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Yeraza_Bats

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Yes, it is a different teaching; in theQur'an he is a holy prophet - that doesn't make it "satanic".

Can you show me otherwise?
From the quran-

Quran 5:75 "Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers who passed away before him"


Quran 4:171 "O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs."

From the Bible-

1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is he who denies that Jesus is the Christ. It is the antichrist that denies the Father and the Son.

Its absolutely satanic. Praising Him as a mere prophet is not praising Him at all. He said Himself-

John 5:21-23 21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.
 

graceNpeace

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Yes, it is a different teaching; in theQur'an he is a holy prophet - that doesn't make it "satanic".

Can you show me otherwise?
Misrepresenting Jesus Christ is a major issue.
The Moslems who refer to Jesus as a prophet are damning Him with faint praise....
And, yes it is a Satanic ploy.
 

J7

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Misrepresenting Jesus Christ is a major issue.
The Moslems who refer to Jesus as a prophet are damning Him with faint praise....
And, yes it is a Satanic ploy.
You have no proof of that. Unless you have regular chats with Satan.

Jesus tells us to preach the Gospel to all men. You can only start making those kind of spiritual judgements about Islam if you are perfect.


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[FONT=&quot]You can make other kinds of judgements. But to flat out say that Islam is a Satanic belief system you need to know what you are talking about, otherwise you run the risk of violating Jesus' Commandment to take the gospel to all men and make disciples of all men.

There are lots of things in politics that flat out stink, but my advice is don't let them make you take your eye off the ball.


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Yes, it is a different teaching; in the Qur'an he is a holy prophet - that doesn't make it "satanic".

Can you show me otherwise?
Er, ah... yeah!

Their satanic book claims God did NOT have a son, and if He did His Son did NOT die on the cross.

If you cannot understand that this is satanic... well, I'll be nice cause I was about to seriously hurt your feelings!

If you are a Christian, you have zero excuse for not recognizing that anyone who claims God didn't have a Son Who died on the cross is satanic!

It's satanic cause this is a lie of the devil.... it's satan's point of view and he believes his own lies.




It means that they have an innate sense of right and wrong.
Yes, as they are on their way to hell for rejecting Jesus Christ and following false gods instead.

Jesus told us the world would love it's own so just cause someone cares for kids and old folks does not mean they are of God.

satan loves to play the humanitarian card to touch people's feelings so he can take advantage of that emotional open door and stick for false teaching in people's minds. They don't call him the pide piper for nothing... he's playin yo tunes!

You must still be a little bitty baby if you are a Christian at all to not understand satan's tricks.
 

graceNpeace

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You have no proof of that. Unless you have regular chats with Satan.

Jesus tells us to preach the Gospel to all men. You can only start making those kind of spiritual judgements about Islam if you are perfect.


Hebrews 5 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, (teleios - perfect) even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

You can make other kinds of judgements. But to flat out say that Islam is a Satanic belief system you need to know what you are talking about, otherwise you run the risk of violating Jesus' Commandment to take the gospel to all men and make disciples of all men.

There are lots of things in politics that flat out stink, but my advice is don't let them make you take your eye off the ball.


Seriously!!

Just read your Bible!
Anything that seeks to pervert the person and work of Jesus Christ is Satanic - it is that simple!
Islam is just one lot in a long queue...
 

J7

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Wrong. Paul has made it clear that you need to be perfect to fully discern between good and evil. Did you catch that? Probably not.

He also makes it clear we should keep our faith simple:

[h=1]2 Corinthians 11:3[/h][FONT=&quot]3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

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[h=1]2 Corinthians 1[/h][FONT=&quot]12 For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward.

There is a reason for this.
We are here to preach God.

People always find a reason to exclude certain groups. Be careful with that one.

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to flat out say that Islam is a satanic belief system you need to know what you are talking about
Hello! It is a satanic belief system and yes we are supposed to witness to them... inform them that they are following satan and to repent and accept the Jesus that IS God's Son Who DID go to the cross for the sins of mankind.

This business of telling people they can continue in their false doctrine following their false gods and still be saved is SATANIC... cause this is another trick of the devil.

