Harry is evil

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watchmen said:
No, not at all. They do watch T.V. but i am very careful of what they take in visually.

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22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
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You've never read a book to your children that would be considered a fairy tale? Do you allow them to participate in Halloween? Do you have a Christmas tree? Do they believe in the easter bunny? Do you watch television shows or movies or read books that have any type of fantasy and/or exhibit anything that is a sin?
 
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chelsers said:
You've never read a book to your children that would be considered a fairy tale? Do you allow them to participate in Halloween? Do you have a Christmas tree? Do they believe in the easter bunny? Do you watch television shows or movies or read books that have any type of fantasy and/or exhibit anything that is a sin?
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No to all your questions.

Except for fantasy, Depending on your meaning of fantasy. Like Spider man or wonder dog or such things as that? Do you call that fantasy? and do you compare that to Harry Potter.

But No, I do not read them ''fairy tales'' like snow white of any other ''magical stuff'', and no they do not do Halloween, or Christmas tress or Easter bunny ect... However there is a distinction between Christmas tress and Harry Potter. Do I believe it is sinful to have a Christmas tree no not necessarily (although I would not have one in my house) but celebrating Christmas and exposing your children to witchcraft are two very different things.

P.S. Halloween of any kind, Santa, and the Easter Bunny are strictly forbidden in my home.
 
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chelsers

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watchmen said:
No to all your questions.

Except for fantasy, Depending on your meaning of fantasy. Like Spider man or wonder dog or such things as that?

But No, I do not read them ''fairy tales'' like snow white of any other ''magical stuff, and no they do not do Halloween, or Christmas tress or Easter bunny ect... However there is a destinction between Christmas tress and Harry Potter. Do I believe it is sinful to have a Christmas tree no not necessarily (although I would not have one in my house) but celebrating Christmas andf exposing your children to witchcraft are two very different things.

P.S. Halloween of any kind, Santa, and the easter Bunny are struictly forbidden in my home.
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Okay, I respect that then and I understand where you're coming from. I wasn't trying to corner your or put you on the spot, I know it may seem like that. I really was curious and I appreciate your response.
 
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Okay, I respect that then and I understand where you're coming from. I wasn't trying to corner your or put you on the spot, I know it may seem like that. I really was curious and I appreciate your response.
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No problem, I am open to any and all question, nor am I easily offended. :D
 
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I think it's fine as long you remember it's just a book/movie, and also as long as you don't get try to get into real magic becasue of it.
 
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dothackzero said:
I think it's fine as long you remember it's just a book/movie, and also as long as you don't get try to get into real magic becasue of it.
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"Real magic".
I have never seen "real magic" or anything in the way of witchcraft, or any plausable account of it. What I do know about the persecution of witchcraft is the spanish inquisition, which is one of the most abominable acts in man's history, most likely without a single "witch" as a casualty.
 
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dothackzero said:
I think it's fine as long you remember it's just a book/movie, and also as long as you don't get try to get into real magic becasue of it.
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Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Scripture say to have no ''absolutely NO'' fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness. It does not say if the unfruitful works of darkness are in book or movie form it is ok to felolowship with it, as long as you remember it is just a book or movie.
 
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Harry Potter is straight out of hell. As a Christian I hate all tipe of evil things and I dont allow satan to lie to me. Children read wrong books like Harry Potter and they dont know what the Bible said about witchcraft the way that I did.
I would like to warn all people to be careful for Harry Potter because is is daingerous
 
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I would like to tell some of the facts why Harry Potter is evil. When Harry was joung his parents Lilly and James Potter died in the fight against the evil Lord Voldemort. He went to stay with his uncle and his tante and he called them real muggles. This is why I as a Christian believe that Harry Potter is wrong and why parents must keep their children away from Harry Potter. All tipe of witchcraft is wrong in God's eyes and as Christians we must never allow our children to read any books with witchcraft and we must listen if God said something is wrong. Stay away from Harry Potter
 
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Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Scripture say to have no ''absolutely NO'' fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness. It does not say if the unfruitful works of darkness are in book or movie form it is ok to felolowship with it, as long as you remember it is just a book or movie.
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Yes, but what you;re defining as " unfruitful works of darkness" seems to be taking a leap. We're talking about fiction, not a "how to" guide.
 
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Yes, but what you;re defining as " unfruitful works of darkness" seems to be taking a leap. We're talking about fiction, not a "how to" guide.
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What we are talking about is witchcraft, and one of satan's tolls to get kids interested in it. Yes I call that unfruitful works of darkness.
 
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watchmen said:
What we are talking about is witchcraft, and one of satan's tolls to get kids interested in it. Yes I call that unfruitful works of darkness.
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So, all fiction that includes magic is witchcraft no matter what the context?
 
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So, all fiction that includes magic is witchcraft no matter what the context?
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That's what it sounds likes he's saying to me. So then in my case 95% of the anime,manga, video games, and TV shows I watch/read/play are evil.
 
