Saying that God is one is not saying there is only one God. That is the difference I am pointing out between the doctrine of the trinity. that God exists as one entity in three eternal persons, and that of monotheism, that there is only one true God. Of course as Christians we believe there is only one God. That is monotheism, not trinitarianism.
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Heresy means opinion given or personal choice. The word sect or denomination comes from the word heresy.
The Kingdom of God is not of this world so we must walk by faith, the unseen eternal. In that way we all have our own private interpretation (personal commentary) called heresies.
Damnable, judge-able heresies simply deny the grace of Christ that buys the believer.
Saul before His conversion when he became Paul persecuted the church in respect to (sola scriptura) all things written in the law and the prophets seeing they followed after another Jesus another gospel in respect to the fathers that did deny the grace of Christ by the oral traditions of certain fathers. When they approached Paul, who was formerly under the law of the fathers, killing Christians. They called him a ring leader of those who did believe all things written in the law and the prophets(sola scriptura) Paul now in another sect (heresy) called the Nazarene's.
Act 24:5 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect (heresy) of the Nazarenes:
They judged Paul according to a law of the fathers (oral traditions of men as commandments of men And not commandments from our father in heaven.
Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law.Act 24:6.......Not according to the law of God, as it is written as all things written in the law and the prophets)
They judged Paul by a law of the fathers who Christ called a brood of vipers .But they could not prove it unless they shoot themselves in the foot .
Commanding his accusers to come unto thee: by examining of whom thyself mayest take knowledge of all these things, whereof we accuse him.And the Jews also assented, saying that these things were so. And they neither found me in the temple disputing with any man,neither raising up the people, neither in the synagogues, nor in the city: Act 24:12
Paul informs them he did not receive what he was preaching from any man .
Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which “they call heresy”, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing "all things which are written in the law and in the prophets": Act 24:14
When before that as Saul he worshiped the fathers as if they were worshiping our father in heaven, therefore denying the grace of God who bought them with a price.The death of the son of man ..
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even “denying the Lord that bought them”, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2Peter 2:1 (King James)
2 And there did come also false prophets among the people, as also among you there shall be false teachers, who shall bring in besides “destructive sects” and the Master who bought them “denying,” bringing to themselves quick destruction, 2Peter 2:1 (YLT)
We seek His approval according to His commitment to rightly divide His word. .
1Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you
The Kingdom of God is not of this world so we must walk by faith, the unseen eternal. In that way we all have our own private interpretation (personal commentary) called heresies.
Damnable, judge-able heresies simply deny the grace of Christ that buys the believer.
Saul before His conversion when he became Paul persecuted the church in respect to (sola scriptura) all things written in the law and the prophets seeing they followed after another Jesus another gospel in respect to the fathers that did deny the grace of Christ by the oral traditions of certain fathers. When they approached Paul, who was formerly under the law of the fathers, killing Christians. They called him a ring leader of those who did believe all things written in the law and the prophets(sola scriptura) Paul now in another sect (heresy) called the Nazarene's.
Act 24:5 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect (heresy) of the Nazarenes:
They judged Paul according to a law of the fathers (oral traditions of men as commandments of men And not commandments from our father in heaven.
Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law.Act 24:6.......Not according to the law of God, as it is written as all things written in the law and the prophets)
They judged Paul by a law of the fathers who Christ called a brood of vipers .But they could not prove it unless they shoot themselves in the foot .
Commanding his accusers to come unto thee: by examining of whom thyself mayest take knowledge of all these things, whereof we accuse him.And the Jews also assented, saying that these things were so. And they neither found me in the temple disputing with any man,neither raising up the people, neither in the synagogues, nor in the city: Act 24:12
Paul informs them he did not receive what he was preaching from any man .
Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which “they call heresy”, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing "all things which are written in the law and in the prophets": Act 24:14
When before that as Saul he worshiped the fathers as if they were worshiping our father in heaven, therefore denying the grace of God who bought them with a price.The death of the son of man ..
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even “denying the Lord that bought them”, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2Peter 2:1 (King James)
2 And there did come also false prophets among the people, as also among you there shall be false teachers, who shall bring in besides “destructive sects” and the Master who bought them “denying,” bringing to themselves quick destruction, 2Peter 2:1 (YLT)
We seek His approval according to His commitment to rightly divide His word. .
1Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you
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Sometimes the differences are subtle and feel like splitting hairs, and yet clearly, to believe there is only one true God is not the same as believing that God exists as three eternal persons, as the doctrine of the trinity puts forth.
Sometimes the differences are subtle and feel like splitting hairs, and yet clearly, to believe there is only one true God is not the same as believing that God exists as three eternal persons, as the doctrine of the trinity puts forth.
And then there are the postmodern heresies, which come from the tradition of redefining words, concepts and theology to make them seem new and exciting, instead of lies and falsehoods.
The definition of postmodernism is:
"M[FONT=ff-more-web-pro, serif]any postmodernists have been led into a profound skepticism toward modernity's assumptions about knowledge, truth, and reason. These postmoderns question the extent to which modernity's attempts to make truth claims is valid. They've discovered that at the base of almost every truth claim is a story, a story that privileges certain groups and marginalizes others. Jean Lyotard, the French champion of many postmodern themes, said that postmodernism requires a suspicion of the overarching stories (often called "metanarratives") that support our claims of truth. Any claim to know truth or any attempt to commend truth to others is likely to be just a power play, they argue, an attempt to impose one's own metanarrative in the guise of an absolute truth."[/FONT]
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2000/november13/8.76.html
In other words, there is no real truth, and of course, for Christians, that means you can have an opinion, a definition of a word that has no Biblical reality, and any claim to the former definitions for those words, and even theology is just a "dead tradition."
Postmodern Christianity is rampant in this forum, and it seeks to change the very meaning of Christianity. These people love to point out that definitions that stood for 2000 years, but don't "feel" good, can be changed by either slightly rewriting history, or the lexicons. With no reference to history, or scholarship; these people are deceivers, and they buy into the lie that there is no objective truth!
This is the absolute opposite of Christianity, which has THE truth in Jesus Christ! And all those doctrines resulting from the Fall, our sin, and Jesus dying on the cross for our sins, and he was resurrected, are changing to mean, well, whatever you feel like you want it to mean. So, sin is cleansed forever, and it is ok to keep sinning, because Jesus already died for that sin.
Or repentance doesn't mean turning from sin, it just means "changing your mind" which in Greek translates each word within the compound word, but not the meaning of the new word! Words intensify or radically change in compound words, and metanoia is one of those words. In other words, moving from sin, to following Christ which is the real definition of Biblical repentance, becomes changing your mind, like changing whether you want to go to the farmer's market or the grocery store! What trivial garbage! And yet, those exact words were used by someone in this forum last summer to describe the postmodern version of repentance.
Postmodern Christianity says, "How can anything be a heresy, if there is no objective truth?" Or "As postmodern, we can reject everything in the past with regards to theology, and say it is just a tradition, because we have literally changed the meanings of the words in the Bible."
This sets up a dichotomy of "tradition" versus "fresh Word." Anything traditional is bad, anything new and "flaky" is GREAT! It is a revelation from God, not that stuffy old Bible! That is just a dead old tradition! Forgetting always that making up new things, the way you want them to be, is also the postmodern position, and it is heretical! And of course, nothing better than pulling a verse out of context, and forgetting all the qualifying surrounding verses.
To some in this forum, having no objective truth that means that you can take any false, or heretical teacher, changing Biblical Christianity and the words, the phrases, clauses, sentences, paragraphs, chapters and books, and use them to support whatever you want. How convenient!
This is NOT about people who disagree on the order of events in salvation, such as Calvinists and Arminians. Those are both acknowledged doctrines, professed by millions of people. The points of disagreement about timing, about the extent of God's reach to save, and so-called "free will" are well within the discussions of biblical Christianity.
"In postmodern culture, it’s impossible to separate what people believe from who they are, because the act of believing something makes it true (for those who believe). Therefore, rejecting the content of faith means rejecting the person who constructed that truth. Truth now means personal preference and personal empowerment. It would be no more appropriate to question the validity of a person’s belief than to critique his or her choice from a dinner menu. Striving together to discover truth through debate and spirited discussion is definitely out."
http://www.equip.org/article/the-postmodern-challenge/
Perhaps this is why the fights in this forum get so vicious. When taking away the "truth" that someone believes, or wants to believe, by arguing from the bible and conservative scholarship over the past 2 millennia, means that you are rejecting that person! This is when heretical beliefs become personal and people get hurt in the discussions we have been having. Which is really regrettable and sad! Because these people have merely created their own truth, and there is always hope for them to come back to objective truth, rather than the subjective truth of the postmodern heresy!
