD)

c. 3. "The foundation of the state of Israel in recent years has been a part of the predicted regathering of scattered Israel back to their ancient land...The present partial possession of the land is a token. The complete possession awaits the coming of Israel's Redeemer" (The Millennial Kingdom: A Basic Text in Premillennial Theology, John F. Walvoord, p 185, 1983 AD)


7. Premillennialism is a theology of infidelity because it refuses to accept the plain teaching of the Bible.


8. All three promises God made to Abraham were fulfilled over 2000 years ago. Israel became a great nation in Egypt, possessed the land under Joshua and Solomon and through Jesus all the nations of the earth were blessed.

1. Who said I believe in pre-trib? You should stop assuming you know what I teach.
2. Gods promise to Abraham was an eternal covenant. His statutes and his promises endure forever. How can a promise, which God said would be forever, be fulfilled? If this is true, we should all fear. because the life God calls eternal he can take it away, for if God does not mean eternal when he says it, how can we trust God on anything he says?
3. OT Prophesies show Isreal will rebell. and be taken by gentile nations. First syria, then babylon, then rome. and then they say Isreal will be restored at the end. sorry I can not ignore these prophesies, or try to make them figurative in nature.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So I ignore half the OT and Pauls writtings in romans eleven just because of one parable?? wow!

rom 11 says gentiles are grafted into Israel. So gentiles become part of Israel. The eclessia is Israel ....yes the Church is Israel...it says so in the OT. The LXX calls Israel the church.

No you are mistaken, Rom 11 states gentiles are grafted into the vine (which is Christ) and Isreal was cut off. but when the times of the gentiles are fulfilled, Isreal will be gathered back in. You need to study more my friend.

Again, The OT prophesied that even what the parable of the vinegrowers represented would happen. But it also prophesies that these same group of people will one day repent and be restored.

restored in Christ.....not in the land. Deut 28. God curses the disobedient.... that's why Jesus curses the fig tree. Jesus fulfils the OT.

Again read romans 11. I placed it in another thread for you so will not repeat it here.

 

[edward99]

Israel is still God's chosen people and they will have a revial

Please prove this from scripture.
First show who is Israel.

Do both of the above without the Scofield Reference Bible.

 

[JaumeJ]

There is much Scripture on the subject of who are of the nation of Israel. There is mention of the two flocks being brought together by Yeshua, a Jew and our Good Shepherd, but one of my favorite scriptures demonstrating the relationship of members of the Body of Yeshua who are not blood Jews just what their relationship is to the Father, and I believe to all believing Jews is the following from Isaiah:
Isa 63:16 Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Please prove this from scripture.
First show who is Israel.

Do both of the above without the Scofield Reference Bible.

Try Romans 11 why do you all ignore it.

what about Ezekial 37?

What about revelations, who speaks of the woman (Isreal) and her offspring (Gentile church)

who needs a scofield bible??

 

[JaumeJ]

Try Romans 11 why do you all ignore it.

what about Ezekial 37?

What about revelations, who speaks of the woman (Isreal) and her offspring (Gentile church)

who needs a scofield bible??

Isa 63:16 Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting. It is quite the same about the Scripture quoted above and repasted here, why do you ignore it. Throughout the Word, beginning in the Torah, we are taught when we worship YHWH whether home born or a sojourner we are under the same rules, NO EXCEPTIONS, this applies to all of YHWH's Word, not simply what we compile in excerpts. From Genesis to Revelation inclusive. There is a lot in Scripture about who is a Jew, and it has barely been touched upon in this thread.............

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Isa 63:16 Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting. It is quite the same about the Scripture quoted above and repasted here, why do you ignore it. Throughout the Word, beginning in the Torah, we are taught when we worship YHWH whether home born or a sojourner we are under the same rules, NO EXCEPTIONS, this applies to all of YHWH's Word, not simply what we compile in excerpts. From Genesis to Revelation inclusive. There is a lot in Scripture about who is a Jew, and it has barely been touched upon in this thread.............

My friend you are talking about spiritual things here. Gods physical promises to the blood children of abraham through isaac and jacob had nothing to do with spiritual things.

another thing. why are we just talking about jew? A jew was the name given the the people of the southern kingdom, also known as Judah, and consisted of the tribes of benjamin and judah and levites who were with them.

what about the northern kingdom??

Ez 37: 19 say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will join them with it, with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand.”’ 20 And the sticks on which you write will be in your hand before their eyes.

Isreal is the northern kingdom, who were taken by the syrians.

Judah is the southern kingdom, of which I just explained.

21 “Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again. 23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. Then they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

When did this ever happen? Isreal has never returned. Judah returned after 70 years of captivity in babylon, but never lived in peace but were still under gentile authority. This is still future in nature, and does not have a thing to do with gentiles. we can not spiritualise this prophesy!


25 Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children’s children, forever;



The land given Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Where their fathers dwelt! This is on earth, not in heaven, for non of the fathers dwelt in heaven. This is not the new jerusalem, for no father dwelt there, and this is not spiritual jeruslaem. Because the fathers dwelt on physical land promised by God given to abraham and his blood descendants as an everlasting inheritance.