'Ol slewfoot likes to trick people in to following false gods but since they do a few good works they think they are good people that God will accept in to His Kingdom and He will not cause they did not get born again and walk with the Lord.
 
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People always find a reason to exclude certain groups.
Ah yes, ye olde doctrine of inclusion that we all serve the same god... the brotherhood of man.

You've been deceived dude man YO... you should cast the devil out and start again fresh with the Lord, you know go back to square one and get born again and start again.
 

miknik5

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Not by power or by might sayeth THE LORD


But by HIS SPIRIT

certain things will be left to THE LORD

Anyone who goes above HIM?

goes above HIM


2 John 1
 
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certain things will be left to THE LORD
Yes, and God published a BOOK that explains His ways of being and doing right... He will judge based on what He has already said as it's impossible for Him to lie and the gifts and callings of God are without repentance
 

J7

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Seriously!!

Just read your Bible!
Anything that seeks to pervert the person and work of Jesus Christ is Satanic - it is that simple!
Islam is just one lot in a long queue...
lol. I have sat in the presence of many Moslems and not felt the sense of animosity that you get from sitting with a Satanist, who will simply slit your throat if they get the chance.

The two situations are not comparable at all to me.

But GnP, clearly viewing Islam as Satanic spurs you to minister to them, so I admire that. Who am I to say you are not right?
 

miknik5

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Yes, and God published a BOOK that explains His ways of being and doing right... He will judge based on what He has already said as it's impossible for Him to lie and the gifts and callings of God are without repentance
Yes HE already said do not uproot, do not avenge, do not live by the sword

HE alone is the LORD of THE HARVEST

And both the wheat and the tares will grow together until THE HARVEST

And HE didn't give any man the right to have a hand in the harvest
 

graceNpeace

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lol. I have sat in the presence of many Moslems and not felt the sense of animosity that you get from sitting with a Satanist, who will simply slit your throat if they get the chance.

The two situations are not comparable at all to me.

But GnP, clearly viewing Islam as Satanic spurs you to minister to them, so I admire that. Who am I to say you are not right?
Satanic deception comes in many forms...
Satanism is only one of many, many, many...
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Wrong. Paul has made it clear that you need to be perfect to fully discern between good and evil. Did you catch that? Probably not.

He also makes it clear we should keep our faith simple:

2 Corinthians 11:3

3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

2 Corinthians 1

12 For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward.

There is a reason for this.
We are here to preach God.

People always find a reason to exclude certain groups. Be careful with that one.

What are you going on about? The Bible makes it clear that denying the Son is denying God. Jesus even says it Himself. You cant quote from the Bible to argue this point when this point is made clearly in the Bible.

They are not following Jesus. Its clear and simple. Christ is the Son of God who died for our sins. Islam says He was just another messenger, over and over again. It denies Christ, therefore it is antichrist. Theres no getting past it. Vague passages from the Bible do not disprove the verses that say this clearly.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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lol. I have sat in the presence of many Moslems and not felt the sense of animosity that you get from sitting with a Satanist, who will simply slit your throat if they get the chance.

The two situations are not comparable at all to me.

But GnP, clearly viewing Islam as Satanic spurs you to minister to them, so I admire that. Who am I to say you are not right?

Well its great that youve met some friendly, down to earth Muslims there, but that does not prove that Islam guides people to Jesus. None of this is relevant.
 

miknik5

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Well its great that youve met some friendly, down to earth Muslims there, but that does not prove that Islam guides people to Jesus. None of this is relevant.
Islam doesn't guide people to the TRITH of THE ONE GOSPEL

WITNESSES of CHRIST are supposed to do that
 

graceNpeace

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lol. I have sat in the presence of many Moslems and not felt the sense of animosity that you get from sitting with a Satanist, who will simply slit your throat if they get the chance.

The two situations are not comparable at all to me.

But GnP, clearly viewing Islam as Satanic spurs you to minister to them, so I admire that. Who am I to say you are not right?
This has nothing to do with individual Moslems.
It has everything to do with what they believe.