It's too bad so many have been seduced by the postmodern lie, that whatever truth you want to believe, is true, and any truth that is Biblical, or in any way from the 2000 years of Biblical history, is just another opinion, but one stuck in tradition, without these postmodernists realizing that all they have done is fallen in with the world, and created their own tradition, albeit a heretical one.
"But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction." 2 Peter 2:1
This is Peter warning about cults and groups in his day, but a warning which should resound to our day and age, with false preachers on the internet, preaching "another gospel" and supporters flooding various of these deceivers by flooding the forum with the truth that there is no truth, for truth is not Jesus, but whatever you want it to be.
Or this warning from Paul:
"For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough." 2 Cor. 11:4
The definition of postmodernism is:
"M[FONT=ff-more-web-pro, serif]any postmodernists have been led into a profound skepticism toward modernity's assumptions about knowledge, truth, and reason. These postmoderns question the extent to which modernity's attempts to make truth claims is valid. They've discovered that at the base of almost every truth claim is a story, a story that privileges certain groups and marginalizes others. Jean Lyotard, the French champion of many postmodern themes, said that postmodernism requires a suspicion of the overarching stories (often called "metanarratives") that support our claims of truth. Any claim to know truth or any attempt to commend truth to others is likely to be just a power play, they argue, an attempt to impose one's own metanarrative in the guise of an absolute truth."[/FONT]
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2000/november13/8.76.html
In other words, there is no real truth, and of course, for Christians, that means you can have an opinion, a definition of a word that has no Biblical reality, and any claim to the former definitions for those words, and even theology is just a "dead tradition."
Postmodern Christianity is rampant in this forum, and it seeks to change the very meaning of Christianity. These people love to point out that definitions that stood for 2000 years, but don't "feel" good, can be changed by either slightly rewriting history, or the lexicons. With no reference to history, or scholarship; these people are deceivers, and they buy into the lie that there is no objective truth!
This is the absolute opposite of Christianity, which has THE truth in Jesus Christ! And all those doctrines resulting from the Fall, our sin, and Jesus dying on the cross for our sins, and he was resurrected, are changing to mean, well, whatever you feel like you want it to mean. So, sin is cleansed forever, and it is ok to keep sinning, because Jesus already died for that sin.
Or repentance doesn't mean turning from sin, it just means "changing your mind" which in Greek translates each word within the compound word, but not the meaning of the new word! Words intensify or radically change in compound words, and metanoia is one of those words. In other words, moving from sin, to following Christ which is the real definition of Biblical repentance, becomes changing your mind, like changing whether you want to go to the farmer's market or the grocery store! What trivial garbage! And yet, those exact words were used by someone in this forum last summer to describe the postmodern version of repentance.
Postmodern Christianity says, "How can anything be a heresy, if there is no objective truth?" Or "As postmodern, we can reject everything in the past with regards to theology, and say it is just a tradition, because we have literally changed the meanings of the words in the Bible."
This sets up a dichotomy of "tradition" versus "fresh Word." Anything traditional is bad, anything new and "flaky" is GREAT! It is a revelation from God, not that stuffy old Bible! That is just a dead old tradition! Forgetting always that making up new things, the way you want them to be, is also the postmodern position, and it is heretical! And of course, nothing better than pulling a verse out of context, and forgetting all the qualifying surrounding verses.
To some in this forum, having no objective truth that means that you can take any false, or heretical teacher, changing Biblical Christianity and the words, the phrases, clauses, sentences, paragraphs, chapters and books, and use them to support whatever you want. How convenient!
This is NOT about people who disagree on the order of events in salvation, such as Calvinists and Arminians. Those are both acknowledged doctrines, professed by millions of people. The points of disagreement about timing, about the extent of God's reach to save, and so-called "free will" are well within the discussions of biblical Christianity.
"In postmodern culture, it’s impossible to separate what people believe from who they are, because the act of believing something makes it true (for those who believe). Therefore, rejecting the content of faith means rejecting the person who constructed that truth. Truth now means personal preference and personal empowerment. It would be no more appropriate to question the validity of a person’s belief than to critique his or her choice from a dinner menu. Striving together to discover truth through debate and spirited discussion is definitely out."
http://www.equip.org/article/the-postmodern-challenge/
Perhaps this is why the fights in this forum get so vicious. When taking away the "truth" that someone believes, or wants to believe, by arguing from the bible and conservative scholarship over the past 2 millennia, means that you are rejecting that person! This is when heretical beliefs become personal and people get hurt in the discussions we have been having. Which is really regrettable and sad! Because these people have merely created their own truth, and there is always hope for them to come back to objective truth, rather than the subjective truth of the postmodern heresy!
