GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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there are 2 point I like to remind you

1. Love fullfiling the law, that is why all the law is hang to love. Now we are in New law It is love, fullfil or replace the old one


2. Romans 13:8

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

I quote a verse that you give
for he that loveth another Hath fulfilled the law.

if you fulfilt the law, than you go to heaven. It is new covenant.

it doesn't say If you sabbath keeper fulfilled the law, If you love other is.

3. James 2:10
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
This verse prove SDA guilty of allsabbath law follow by death penalty, not SDA man Made law

Hello Jackson,

You did not remind me of anything. All you have done is repeat what I said in the post you quoted. Maybe you did not read it correctly? I think what you did not pick up from the post on LOVE is that you cannot separate LOVE from OBEDIENCE which is the FRUIT of FAITH. LOVE is the POWER to FOLLOW GOD as he changes our heart to FOLLOW him
 

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The Gospel of works

According to

Lovegodforever

(Basically all Christians spanning 2000 years are condemned according to loveforgod)



Post=2359:



Iti s SIN that will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom. If any knowinly practice man made traditions that lead to breaking of God's commandments then it is simple. SIN is transgression of God'sL AW. IF there is NO REPENTANCE and SEEKING God for forgiveness then the tree is cast down and thrown into the fire. As it was in the days of Noah and Soddom so shall it be at the coming of the son of man...



God'sWord is very clear that the Judgements of God are only received by breaking God's Law (any of God's 10 commandments, Isaiah 26:21,13:11, Psalms 37:38, Rom 2:5-6, 12, Prov 11:21, Heb 9:27, Jer 21:14,Isaiah 59:18, Matt 3:10, 12, 1Cor 6:9-10, 2Pet 3:7 and 1Thess 5:3).Even if we break one of God's 10 commandments we are guilty before God of breaking all of his Law (James 2:10-11).

God's Word also tells us that the "Beast" and his "Mark"is received as the Roman Catholic Church unites with the USA and the nations of the world to enforce a national Sunday law. All who believe and obey, this law will receive the "Mark of the Beast"and the Judgements of God (Rev 13 and 14) because they turn from God by disregarding his 7th Day Sabbath to follow man made traditions (Ex20:8-11, Mark 7:7). https://www.beastsmark.com/sealofgod website advertised by LGF



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Only the BELIEVERS and FOLLOWERS of GOD's Word are His people. Those who continue practicing KNOWN SIN will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)



Only the believers and followers of God's Word are his people. Those that practice SIN [worshipping on a Sunday - see above] will NOT enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.












 
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The Gospel of works

According to

Lovegodforever

(Basically all Christians spanning 2000 years are condemned according to loveforgod)



​Post=2359:

Iti s SIN that will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom. If any knowinly practice man made traditions that lead to breaking of God's commandments then it is simple. SIN is transgression of God'sL AW. IF there is NO REPENTANCE and SEEKING God for forgiveness then the tree is cast down and thrown into the fire. As it was in the days of Noah and Soddom so shall it be at the coming of the son of man...

God'sWord is very clear that the Judgements of God are only received by breaking God's Law (any of God's 10 commandments, Isaiah 26:21,13:11, Psalms 37:38, Rom 2:5-6, 12, Prov 11:21, Heb 9:27, Jer 21:14,Isaiah 59:18, Matt 3:10, 12, 1Cor 6:9-10, 2Pet 3:7 and 1Thess 5:3).Even if we break one of God's 10 commandments we are guilty before God of breaking all of his Law (James 2:10-11).

God's Word also tells us that the "Beast" and his "Mark"is received as the Roman Catholic Church unites with the USA and the nations of the world to enforce a national Sunday law. All who believe and obey, this law will receive the "Mark of the Beast"and the Judgements of God (Rev 13 and 14) because they turn from God by disregarding his 7th Day Sabbath to follow man made traditions (Ex20:8-11, Mark 7:7). https://www.beastsmark.com/sealofgod website advertised by LGF

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Only the BELIEVERS and FOLLOWERS of GOD's Word are His people. Those who continue practicing KNOWN SIN will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Only the believers and followers of God's Word are his people. Those that practice SIN [worshipping on a Sunday - see above] will NOT enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Hello Phil my friend how are you today?