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That's what it sounds likes he's saying to me. So then in my case 95% of the anime,manga, video games, and TV shows I watch/read/play are evil.
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Oh, and my planting God's seeds though the video games I'm gonna make and as far as I can tell God's on my side with this plan too are gonna be evil since the story lines will influenced by that 95% of evil. :p
 
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ok well im not 'obsessed' with harry potter but i take care of kids alot and end up seeing it by osmosis, and i donttt think its evil to watch.

yes, the bible says we should not be involved in witchcraft. but watching the movies alone is not involving yourself in witchcraft.
the bible also says we should not be involved in murder, or gossip. does this mean watching movies with murder and gossip in them counts as participating in those too? because if it does id be willing to bet the vast majority of us are now murderers for indulging in a scary movie- or even law and order episode- once in awhile.

since harry potter is for mere entertainment, saying it is is evil is making a much larger claim if you wish to be consistent in your principles: Any movie that portrays any type of sin whatsoever is evil.

on the other hand, if witchcraft is a particular stumbling block for you, by all means don't watch it. but in general, it is fantasy. thats all.

but im sorry you feel that way =( hope my response didn't offend you or make you think im evil.


You show alot of contratiction, knowing what is evil and oking it.
King Saul died for consulting a witch, Israel was punised by God for entertaing witchcraft.
God doesnt care what form it is in, its not entertainment to Him. If you watch what is evil to God you partisapate in the act.
Ill let you expalin your actions to God, ok.
As for me and my house, we serve the Lord. Harry Potter and a few other things are banned from my house.
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So, all fiction that includes magic is witchcraft no matter what the context?
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First of all yes. Secondly Harry Potter does not just contain ''magic'' it contains witchcraft. So your question is invalid.
 
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That's what it sounds likes he's saying to me. So then in my case 95% of the anime,manga, video games, and TV shows I watch/read/play are evil.
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You are probably right it probably is evil. However Harry Potter actually contains witchcraft. So it would be evil even if you own special worldly pleasures are not.
 
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ariannaaa said:
ok well im not 'obsessed' with harry potter but i take care of kids alot and end up seeing it by osmosis, and i donttt think its evil to watch.

yes, the bible says we should not be involved in witchcraft. but watching the movies alone is not involving yourself in witchcraft.
the bible also says we should not be involved in murder, or gossip. does this mean watching movies with murder and gossip in them counts as participating in those too? because if it does id be willing to bet the vast majority of us are now murderers for indulging in a scary movie- or even law and order episode- once in awhile.

since harry potter is for mere entertainment, saying it is is evil is making a much larger claim if you wish to be consistent in your principles: Any movie that portrays any type of sin whatsoever is evil.

on the other hand, if witchcraft is a particular stumbling block for you, by all means don't watch it. but in general, it is fantasy. thats all.

but im sorry you feel that way =( hope my response didn't offend you or make you think im evil.


You show alot of contratiction, knowing what is evil and oking it.
King Saul died for consulting a witch, Israel was punised by God for entertaing witchcraft.
God doesnt care what form it is in, its not entertainment to Him. If you watch what is evil to God you partisapate in the act.
Ill let you expalin your actions to God, ok.
As for me and my house, we serve the Lord. Harry Potter and a few other things are banned from my house.
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YES, you just won this thread. This is what i was trying to get out before, but couldn't word it properly.

"yes, the bible says we should not be involved in witchcraft. but watching the movies alone is not involving yourself in witchcraft.
the bible also says we should not be involved in murder, or gossip. does this mean watching movies with murder and gossip in them counts as participating in those too? because if it does id be willing to bet the vast majority of us are now murderers for indulging in a scary movie- or even law and order episode- once in awhile."

i would like this answered.
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I use something I call the "context vs. content" method when reading or watching movies... the mere appearance of evil in a story (be it movie or book or whatever) is not the problem. After all, the Bible has witches, demons, violence, and a variety of other stuff. But in context, they're portrayed as evil.

Some people say the Bible is the exception. I think the Bible should be the rule. I just say this 'cause I remember when a high school class was trying to tell our teacher that we shouldn't read Macbeth because it had witches in it "So does the Bible" I said. "But the witches in Macbeth are portrayed as evil, just as they are in the Bible... so what's our problem?" As long as the evil is portrayed as evil, I think there shouldn't be a problem.

Now, as Harry Potter does portray wizards in a good light, I can't watch it according to my convictions (I used to really enjoy them, but I didn't feel right about it... no worries, I'm not gonna condemn anyone who reads the books or watches the movies. Just not gonna do it myself)
 
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Random note: Also, fantasy books resonate with me because they often mirror really cool truths of Christianity (haha, yeah, there are some pretty junky ones out there too... I'm careful what I read).
 
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