Homosexuality Is Abomination unto the Lord

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What does the God of the creation think about homosexuality? He is very clear on identifying the act of homosexuality as a sin. If an individual sows iniquity, they will reap corruption. Those of us that believe and know the Truth are not careful to say…“There is a pestilence in the land because of ‘homosexual’ activity.” There has been an increase in the acceptance of homosexuality in our country as indicated by the figures collected by the U.S. Census. The U.S. Census Bureau reported that, “The number of American households reporting same-sex partners skyrocketed over the past decade.” The Census counted 1,933 same-sex couple households last year in Vermont, up from an estimated 370 in 1990, a fivefold jump. Delaware had an even greater increase from an estimated 212 to 1,868 households, a nearly nine fold increase. Vermont and Delaware were the first states to receive the latest wave of data, with all 50 to get the material by late August. Four months before Vermont's civil union’s law took effect, the Census Bureau asked Americans questions designed to get the best picture yet of how many live with a partner of the same sex. Unmarried partner statistics in 1990 were based on a sample of responses; 2000 figures were based on a count of all households. Fewer than 5 percent of the country's unmarried partner households in 1990 were made up of same-sex couples. Comparable numbers for 2000 will not be known until all state figures are released. As the statistics indicate, there is a wave of acceptance of homosexuality in our country. While same-sex couples in the United States historically have been denied
Legal recognition, in 2004, Massachusetts enacted legislation making same-sex marriage legal. Since then, several other states (and the District of Columbia) have passed similar laws. As a result, the number of same-sex couples who select the relationship category “husband or wife” is expected to increase as well. Recent estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey (ACS) suggest that the number of same-sex couples reporting “husband or wife” is much larger than the actual number of same-sex couples legally married in the U.S.
Even though the masses may accept this let’s see what the Most High God thinks about this subject. We will take a look at the Law first. Once we have established homosexuality as being a sin, then we will look at the Lord’s wrath being poured out because of this abomination. Let’s go into Leviticus the 20th chapter and read the 13th verse.
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

“….they shall surely be put to death...” Being that we are under the new covenant, which are the same laws that were given to Moses, no man is clean enough to put anyone to death, the Lord will take care of that Judgment.
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses (Hebrews 10:28.)
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:31).
For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. (Hebrews 10:26-27)
 

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As much as homosexuality is an abomination, I believe all sin can be considered such as well.
Scripture is clear that all form of sexual immorality (including adultery and fornication), drunkeness, those who have idols, or really it says that any unrighteous is unfit for the kingdom of God...
Some people seem to like to limit this to homosexuality and forget about the rest...and some just like to ignore the issues all together.

The real problem is that the Church has become so comfortable with these things. Instead of the Church affecting the culture like it used too, it has allowed this culture to infiltrate and become part of the Church world. Really it's unacceptable, and at some point somebody is going to have to take responsibility and realize the Church is not doing its job in fixing these problem. (Which, is by spreading the gospel to these people, instead of just condemning them before they get a chance, and to disciple those who accept Christ, instead of feeding them a sugar coated Christianity.
 
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Homosexuality is no more or less a sin than any other sin. James 2:10 puts all sin on an equal level. You wonder why homosexuals aren't comming to repentance, it's because some finger pointers are trying to elevate homosexuality as a worse sin than their sins. (I've had several Christians get offended at me for the homosexuality page on my website when I quoted James 2:10 which put homosexuality on an equal level as thier sins.)

Another fun fact, you don't need to preach that homosexuality is a sin. I guarantee you that if you ask 99% of homosexuals in the U.S. what they know about Christianity, they'll tell you that they know homosexuality is a sin, and maybe something about Jesus.
 
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Actually the whole concept of we moderns call homosexuality did not exist in the 1st century. The translations of scripture which use that word have borrowed it from long afterward. The closest thing to that concept was the male prostitutes who inhabited certain Greek temples.There just were no pairs of homosexuals living together and forming relationship like the modern phenomena. Sin certainly applied to those who went to those temples.
 
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Homosexuality is no more or less a sin than any other sin. James 2:10 puts all sin on an equal level. You wonder why homosexuals aren't comming to repentance, it's because some finger pointers are trying to elevate homosexuality as a worse sin than their sins. (I've had several Christians get offended at me for the homosexuality page on my website when I quoted James 2:10 which put homosexuality on an equal level as thier sins.)

