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K
I guess you did not read all those scriptures, because none of them say these people all ready have eternal life.
It says they must fight the fight, keep the faith, make your election sure, and so on. Which go with many others where Paul says only if you continue in the faith do you receive eternal life. Jude's whole epistle is about eternal life salvation, and gives the Exodus as an example and says those who were once saved by God because they later turned their back on Him He destroyed them. Exodus 32:33 that goes along with this says God blotted them out of His book of Life.
The question here is why in this model prayer that Jesus gave His disciples are they to pray that God's will be done if God's will will be done regardless of what one prays or if one even prays at all?
The idea here in praying for God's will be done refers to God's preceptive will in His desire/wish all men to come to repentance and be saved.
Albert Barnes, a Calvinists says (my emp) "Thy will be done - The will of God is, that people should obey his law, and be holy. The word “will,” here, has reference to his law, and to what would be “acceptable” to him. To pray, then, that his will may be done, on earth as in heaven, is to pray that his “law,” his “revealed will,” may be obeyed and loved. His law is perfectly obeyed in heaven, and his true children most ardently desire and pray that it may also be obeyed on the earth."
The idea here in praying for God's will be done refers to God's preceptive will in His desire/wish all men to come to repentance and be saved.
Albert Barnes, a Calvinists says (my emp) "Thy will be done - The will of God is, that people should obey his law, and be holy. The word “will,” here, has reference to his law, and to what would be “acceptable” to him. To pray, then, that his will may be done, on earth as in heaven, is to pray that his “law,” his “revealed will,” may be obeyed and loved. His law is perfectly obeyed in heaven, and his true children most ardently desire and pray that it may also be obeyed on the earth."
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Take a look at our planet. Mankind has ruined it in so many ways since Creation. Yes, no human can bend the will of GOD...and who would want to try? Who has a better idea than GOD Himself, the Creator? GOD intended to commune with His own, that is until sin entered the story. But..in the END..GOD will commune with HIS own, full circle.
K
Well you answered your own question in the question.
You said a carnal man, and if the person is carnal then they have not been born again in the first place.
The scriptures I gave is not speaking of the carnal man, they are talking to believers in Christ about obtaining salvation.
The carnal man sets their mind only on the things of the flesh, and not the Spirit. Paul shows this clearly from his transition in Romans 7 to Romans 8, as Paul calls himself carnal in 7 but then in 8 shows that he now walks in the Spirit and is no longer carnal as that leads to death.