Have your biblical beliefs changed over the years?

[UnderGrace]

Well, I know you are not shy, actually it is your avatar which gave me this mental picture of you sitting at your computer, staring so intently at your screen with rapt anticipation counting the seconds, waiting and waiting, for all the votes to come in....

...you know like when you guys have a presidential election, and then at the end of the night, you JoeFizz with diet Coke in hand, would declare a winner, and then there would all these boos and cheers from the peanut gallery.

Thanks for the laugh this place needs it.

Now Under Grace are insinuating that I posted about "no posts or poll votes" to get people's attention?(hahaha hahaha hahaha and I get what you meant,there "Were" posts,my posts lol)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I used to believe woman should not speak up in church,.

I used to believe men should not have long hair (it was a sin, and probably meant they were gay)

I used to believe we had to show up to church in our finest suit and tie, And if we did not we disrespected God

I used to believe women should wear dresses to church, (long) and failure to do so disrespected God

I used to believe the key to spiritual growth was the word. So I sfocused on the word when I got out on my own, (which is why I changed most of my beliefs) yet neglected the other 3 means of growth Which is most likely why I had alot of head knowledge, but did not have much to show in the way of being christlike. And ended up becoming a prodigal son when my wife left me for another man

I used to believe the main sanctuary and pulpit area were a most holy place. And when you entered that area you had to make sure you were spiritually clean and act a certain way or you would be punished by God.

yeah yeah, i had some odd beliefs.

 

[joefizz]

Some are embarrasing, lol the paper I wrote in High school. I am shocked I even believed that, but at the time, that is what our pastor taught.

Well alot can be embarrassing when concerning biblical beliefs I use to believe alot differently,I used to think that every Veggie tales video portraying biblical events was "completely accurate" now after "reading the whole bible myself" I realize they were only "somewhat accurate".

 

[Nehemiah6]

...yeah yeah, i had some odd beliefs.

That's one way to put it. The other way would be to say that you have now adopted some odd beliefs.

 

[joefizz]

I voted...
"Yes entirely" because my first beliefs were rather "vague" at best and "certainly didn't lead me to salvation in any form".

 

[eternally-gratefull]

As you can see, I was very legalistic, and had a legalistic background, I believed in eternal security, but in a lagalistic way, If you stuggled with sexual sin, Drinking, woiuld go to bars, or clubbing, got a divorce (which is why I had such a hard time with it and left) or any other major sins, you probably were not saved, in fact when I would go on visitation wiht my dad and another deacon, they would tell people they have to repent and change their life first, then God would be ready to talk to them, and maybe save them.

That is why I am at war with legalism, I sawe it destroy lies, it almost destroyed my life. And is so anti - God that it is worth fighting for people who are entangled or imprisoned in it, and help people exposed to it not fall for its trap.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

That's one way to put it. The other way would be to say that you have now adopted some odd beliefs.

They could but they would be wrong. I stopped blindly following men along time ago. All of my beliefs are founded on what I have studied, I am always open to change, I think I have proved that, but no one has yet changed my view on any of those things, and many have tried. ( I study all views to begin with, so unless you bring somethign new that I have not heard of yet. I most likely know what your going to say before you say it or have heard your line of reasoning)

 

[joefizz]

Well, I know you are not shy, actually it is your avatar which gave me this mental picture of you sitting at your computer, staring so intently at your screen with rapt anticipation counting the seconds, waiting and waiting, for all the votes to come in....

...you know like when you guys have a presidential election, and then at the end of the night, you JoeFizz with diet Coke in hand, would declare a winner, and then there would all these boos and cheers from the peanut gallery.

Thanks for the laugh this place needs it.

You mean staring like this?...

 

[UnderGrace]

Exactly!

You mean staring like this?...

 

[Laish]

I answered yes entirely.
I was a atheist when I first picked up a Bible nearly halfway through I was saved .
I honestly had no idea what was in the Bible before I picked one up to read .
I thought it was a rule book of some sort.
I was just blown away with what I first read it . It was like nothing I could imagine.
My views do change as I read and study it each time . No huge sweeping pendulum changes lately.
Just subtle refinements and tweaks here and there with the exception of eschatology.( still studying that one a lot )
Blessings
Bill

 

[jsr1221]

I included "no not at all" because some people stick to "one" belief ideally but I do believe we "change" our beliefs overtime and of course get them "challenged".

Of course we do at some point. No one is a Christian from the moment of birth.

 

[joefizz]

Of course we do at some point. No one is a Christian from the moment of birth.

Yeah although I remember esther's phrase "I was born a Baptist and I'll die a Baptist" har Glory,lol and people still say stuff like that.

 

[joefizz]

Yeah although I remember esther's phrase "I was born a Baptist and I'll die a Baptist" har Glory,lol and people still say stuff like that.

whoops meant "And I will remain a Baptist".

 

[Nehemiah6]

... so unless you bring somethign new that I have not heard of yet...

I don't have to bring "something new" but you have to go back to something "old".

Here is what you said: "I used to believe woman should not speak up in church.."

Here is what the apostle Paul said by Divine inspiration: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law...

So your supposedly improved understanding of Bible truth has led you to REJECT Bible truth. If that is not odd, we don't know what is.

 

[joefizz]

Well how interesting,only the selection "not by much" is still zero.

 

[Laish]

Yeah although I remember esther's phrase "I was born a Baptist and I'll die a Baptist" har Glory,lol and people still say stuff like that.

That reminds me what about John the Baptist? He knew something in the womb. Elisabeth did say that John did leap in her word . So he did know something before birth .
Blessings
Bill

 

[Nehemiah6]

That reminds me what about John the Baptist? He knew something in the womb. Elisabeth did say that John did leap in her word . So he did know something before birth .
Blessings
Bill

And he did not change his beliefs either.

 

[oldethennew]

of course, particularly 'after a REAL Conversion', hence, The Holy Spirit stepping-in'...

 

[jsr1221]

That reminds me what about John the Baptist? He knew something in the womb. Elisabeth did say that John did leap in her word . So he did know something before birth .
Blessings
Bill

If we knew God before birth, would there be a need to ask Him for forgiveness of our sins and accept Him in our hearts? We'd already hav done that prior to birth, had we not?

 

[joefizz]

I don't have to bring "something new" but you have to go back to something "old".

Here is what you said: "I used to believe woman should not speak up in church.."

Here is what the apostle Paul said by Divine inspiration: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saiththe law...

So your supposedly improved understanding of Bible truth has led you to REJECT Bible truth. If that is not odd, we don't know what is.

Actually you have that half true,see back in the old days women and men were not in the same seats so for a woman to ask a question of their husbands they would have to "shout" across to them interrupting a service,quite different now a days in fact in my family church my Aunt and others are permitted to shout words of "jubilation" during a service such as "bless him lord" thereby "not interrupting a service".