This goes right along with romans 11. Why do people want to fight it??

 

[meecha]

No you are mistaken, Rom 11 states gentiles are grafted into the vine (which is Christ) and Isreal was cut off. but when the times of the gentiles are fulfilled, Isreal will be gathered back in. You need to study more my friend.

no it doesn't ....it says they are grafted into an olive tree......you need to study more my friend but seriously EG...what is the olive tree?

What about revelations, who speaks of the woman (Isreal) and her offspring (Gentile church)

there is no such thing as the "gentile church"...another myth of the messianic movement

 

[edward99]

Daniel 9
25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary...

Luke 19
41When He approached Jerusalem, He saw the city and wept over it, 42saying, “If you had known in this day, even you, the things which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes. 43“For the days will come upon you when your enemies will throw up a barricade against you, and surround you and hem you in on every side, 44and they will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation.”

OT prophesies state both the northern and southern kingdoms will be restored. never happened.

Ezra 7:12-14
"Artaxerxes, king of kings, unto Ezra the priest, a scribe of the law of the God of heaven, perfect peace, and at such a time.
I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.
Forasmuch as thou art sent of the king, and of his seven counsellors, to enquire concerning Judah and Jerusalem, according to the law of thy God which is in thine hand;"

Ezra 8:35
"Also the children of those that had been carried away, which were come out of the captivity, offered burnt offerings unto the God of Israel, twelve bullocks for all Israel, ninety and six rams, seventy and seven lambs, twelve he goats for a sin offering: all this was a burnt offering unto the LORD."

Matthew 15:24-28
"But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour."

Matthew 10:5-7
"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Acts 3
Peter’s Second Sermon
11While he was clinging to Peter and John, all the people ran together to them at the so-called portico of Solomon, full of amazement. 12But when Peter saw this, he replied to the people, “Men of Israel, why are you amazed at this, or why do you gaze at us, as if by our own power or piety we had made him walk? 13“The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus, the one whom you delivered and disowned in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release Him. 14“But you disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, 15but put to death the Prince of life, the one whom God raised from the dead, a fact to which we are witnesses. 16“And on the basis of faith in His name, it is the name of Jesus which has strengthened this man whom you see and know; and the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect health in the presence of you all.

17“And now, brethren, I know that you acted in ignorance, just as your rulers did also. 18“But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19“Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; 20and that He may send Jesus, the Christ appointed for you, 21whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time. 22“Moses said, ‘THE LORD GOD WILL RAISE UP FOR YOU A PROPHET LIKE ME FROM YOUR BRETHREN; TO HIM YOU SHALL GIVE HEED to everything He says to you. 23‘And it will be that every soul that does not heed that prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ 24“And likewise, all the prophets who have spoken, from Samuel and his successors onward, also announced these days. 25 “It is you who are the sons of the prophets and of the covenant which God made with your fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘AND IN YOUR SEED ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH SHALL BE BLESSED.’ 26 “For you first, God raised up His Servant and sent Him to bless you by turning every one of you from your wicked ways.”

Acts 13:46
Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly and said, "It was necessary that the word of God be spoken to you first; since you repudiate it and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

no it doesn't ....it says they are grafted into an olive tree......you need to study more my friend but seriously EG...what is the olive tree?

what else but Christ. it is not isreal, they were the natural branches. your interpretation still fails.

there is no such thing as the "gentile church"...another myth of the messianic movement

then tell me, what is the time of the gentiles who were grafted in? is it a jewish church or a church of isreal? messianic movement? never heard of it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Daniel 9
25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary...

Luke 19
41When He approached Jerusalem, He saw the city and wept over it, 42saying, “If you had known in this day, even you, the things which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes. 43“For the days will come upon you when your enemies will throw up a barricade against you, and surround you and hem you in on every side, 44and they will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation.”

Ok what about what happens after those events in daniel 9? the wars and desolations, the covenant made with many for 1 week. and the abomination of desolation. Those events happen AFTER the temple is destroyed. funny how you ignored those facts.

Ezra 7:12-14
"Artaxerxes, king of kings, unto Ezra the priest, a scribe of the law of the God of heaven, perfect peace, and at such a time.
I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.
Forasmuch as thou art sent of the king, and of his seven counsellors, to enquire concerning Judah and Jerusalem, according to the law of thy God which is in thine hand;"

Ezra 8:35
"Also the children of those that had been carried away, which were come out of the captivity, offered burnt offerings unto the God of Israel, twelve bullocks for all Israel, ninety and six rams, seventy and seven lambs, twelve he goats for a sin offering: all this was a burnt offering unto the LORD."

Did they live in peace?

Did they live under their own king?

Did they have all the land that was theres?

Did they stop worshiping Idos?

Did they stop their transgressions against God?

of course we all know the answer is NO. thus you have a major problem!

21 “Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again. 23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. Then they shall be My people, and I will be their God.


Nice try, but you need to try again.