You ignore the context in which Saint Paul talked. Saint Paul answered to the question: are Jews no longer God's people (since Paul also thought that all jewish practices should be put aside)? He said "at the present time there is a remnant Israel", chosen by grace (you hear? By grace and not by other means or grounds such as race and religious exclusivism, but by grace alone!).
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there you go with the false accusing again.
By the way, why did you not show me where my gospel was wrong, I gave it to you a few posts back. What was wrong with my gospel>?
Here I will show you again.
God gave me eternal life based in his promise made to abraham (in you shall all the nations of the world be blessed) I am saved solely on his promise of eternal life to me based solely on his death on the cross.
Then again Abraham was saved this way, as was noah and adam, and Daniel and soloman, and moses and jeremiah. We have always been saved by faith through grace.
So where do I deny the gospel?
By the way, why did you not show me where my gospel was wrong, I gave it to you a few posts back. What was wrong with my gospel>?
Here I will show you again.
God gave me eternal life based in his promise made to abraham (in you shall all the nations of the world be blessed) I am saved solely on his promise of eternal life to me based solely on his death on the cross.
Then again Abraham was saved this way, as was noah and adam, and Daniel and soloman, and moses and jeremiah. We have always been saved by faith through grace.
So where do I deny the gospel?
You deny the gospel entirely! God fulfilled His promises towards Israel (and included the whole world also) by sending His Son to deliver all from sin and death. You deny that Christ is the deliverer of Israel, the Savior of the world, the waited Messiah.
For you and crossnote, Christ is not the real Messiah, but just a mere religious and allegorical personality that has nothing to do with Israel, nothing to do with the prophecies and promises from the O.T., nothing to do with history. In my gospel, Christ has EVERYTHING to do with Israel and the promises God made to her.
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lol.. I deny none of what you say I do. Nor does crossnote.
How can you read what I posted and make such a claim.
You just proved your true self. You have no desire to learn or see what people actually believe, your like the pharisees. They too believed the promise to Israel was salvic. Well if it was. All jews will be saved, as will all Gentiles who did the things necessary by the law of moses to enter into covenant between God and Israel.
You might believe in Christ, and even the fact he came to save you. But you do not believe in the God of the universe, who will ALWAYS keep his promise, to whoever he gave it to. Not all of Gods promises were salvic. Only one.
How can you read what I posted and make such a claim.
You just proved your true self. You have no desire to learn or see what people actually believe, your like the pharisees. They too believed the promise to Israel was salvic. Well if it was. All jews will be saved, as will all Gentiles who did the things necessary by the law of moses to enter into covenant between God and Israel.
You might believe in Christ, and even the fact he came to save you. But you do not believe in the God of the universe, who will ALWAYS keep his promise, to whoever he gave it to. Not all of Gods promises were salvic. Only one.
All promises of God were salvic. You are the pharisee because you fail to understand Jesus Christ. He was anything but a politic agitator. He fulfilled all God's promises. He is the Messiah that all have been waiting for. The pharisees were a ultra-nationalist sect and they expected salvation from the Roman government, not from sin and death. So, you are the pharisee here, not me.
Can't you understand that He came first for Israel but Israel rejected Him? Didn't Saint Paul said in Romans that the gospel was "for the Jews first and also, equally, for the Greek"?
God's chosen people are now all the believers (whether jew or gentile). God has been faithful towards Israel.
Edit: where does it say in the Bible that God sends two Saviors, one for the Church and another one for Israel?
God's chosen people are now all the believers (whether jew or gentile). God has been faithful towards Israel.
Edit: where does it say in the Bible that God sends two Saviors, one for the Church and another one for Israel?
You're about to be filed into the Troll Bin with your incessant character attacks.
Any opinions on this future military conquest?
Zechariah 14:1-5
1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Any opinions on this future military conquest?
Zechariah 14:1-5
1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Again...
Zechariah 14:1-5
1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Zechariah 14:1-5
1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
"All promises of God were salvic."
Now I get this hobgoblin
Is this what you follow?
Christianization of the Slavic World Yet to be Completed
https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/reverend-ted-pike-why-christian-zionism-is-a-cult/
OK ..... so give the forum biblical support for this mid-evil rant
Now I get this hobgoblin
Is this what you follow?
Christianization of the Slavic World Yet to be Completed
https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/reverend-ted-pike-why-christian-zionism-is-a-cult/
OK ..... so give the forum biblical support for this mid-evil rant
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They were? God promised that if Israel disobeyed him, He would destroy their high places and their enemy would take them as slaves.
What is salvic about that?
Do you even read scripture? Or are you to busy listening to some pastor, or priest, or pope who taught you all this crap?
Oh, I understand him fine, I understand the promise to Israel does not mean they will all be saved, because it was not a salvic promise. You the one who thinks it was. Like them
Yes they did, Because like you they ASSumed God promise to them was salvic in nature, when it was not. This they were already saved because of that promise, all they needed was to be saved by rome.
They did not need a suffering servant to save them from sin, Because they though they were by Gods promises to them as a nation.
What is salvic about that?
Do you even read scripture? Or are you to busy listening to some pastor, or priest, or pope who taught you all this crap?
Oh, I understand him fine, I understand the promise to Israel does not mean they will all be saved, because it was not a salvic promise. You the one who thinks it was. Like them
Yes they did, Because like you they ASSumed God promise to them was salvic in nature, when it was not. This they were already saved because of that promise, all they needed was to be saved by rome.
They did not need a suffering servant to save them from sin, Because they though they were by Gods promises to them as a nation.
This "slavic" stuff is wilder than a barn cat
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