GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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posthuman said:
listen, then

anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
(Romans 6:7)

sin shall not be your master, because you are not under Law, but under grace.
(Romans 6:14)

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Paul still died. And would still be dead if He didn’t follow the instructions of Jesus. Or have you removed Him out of your religion as you did His Instruction
 
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Studyman said:
Paul still died. And would still be dead if He didn’t follow the instructions of Jesus. Or have you removed Him out of your religion as you did His Instruction
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changing your definition of death mid-stride, aincha?

btw, thanks for the baseless accusations, curses and insults. i thought maybe something was wrong for a bit there, when you actually posted a couple times without verbally murdering me.


 
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Re: A changing of Commandment I Give You said Satan

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from the 1[SUP]st [/SUP]century and onward, Christians met together on the first of the week, and called it "the 8[SUP]th[/SUP] day"
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Nothing in the Word of GOD to support this. However it was prophesied.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
 
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the Law says of those who commit wickedness:
take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate
and stone that person to death.
(Deuteronomy 17:5)​

is this not so?
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God says His Words are Spiritual. Paul said the law came and He died. Who gave Him the Law? Was it not the congregation of the Lord?

Didnt the harlot die when the Word came same as Paul? Have you any understanding at all?
 
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God says His Words are Spiritual. Paul said the law came and He died. Who gave Him the Law? Was it not the congregation of the Lord?

Didnt the harlot die when the Word came same as Paul? Have you any understanding at all?
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He sleepeth but Let the dead bury the dead....
 
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Studyman said:
So Moses wrote God's instructions for satan's children.

Well that does explain why you preach against Him so hard. That clears up a lot. Thanks for sharing that with me.
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Not the instructions of my God, but rather the instructions of the Jewish god of war.

Then, when the LORD your God lets you capture the city, kill every man in it. You may, however, take for yourselves the women, the children, the livestock, and everything else in the city. You may use everything that belongs to your enemies. The LORD has given it to you. That is how you are to deal with those cities that are far away from the land you will settle in. "But when you capture cities in the land that the LORD your God is giving you, kill everyone.
(Deu 20:13-16)
 
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Re: A New Commandment I Give You

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they are about to stone believers who meet together on the 8[SUP]th[/SUP] day in order to worship and learn of Him.

what do you think He makes of this?
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My God accepts worship every day of the week. My God is not a hypocrite. My God tells me not to kill in the 6th commandment and would never tell me to kill someone by stoning them to death. If he did, he would be condemning me to hell, and that is not my God who died in our place so that we shall have eternal life. My God is a God of love and peace.
 
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Studyman said:
God says His Words are Spiritual. Paul said the law came and He died. Who gave Him the Law? Was it not the congregation of the Lord?

Didnt the harlot die when the Word came same as Paul? Have you any understanding at all?
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does the Law command that adulterers be physically put to death, yes or no?
 
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I believe for SDA, rest mean physical rest,or rituals rest no matter your mind is terrible and not rest.

God is Spirit to worship God must in spirit and truth

[h=1]John 4:24 New King James Version (NKJV)[/h]24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”


 
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Yep only Jesus is rest giver. He promise to give a rest to who ever come to Him
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He told a certain man to pick up a bundle and carry it on one sabbath day. by doing so, He gave him rest. He is Lord over the sabbath, not under it :)

 
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Matthew 11:28 King James Version (KJV)

28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.



Sabbath is rest

so the verse will be

come unto me, all ye that labour and heavy laden, and I will give you
sabbathf


​so sabbath is a gift
, and those who come to Jesus is sabbath observer.
 
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He told a certain man to pick up a bundle and carry it on one sabbath day. by doing so, He gave him rest. He is Lord over the sabbath, not under it :)
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yep, He is sabbath or rest creator. Who ever come to Him will accept or have real rest or real sabbath in spirit every day
 
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The fruits of the Spirit are not invisible.
Keeping the Sabbath is a spiritual experience but it can't be kept without obedience to the law. The physical is an outward sign or expression of what is going on in the heart.
To follow the command means to rest on that day like God tells us, (resting in Jesus is part of it). Resting in Jesus can be done any day but keeping the 7th day holy can only be done between those hours God commands.
 
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yep, He is sabbath or rest creator. Who ever come to Him will accept or have real rest or real sabbath in spirit every day
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amen

Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses,
just as the builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself.
(Hebrews 3:3)
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He is preparing a place for us
 
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TMS said:
The fruits of the Spirit are not invisible.
Keeping the Sabbath is a spiritual experience but it can't be kept without obedience to the law. The physical is an outward sign or expression of what is going on in the heart.
To follow the command means to rest on that day like God tells us, (resting in Jesus is part of it). Resting in Jesus can be done any day but keeping the 7th day holy can only be done between those hours God commands.
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should i make tzitzit for all my garments?
((must i on threat of hell?))

should i add a blue thread?

if i add a crimson thread, will it turn white :rolleyes:
 
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Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

It doesn't say keep it spiritually or keep it every day but to keep the Sabbath day holy which is clearly set out at creation.

It should be a spiritual experience and we should have the right motives for keeping it but that is between you and God.
 
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posthuman said:

should i make tzitzit for all my garments?
((must i on threat of hell?))

should i add a blue thread?

if i add a crimson thread, will it turn white :rolleyes:
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Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
 
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