GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

[Dan_473]

Well from my perspective you do Dan. Maybe you don't know it, Jesus warned about that sort of thing over and over. But you seem to agree with some of Christ's Word's and reject others. for instance;

34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

You seem to hold these Word's of Christ as a summary of Christ's teaching.

30 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

But with these Word's from the same God, in the Same Book, from the same chapter, you reject it seems, and you choose instead to follow the religious traditions of men.

I say these things not as a judgment or insult, but as a brother warning and admonishing another brother. All man's religions have some aspect of God's Word. satan used parts of God's Word to deceive Eve. The Pharisees were "children of satan" and they still used "parts" of God's Word to deceive men for centuries.

Since Jesus specifically warned about the "MANY" who would deceive "MANY" in His Name, should we not examine the teaching of the religions of the world and compare to the Word's of Jesus?

And what if we find religious doctrines which cause those who follow them to "Transgress the Commandments of God by their religious traditions? Which should we discard? God's word, or the religious tradition.

"You seem to hold these Word's of Christ as a summary of Christ's teaching."

not sure about a summary of Christ's teaching, but definitely a summary of the law

Galatians 5: 14. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

indeed, more than a summary!

 

[Dan_473]

The Pharisees also quoted scripture that they claimed "proved" what they preached. The serpent also used God's Word to "prove" to Eve what it was saying.

Shouldn't a person at least be cognizant of this truth, and be willing to "seek" the truth?

rom. 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

"Shouldn't a person at least be cognizant of this truth, and be willing to "seek" the truth?"

absolutely!

Proverbs 1: 6. To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

if the scriptures contain dark sayings, then in some cases it will be impossible to prove something from the scriptures

 

[Dan_473]

Yes, there are "many" who come in His Name to deceive. But there is only one God, you might try listening to all His Words.

Ecc. 12: 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

"you might try listening to*all His Words."*


when you say that, are you implying that i don't?

i quote this
"In the beginning

(to long for a single post, the rest can be read here
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/10900/10900-h/10900-h.htm )

 

[PS]

None of which is being addressed in this thread.

It doesn't matter, the whole doctrine is heretical.

 

[Studyman]

"You seem to hold these Word's of Christ as a summary of Christ's teaching."

not sure about a summary of Christ's teaching, but definitely a summary of the law

Galatians 5: 14. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

indeed, more than a summary!

Once again you ignore the post.

 

[Studyman]

"Shouldn't a person at least be cognizant of this truth, and be willing to "seek" the truth?"

absolutely!

Proverbs 1: 6. To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

if the scriptures contain dark sayings, then in some cases it will be impossible to prove something from the scriptures

Yes, it is impossible to justify religious traditions of man which transgress the Commandments of God with scripture. The rejection of His Sabbath is just one example of a tradition of man which can not be proven with scriptures. There are many more.

 

[Dan_473]

Once again you ignore the post.

i didn't ignore your post, i quoted you and responded

 

[Dan_473]

Yes, it is impossible to justify religious traditions of man which transgress the Commandments of God with scripture. The rejection of His Sabbath is just one example of a tradition of man which can not be proven with scriptures. There are many more.

Yes, it is impossible to justify religious traditions of man which transgress the Commandments of God with scripture.

it is also impossible to make someone believe that their interpretation is not from the holy spirit if they are convinced that it is.

 

[LoveGodForever]

It doesn't matter, the whole doctrine is heretical.

Now PS, you BELIEVE that God's 4th Commandment spoken and written with the FINGER of GOd is a pagen tradition.

How can something God makes and commands all his people to keep holy be a pagan tradition?

That does not make much sense now does it?

I would sugget that if you are calling God pagan then that is a heretical doctrine.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Dan_473]

LGF,

I've answered two of your questions so far

do you agree with my answers?

 

[LoveGodForever]

LGF,
I've answered two of your questions so far do you agree with my answers?

good!

the first question in post 7127 is
"How many commandments in the 10 Commandments 613 or 10?"

i say 10.

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posted from my phone, blessings!

Dan you have only answered one of them I think unless I missed one somewhere?

To the one above... Correct Dan,

Do you know what the OLD Covenant is and what laws make up the OLD Covenant and why God commanded these laws to be separated in the ARK of the Covenant? No need for a long answer if your not able to.

 

[Dan_473]

Dan you have only answered one of them I think unless I missed one somewhere?

To the one above... Correct Dan,

Do you know what the OLD Covenant is and what laws make up the OLD Covenant and why God commanded these laws to be separated in the ARK of the Covenant? No need for a long answer if your not able to.

I believe the second is

"How many Commandments in God's LAW that God spoke in person and wrote with his own finger on two tables of stone?"

God spoke loads of laws, maybe 7 or 8 hundred
the bible mentions 10 he carved on stone

 

[LoveGodForever]

I believe the second is

Well that one is the same question I think Dan and does not include any of the others but it is ok... Did you want to start with the next one in the last post I sent you?

Do you know what the OLD Covenant is and what laws make up the OLD Covenant and why God commanded these laws to be separated in the ARK of the Covenant?

No need for a long answer if your not able to.

 

[Dan_473]

Well that one is the same question I think Dan and does not include any of the others but it is ok... Did you want to start with the next one in the last post I sent you?

Do you know what the OLD Covenant is and what laws make up the OLD Covenant and why God commanded these laws to be separated in the ARK of the Covenant?

No need for a long answer if your not able to.

before we move on, do you agree with the answer i gave?

 

[posthuman]

Lest anyone beguile you with clever sounding argument...



Deuteronomy 9:9
When I was gone up into the mount to receive the tables of stone, [even] the tables of the covenant which the LORD made with you, then I abode in the mount forty days and forty nights, I neither did eat bread nor drink water

 

[LoveGodForever]

before we move on, do you agree with the answer i gave?

Dan have a look at post # 7251. Maybe you missed it?

 

[LoveGodForever]

Lest anyone beguile you with clever sounding argument...

Deuteronomy 9:9
When I was gone up into the mount to receive the tables of stone, [even] the tables of the covenant which the LORD made with you, then I abode in the mount forty days and forty nights, I neither did eat bread nor drink water

Hi PH, maybe you can join our conversation. Yes your scripture you posted is correct God's 10 Commandments are part of the OLD Covenant.

In your view is this all that is included in the OLD Covenant?

 

[Dan_473]

Dan have a look at post # 7251. Maybe you missed it?

i saw 7251, but i believe you said you agreed with one answer.
but i had written two

but just as well, because after searching exodus i don't think it states how many laws were written on stone tables

very likely quite a few

though maybe there's other verses that spell it out

 

[LoveGodForever]

i saw 7251, but i believe you said you agreed with one answer.
but i had written two

but just as well, because after searching exodus i don't think it states how many laws were written on stone tables

very likely quite a few

though maybe there's other verses that spell it out

Dan your two answers were from the same question earlier.

If you cannot find the scripture that states how many commandments were written by God on the two tables of stone I am happy to help you.
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Exo 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

Deu 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

Deu 10:4 And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the LORD spoke unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the LORD gave them unto me.

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Should we continue now?

No hurry when you are ready. Happy to move through this slowly.

 

[Jackson123]

Know you did not.

Have you ever seen the movie Jungle Book?

i never seen that movie, but I did prove brother LGF change col 2:14 dear