Hell

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TheAristocat

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Oct 4, 2011
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I'm not being close minded when I take offense to the worst sort of cruelty imaginable. God created hell, god put us all in a situation in which we were condemned to it, god made the criteria upon which souls would be judged, I cannot see how he is not responsible for every soul in hell.

Also, if he wanted to give us free will, then why is everyone who chooses the option that is not him going to suffer eternal torture? That is not free will, that is a conform or die ultimatum! And beyond that, why did the punishment for not choosing him have to be so cruel? Couldn't there be a choice to have god or not, but the consequences for not choosing god wouldn't have to be torture? That wouldn't make us robots, that would give us more free will than if we did have eternal torture.

@ Djness...
You're basically explaining that god's standard is perfection, and is far greater than we could ever hope to achieve. But we didn't ask to be born, we couldn't help that we were born inferior to god's standard. He's holding what are essentially children (us) up to the standard of an adult (him) I believe it's immoral for him to sentence a punishment of such incredible cruelty for us not being perfect, for us not meeting a literally perfect standard.

EDIT: also, way past my bedtime, can't respond again till tomorrow. Have at it though.
If you think about it we don't deserve paradise either, but that was what we were first offered. Now we're offered a choice between eternal destruction or eternal bliss. Hell in my interpretation of the Bible involves a number of circumstances such as 1.) the spiritually dead are tormented before the day of judgment, 2.) after the day of judgment Satan, his angels and the false prophets are tormented for eternity and the rest of the unsaved are simply burned up and cease to exist. But that's my specific interpretation of a "hell" concept.

Hope you see this, but you probably won't since you've been banned. Your profile says that you're not a Christian, in which case you would simply cease to exist after the judgment of hell fire. And since you're already familiar with this concept of death you wouldn't need to worry about suffering too much more than the early Christian martyrs did for their faith at Nero's parties. And I imagine Nero won't have to suffer much more than them either. In which case that last example would show God's mercy since justice would dictate Nero suffer a number of deaths that he caused Christians to endure.

At any rate, God calls the shots. Anyone who purposely deceived and misled people such as false prophets and Satan realize what they're doing and are going to get what's coming to them.