I think you are getting yourself a bit mixed up. You give a post title called.....

"The Gospel of works According toLovegodforever (Basically all Christians spanning 2000 years are condemned according to loveforgod)"
Then you post a topic on SIN and how SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom and addsections highlighted into the post that I have not written.

[worshipping on a Sunday - see above]
Now taking bits and pieces out of a post putting your own title to it and adding sections into a post that was not written into the post to give it a different interpretation to what it is saying is a little dishonest don't you think?

The post is true however and is consistent to what is being shared here at CC. KNOWN SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom.


 
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Hello Phil my friend how are you today?

I think you are getting yourself a bit mixed up. You give a post title called.....



Then you post a topic on SIN and how SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom and addsections highlighted into the post that I have not written.

Now taking bits and pieces out of a post putting your own title to it and adding sections into a post that was not written into the post to give it a different interpretation to what it is saying is a little dishonest don't you think?

The post is true however and is consistent to what is being shared here at CC. KNOWN SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom.




I didn't write about sin...its all your work. You condemn all christians of all time by your works Sabbatarian gospel.

 
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I didn't write about sin...its all your work. You condemn all christians of all time by your works Sabbatarian gospel.
Hello Phil36,

It is not my work my friend it is God that says SIN will keep all who knowingly practice it out of God's Kingdom not me. It does not say that Christians of all time are lost at all. Only you say this. The scriptures are provided in the last post you sent so do not need to repeat them here.... or maybe I should? I am happy to share them if you do not know them?

What I also find amusing is that you take a small section out of larger post put your own heading and insertions into a post to make it say something that it is not. This is sad for you my friend.

Below is is also a section under the what you posted. I am just curious why you did not also include it?

Beastsmark.com

What do we need to do?

All of us have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God (Romans 3:23) and the wages of sin is Death but God has made a way of escape for us (Romans 6:23). For God so loved the world that he gave us his only boggott0n son, that whosoever should believe on him, including his death on the cross for our sins will not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16). This is a free gift from God to you to help you to be ready for His soon coming (Romans 5:15-18). We need to repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand (Matthew 4:17). God's judgements are coming! God's has promised us His seal and it is a free gift to all who will take it.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Act 17:30-31). To receive the seal of God we must 1. Repent and be baptized (turn away from all sin you know about) by seeking God everyday, (Rev 3:19, Matt 3:2, Matt 4:17, Mark 1:15, Luke 13:3-5, Acts 2:38), 2. Confess your sins to God in private to him and he will forgive your sins and will cleanse you from all wrong doing and save you from the coming judgements as you believe His Word (1John 1:9) 3. Seek God with all of your heart through His Word (Matt 6:33, Isa 55:6-7, Jer 29:13 ) 4. Believe His Word. God's Word is His power of creation. God wants to create us in His own image and save us from our sins as we have faith and believe the promises in His Word (2Pet 1:4, Rom 1:17, Rom 3:22-25, 5:1, 10:17, Heb 11, 1John 1:9, 2Pet 1:4).


Today if you will hear his voice harden not your heart for God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance (2Peter 3:9). Seek ye the Lord while he may be found call upon him while he is near; Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon (Isaiah 55:6-7).

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Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it


IN times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (
Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
 

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The Gospel of works

According to

Lovegodforever

(Basically all Christians spanning 2000 years are condemned according to loveforgod)



Post=2359:



Iti s SIN that will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom. If any knowinly practice man made traditions that lead to breaking of God's commandments then it is simple. SIN is transgression of God'sL AW. IF there is NO REPENTANCE and SEEKING God for forgiveness then the tree is cast down and thrown into the fire. As it was in the days of Noah and Soddom so shall it be at the coming of the son of man...



God'sWord is very clear that the Judgements of God are only received by breaking God's Law (any of God's 10 commandments, Isaiah 26:21,13:11, Psalms 37:38, Rom 2:5-6, 12, Prov 11:21, Heb 9:27, Jer 21:14,Isaiah 59:18, Matt 3:10, 12, 1Cor 6:9-10, 2Pet 3:7 and 1Thess 5:3).Even if we break one of God's 10 commandments we are guilty before God of breaking all of his Law (James 2:10-11).