It's too bad so many have been seduced by the postmodern lie, that whatever truth you want to believe, is true, and any truth that is Biblical, or in any way from the 2000 years of Biblical history, is just another opinion, but one stuck in tradition, without these postmodernists realizing that all they have done is fallen in with the world, and created their own tradition, albeit a heretical one.
"But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction." 2 Peter 2:1
This is Peter warning about cults and groups in his day, but a warning which should resound to our day and age, with false preachers on the internet, preaching "another gospel" and supporters flooding various of these deceivers by flooding the forum with the truth that there is no truth, for truth is not Jesus, but whatever you want it to be.
Or this warning from Paul:
"For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough." 2 Cor. 11:4
Then there are some that believe the "post modern heresy" to them are women preachers/pastors. They too have re-defined the scriptures that for 2,000 years have been taught that only males are to be pastors and teachers.
To the "modern day women preachers" - they don't think they are in heresy but to others they are.
I was taught this in my religious teachings but I "repented" and now believe the opposite and don't believe it is a heresy for women to preach/pastor and teach anymore.
To the "modern day women preachers" - they don't think they are in heresy but to others they are.
I was taught this in my religious teachings but I "repented" and now believe the opposite and don't believe it is a heresy for women to preach/pastor and teach anymore.
Heresy for me is something that denies a core belief that changes our
relationship with God and the role of Christ in our lives.
So if someone says there are no sins, and all sin is forgiven, so no
repentance, sorrow, confession and getting right with God, that would
be heresy. It changes how we view morality, obligation, guilt,
conscience, honesty, integrity.
It stops people confronting sin and setting real loving boundaries on
behaviour and responsibility to others.
Without this all reference points disappear, and so does love. But to the corrupt
and guilty it is pure joy, because nothing they do has any implications, it is just
awkward, even indulging in the flesh is only carnal behaviour, which immature
people do. But decrying this as sinful behaviour or heresy is total unbelief
and worthy of hell.
So heresy often comes with the barb. True biblical christian behaviour is
condemned and made evil, and the version the heresy encourages is the true
revelation no matter how damaging and hypocritical.
Where a teaching is just miss-guided is often shown in a change of emphasis,
rather than essential condemnation. For instance anglicans who christen children
and baptists who perform full immersion baptism will share fellowship together
and regard each other as expression of the same faith.
A heresy often ends up with isolating one group as saved and the rest as evil
liars, the spawn of the enemy, who should be fought and expelled at all costs.
Now ofcourse this is a pure survival idea, because if members of the group
realised the difference is minor between their group and the rest, the group would
cease to exist, and its extremes be exposed and rejected. So the biggest enemies
are those who threaten the groups existance and not sinners or the truly evil.
relationship with God and the role of Christ in our lives.
So if someone says there are no sins, and all sin is forgiven, so no
repentance, sorrow, confession and getting right with God, that would
be heresy. It changes how we view morality, obligation, guilt,
conscience, honesty, integrity.
It stops people confronting sin and setting real loving boundaries on
behaviour and responsibility to others.
Without this all reference points disappear, and so does love. But to the corrupt
and guilty it is pure joy, because nothing they do has any implications, it is just
awkward, even indulging in the flesh is only carnal behaviour, which immature
people do. But decrying this as sinful behaviour or heresy is total unbelief
and worthy of hell.
So heresy often comes with the barb. True biblical christian behaviour is
condemned and made evil, and the version the heresy encourages is the true
revelation no matter how damaging and hypocritical.
Where a teaching is just miss-guided is often shown in a change of emphasis,
rather than essential condemnation. For instance anglicans who christen children
and baptists who perform full immersion baptism will share fellowship together
and regard each other as expression of the same faith.
A heresy often ends up with isolating one group as saved and the rest as evil
liars, the spawn of the enemy, who should be fought and expelled at all costs.
Now ofcourse this is a pure survival idea, because if members of the group
realised the difference is minor between their group and the rest, the group would
cease to exist, and its extremes be exposed and rejected. So the biggest enemies
are those who threaten the groups existance and not sinners or the truly evil.