God's Word also tells us that the "Beast" and his "Mark"is received as the Roman Catholic Church unites with the USA and the nations of the world to enforce a national Sunday law. All who believe and obey, this law will receive the "Mark of the Beast"and the Judgements of God (Rev 13 and 14) because they turn from God by disregarding his 7th Day Sabbath to follow man made traditions (Ex20:8-11, Mark 7:7). https://www.beastsmark.com/sealofgod website advertised by LGF



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Only the BELIEVERS and FOLLOWERS of GOD's Word are His people. Those who continue practicing KNOWN SIN will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)



Only the believers and followers of God's Word are his people. Those that practice SIN [worshipping on a Sunday - see above] will NOT enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
 
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The Gospel of works According to Lovegodforever
(Basically all Christians spanning 2000 years are condemned according to loveforgod


Iti s SIN that will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom. If any knowinly practice man made traditions that lead to breaking of God's commandments then it is simple. SIN is transgression of God'sL AW. IF there is NO REPENTANCE and SEEKING God for forgiveness then the tree is cast down and thrown into the fire. As it was in the days of Noah and Soddom so shall it be at the coming of the son of man...

God'sWord is very clear that the Judgements of God are only received by breaking God's Law (any of God's 10 commandments, Isaiah 26:21,13:11, Psalms 37:38, Rom 2:5-6, 12, Prov 11:21, Heb 9:27, Jer 21:14,Isaiah 59:18, Matt 3:10, 12, 1Cor 6:9-10, 2Pet 3:7 and 1Thess 5:3).Even if we break one of God's 10 commandments we are guilty before God of breaking all of his Law (James 2:10-11).

God's Word also tells us that the "Beast" and his "Mark"is received as the Roman Catholic Church unites with the USA and the nations of the world to enforce a national Sunday law. All who believe and obey, this law will receive the "Mark of the Beast"and the Judgements of God (Rev 13 and 14) because they turn from God by disregarding his 7th Day Sabbath to follow man made traditions (Ex20:8-11, Mark 7:7). https://www.beastsmark.com/sealofgod website advertised by LGF

Only the BELIEVERS and FOLLOWERS of GOD's Word are His people. Those who continue practicing KNOWN SIN will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Only the believers and followers of God's Word are his people. Those that practice SIN [worshipping on a Sunday - see above] will NOT enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Hello Phil my friend how are you today?

I think you are getting yourself a bit mixed up. You give a post title called.....

"The Gospel of works According toLovegodforever (Basically all Christians spanning 2000 years are condemned according to loveforgod)"
Then you post a topic on SIN and how SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom and addsections highlighted into the post that I have not written.

[worshipping on a Sunday - see above]
Now taking bits and pieces out of a post putting your own title to it and adding sections into a post that was not written into the post to give it a different interpretation to what it is saying is a little dishonest don't you think?


The post is true however and is consistent to what is being shared here at CC. KNOWN SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom.
Hello Phil36,

It is not my work my friend it is God that says SIN will keep all who knowingly practice it out of God's Kingdom not me. It does not say that Christians of all time are lost at all. Only you say this. The scriptures are provided in the last post you sent so do not need to repeat them here.... or maybe I should? I am happy to share them if you do not know them?

What I also find amusing is that you take a small section out of larger post put your own heading and insertions into a post to make it say something that it is not. This is sad for you my friend.

Below is is also a section under the what you posted. I am just curious why you did not also include it?

Beastsmark.com

What do we need to do?

All of us have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God (Romans 3:23) and the wages of sin is Death but God has made a way of escape for us (Romans 6:23). For God so loved the world that he gave us his only boggott0n son, that whosoever should believe on him, including his death on the cross for our sins will not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16). This is a free gift from God to you to help you to be ready for His soon coming (Romans 5:15-18). We need to repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand (Matthew 4:17). God's judgements are coming! God's has promised us His seal and it is a free gift to all who will take it.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Act 17:30-31). To receive the seal of God we must 1. Repent and be baptized (turn away from all sin you know about) by seeking God everyday, (Rev 3:19, Matt 3:2, Matt 4:17, Mark 1:15, Luke 13:3-5, Acts 2:38), 2. Confess your sins to God in private to him and he will forgive your sins and will cleanse you from all wrong doing and save you from the coming judgements as you believe His Word (1John 1:9) 3. Seek God with all of your heart through His Word (Matt 6:33, Isa 55:6-7, Jer 29:13 ) 4. Believe His Word. God's Word is His power of creation. God wants to create us in His own image and save us from our sins as we have faith and believe the promises in His Word (2Pet 1:4, Rom 1:17, Rom 3:22-25, 5:1, 10:17, Heb 11, 1John 1:9, 2Pet 1:4).


Today if you will hear his voice harden not your heart for God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance (2Peter 3:9). Seek ye the Lord while he may be found call upon him while he is near; Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon (Isaiah 55:6-7).

.................

Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it


IN times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (
Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
So Phil, are you stuck for words and cannot respond to the posts I have sent you?

Just re-posting the same post over and over does not magically make it come true when you have been caught out doing something that is not honest.

If you are at peace with what you believe and do then fine you are free to move on. If your not I am happy to talk with you further. Otherwise let's agree to disagree and remain friends. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed and each one of us are required to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.

Those who are in the Lord will have peace and LOVE through FAITH and are free to FOLLOW him who LOVES all. Those that do not FOLLOW him do not KNOW him and should seek him while he may be found and call upon him while he is near...

Tommorrow may be too late..
 

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Hello Jackson,

You did not remind me of anything. All you have done is repeat what I said in the post you quoted. Maybe you did not read it correctly? I think what you did not pick up from the post on LOVE is that you cannot separate LOVE from OBEDIENCE which is the FRUIT of FAITH. LOVE is the POWER to FOLLOW GOD as he changes our heart to FOLLOW him
the fruit of abide is love

a branch can not bear fruit of itself. The vine is. New law is love, It fulfilled all law, for he that love other had fulfilled the law.

It is new law not sabbath law, sabbath law is old covenant with israel
 
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the fruit of abide is love

a branch can not bear fruit of itself. The vine is. New law is love, It fulfilled all law, for he that love other had fulfilled the law.

It is new law not sabbath law, sabbath law is old covenant with israel
Hello brother Jackson,

Yes only by abiding in Christ by FAITH can one bear the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE that WORKS by LOVE to FOLLOW God. IF you have NO FRUIT (OBEDIENCE to God's LAW) you are still in your SINS and your tree will be chopped down and cast into the fire.

SIN is the transgression or breaking of God's LAW the 10 commandments (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Romans 3:20).

If we break one of God's Commandments we stand guilty before God of breaking ALL his law and need to seek him in REPENTANCE AND Forgiveness so we can be free to FOLLOW him in LOVE through FAITH in HIS WORD.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

God's Israel are those who BELIEVE God's WORD and FOLLOW it. (Gal 3:16; 28-29; Romans 2:28-29; 9:6; 10:11-13; Col 3:11)

IN times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Hope this helps
 
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So Phil, are you stuck for words and cannot respond to the posts I have sent you?

Just re-posting the same post over and over does not magically make it come true when you have been caught out doing something that is not honest.

If you are at peace with what you believe and do then fine you are free to move on. If your not I am happy to talk with you further. Otherwise let's agree to disagree and remain friends. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed and each one of us are required to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.

Those who are in the Lord will have peace and LOVE through FAITH and are free to FOLLOW him who LOVES all. Those that do not FOLLOW him do not KNOW him and should seek him while he may be found and call upon him while he is near...

Tommorrow may be too late..
tomorrow for me is sunday. i'll, , God willing , will be going to church for Christmas eve service , to celebrate the birth of Christ. oh, what a wicked sinner I am! I should repent of this and start celebrating Sabbath, that is what saves!

many of us know Him. you know the Israeli Sabbath .
 
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tomorrow for me is sunday. i'll, , God willing , will be going to church for Christmas eve service , to celebrate the birth of Christ. oh, what a wicked sinner I am! I should repent of this and start celebrating Sabbath, that is what saves! many of us know Him. you know the Israeli Sabbath .
Hello gb9,

We are all free to worship God on any day of the week and in fact should worship God everyday. That is not the problem.

Breaking God's commandments are the problem. Unrepentant SIN will keep all who knowingly practice it out of God's Kingdom and why God's Word tells us to REPENT for the Kingdom of Heaven is at Hand.

If we continue in SIN when God has given us a knowledge of the truth then we are rejecting the gift of God's dear son. God is not willing that any should perish but wants all to be saved but he never forces anyone to follow him.

All are free to choose for themselves what they do in this life, but all must answer for the things they do on the great day of God's judgement.

He wants us to come to him just as we are full of SIN so that he can save us and free us to LOVE HIM so that we can FOLLOW him in LOVE because God is LOVE.
 
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well, I guess you will have to explain why you are saying that non-Jewish people should keep a certain day in a certain way, but God never commanded Christ followers to keep the Sabbath . that is man- made ( or ellen white ) teaching.

and, we have the truth- believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. no Sabbath mentioned. or required.
 
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well, I guess you will have to explain why you are saying that non-Jewish people should keep a certain day in a certain way, but God never commanded Christ followers to keep the Sabbath . that is man- made ( or ellen white ) teaching. and, we have the truth- believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. no Sabbath mentioned. or required.
Well that is not true at all my friend. Only God's Word is true and we must LIVE by EVERY WORD of it (Romans 3:4; Matt 4:4).

Happy to help out with the scriptures..........

God's Israel are those who BELIEVE God's WORD and FOLLOW it. (Gal 3:16; 28-29; Romans 2:28-29; 9:6; 10:11-13; Col 3:11)

God's LAW (10 commandments) which includes the 4th commandment (Exodus 20:8-11) is the standard of the Old and NEW Testaments and the Judgment to come and the knowledge of SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS and is given to all mankind (Romans 3:19).

The Law of God (10 commandments) is the work of God ( Exodus 32:16 ) whatsoever God does is forever nothing can be added to it or taken away (Ecclesiastes 3:14).

God's Law is perfect converting the soul (Psalms 19:7). It is t he very foundation of the Old and New Covenants and the Judgement to come (Exodus 20:1:17, Hebrews 8:10-12; Exodus 36:26-27; Jeremiah 31:33-34; Hebrews 10:26-28; Romans 1:29-32;2:-9;2 Corinthians 5:10; Hebrews 9:27; Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, James 2:10-12, 1 John 3:4, Acts 17:31).

God's Law was spoken by God himself to His people ( Exodus 20:1-22 ). God’s 10 commandments are the spoken word of God ( Exodus 20:1-22 ). God’s Word does not pass away ( Matthew 25:35 ).

Gods Law is still in force today ( Psalms 111:7-8, Revelations 12:17, 14:12, 22:14, 1 John 3:5-8, 1 John 2:3-4; James 2:8-12 et c.).

God’s Law reveals sin to us and the penalty of sin so we can see ourselves as we truly are sinners in need of a Saviour ( Romans 6:23; Romans 3:20; 1 John 3:4 ).

It is the great standard of the judgement ( Hebrews 10:26-28; Romans 1:29-32; Romans 2:2-13; 2 Corinthians 5 :10; Hebrews 9:27; Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, James 2:10-12, 1 John 3:4, Acts 17:31 ).

God's Law is our teacher revealing sin and brings us to Christ at the foot of the cross that we might be saved by faith by Him who loves us and washed us in His own blood as we have faith (Galatians 3:24; Revelations 1:5).

God writes His Law in our hearts so that we become like him and we follow hi m because we love him (Hebrews 8:10-12) LOVE is the fulfilling (doing) of God's Law (Romans 13:10).

This is why Jesus says to those that love him If you love me keep my commandments (John 14:15).

Hope this helps....
 
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well, I guess you will have to explain why you are saying that non-Jewish people should keep a certain day in a certain way, but God never commanded Christ followers to keep the Sabbath . that is man- made ( or ellen white ) teaching.

and, we have the truth- believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. no Sabbath mentioned. or required.
I am not commenting on anything else in this post except the "jewish day/sabbath" thing, as I am not a SDA etc.

There is no such thing as "Jewish Sabbah" it is the day YHWH set apart and it is for all worshippers of YHWH who choose to.

Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said יהוה, “Guard right-ruling, and do righteousness, for near is My deliverance to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who becomes strong in it, guarding the Sabbath lest he profane it, and guarding his hand from doing any evil. And let not the son of the gentile who has joined himself to יהוה speak, saying, ‘יהוה has certainly separated me from His people,’ nor let the eunuch say, ‘Look I am a dry tree.’ For thus said יהוה, “To the eunuchs who guard My Sabbaths, and have chosen what pleases Me, and are holding onto My covenant: to them I shall give in My house and within My walls a place and a name better than that of sons and daughters – I give them an everlasting name that is not cut off. Also the sons of the gentile who join themselves to יהוה, to serve Him, and to love the Name of יהוה, to be His servants, all who guard the Sabbath, and not profane it, and are holding onto My covenant, them I shall bring to My set-apart mountain, and let them rejoice in My house of prayer. Their ascending offerings and their sacrifices are accepted on My altar, for My house is called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”



Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though YHWH's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are YHWH's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."


Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is YHWH our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."

It is written, if you disagree I think yoiu need to argue with your Bible.
 

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Hello brother Jackson,

Yes only by abiding in Christ by FAITH can one bear the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE that WORKS by LOVE to FOLLOW God. IF you have NO FRUIT (OBEDIENCE to God's LAW) you are still in your SINS and your tree will be chopped down and cast into the fire.

SIN is the transgression or breaking of God's LAW the 10 commandments (James 2:11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Romans 3:20).

If we break one of God's Commandments we stand guilty before God of breaking ALL his law and need to seek him in REPENTANCE AND Forgiveness so we can be free to FOLLOW him in LOVE through FAITH in HIS WORD.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

God's Israel are those who BELIEVE God's WORD and FOLLOW it. (Gal 3:16; 28-29; Romans 2:28-29; 9:6; 10:11-13; Col 3:11)

IN times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Hope this helps
obey new commandment mean love

or If you want obey old commandment, then obey full sabbath law, include death penalty
 
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obey new commandment mean love

or If you want obey old commandment, then obey full sabbath law, include death penalty
Hello Jackson,

If you break any of God's commandments you comit SIN because SIN is breaking God's LAW (1 John 3:4; James 2:11; Romans 3:20; 7:7).

If you continue in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN, then YES IS IT DEATH PENALTY because you have not accepted the GIFT of God's dear son and are still in your SINS.

because it is written....

Romans 6
23, For the WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH
<breaking God's LAW>; but the GIFT OF GOD is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Hebrews 10
26,
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

..................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

IN times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Hope this helps..
 
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Jackson123

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Hello Jackson,

If you break any of God's commandments you comit SIN because SIN is breaking God's LAW (1 John 3:4; James 2:11; Romans 3:20; 7:7).

If you continue in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN, then YES IS IT DEATH PENALTY because you have not accepted the GIFT of God's dear son and are still in your SINS.

because it is written....

Romans 6
23, For the WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH
<breaking God's LAW>; but the GIFT OF GOD is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Hebrews 10
26,
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

..................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

IN times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Hope this helps..
If you do not want break any law than apply death penalty for sabbath violator

death penalty for sabbath violator is also a law.
 
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If you do not want break any law than apply death penalty for sabbath violator
death penalty for sabbath violator is also a law.
Hello Brother Jackson,

Yes the Death penalty is applied for breaking ANY of God's commandments not just one (James 2:8-12).

If we break ANY of God's 10 commandments we have commited SIN and if you do not REPENT and accept the gift of God's dear son the wages of SIN is death (1 John 3:4; Hebrews 10:26-27; Romand 6:23).

..................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

IN times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Hope this helps..
 

Jackson123

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Hello Brother Jackson,

Yes the Death penalty is applied for breaking ANY of God's commandments not just one (James 2:8-12).

If we break ANY of God's 10 commandments we have commited SIN and if you do not REPENT and accept the gift of God's dear son the wages of SIN is death (1 John 3:4; Hebrews 10:26-27; Romand 6:23).

..................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

IN times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Hope this helps..
That is different, base oN the OT, death penalty for sabbath is done by human authority. Do not change God law brother.
 
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That is different, base oN the OT, death penalty for sabbath is done by human authority. Do not change God law brother.
Hello Brother Jackson,

We are in the New Covenant now, why are you talking about Old Covenant?

All scriptures I gave you from the post you quoted are from the New Covenant so I am not sure what you are talking about.

You may need to explain yourself more.