Another fun fact, you don't need to preach that homosexuality is a sin. I guarantee you that if you ask 99% of homosexuals in the U.S. what they know about Christianity, they'll tell you that they know homosexuality is a sin, and maybe something about Jesus.
I agree, yes its wrong, but so is arrogantly judging them, we have no right to point fingers, unless we are jesus himself.. and well... we arent.
I know a few gays they are not bad people, and christians need to be less shocked and more forgiving and maybe they will feel safer to approach and deal with their issues, without the looks of disgust from the high and mighty in churches.
 
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I always wonder about these guys obsessed with what homosexuals are doing. As a very straight heterosexual guy, I have no interest in what they are doing. It's not a world I obsess over. I do not wake up with a cold sweat in the middle of the night thinking about man on man sexual activity.

I'm too busy loving my own wife and enjoying life.

Meanwhile very evil people are running the world, crashing economies with their unregulated financial trading, destroying minimum wages, stopping universal healthcare being able to heal the sick and poor.

So why would I focus on a couple of people I never see, having sex, I never see.

To me it speaks to the unconscious desires of the people obsessed with it.
 
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Homosexuality is no more or less a sin than any other sin. James 2:10 puts all sin on an equal level. You wonder why homosexuals aren't comming to repentance, it's because some finger pointers are trying to elevate homosexuality as a worse sin than their sins. (I've had several Christians get offended at me for the homosexuality page on my website when I quoted James 2:10 which put homosexuality on an equal level as thier sins.)

Another fun fact, you don't need to preach that homosexuality is a sin. I guarantee you that if you ask 99% of homosexuals in the U.S. what they know about Christianity, they'll tell you that they know homosexuality is a sin, and maybe something about Jesus.
You quote James 2:10 to show that all sin is on the same level! Well I would like to propose something different...Saying all sin is equal is like saying all wrong is equally wrong! Like stealing a piece of bread to avoid starvation is equally bad to stealing somebodies child... Like punching someone in the face in an argument is equally wrong to shooting somebody in cold blood because they offended you! What James 2:10 is getting at, is not that all sin is equal (because it is not Matthew 12:31-32) but rather any sin-small or great means we fall short of the glory of God... and also, by Moses law, different sins had different punishment! Note also that homosexuality is destable to God... Leviticus 20:13 !

Jesus died on the cross and that is why we have hope to be in relationship with God. All sin is not equal!I am not having a crack at you "Megaman"...Just discussing the topic

I know that God has given these people over to their perverse minds... Romans 1:24...what intrigues me is why they want to get married in a church? How can a pastor marry gay couples? It is against Christianity (Leviticus 20.13)!!! If they want to get married, let them do it in a park! However, they want to symbolize God joining them! They want to be accepted by society! I feel the church should welcome in anybody that is hurt or need so that we can guide them to live for God... If you have sinned and need a family the church should be there...But back in South Africa, A young girl got pregnant and the church kicked her out!!! I mean, WOW, doesn't she now need the church's help more than ever?? It is important that Jesus remains the center of our focus! Jesus didn't come to change the law! he came to fulfill it! If it was abhorred by God then, it will still be so today! Note: God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of this!!! When the 3 angels came to Lot's house, the men from the city wanted to rape them! They didn't accept Lot's offer of his daughters, they insisted on having the men... And God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah!! Please note, this is a very very serious sin!!

There is hope!! (Matthew 12:31) This sin can be forgiven!! Jesus loves us all! We need to preach the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Commander to the world and let the Holy Spirit Guide us!! Amen
 
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You quote James 2:10 to show that all sin is on the same level! Well I would like to propose something different...Saying all sin is equal is like saying all wrong is equally wrong! Like stealing a piece of bread to avoid starvation is equally bad to stealing somebodies child... Like punching someone in the face in an argument is equally wrong to shooting somebody in cold blood because they offended you! What James 2:10 is getting at, is not that all sin is equal (because it is not Matthew 12:31-32) but rather any sin-small or great means we fall short of the glory of God... and also, by Moses law, different sins had different punishment! Note also that homosexuality is destable to God... Leviticus 20:13 !
The wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23), so I don't know where you're getting this notion of small sin vs. great sin. You yourself even said that all sin means we fall short of the glory of God. Small sin vs. big sin is a teaching of Islam (and perhaps some other religions), but there's nothing in the Bible that would even suggest the notion of small sin vs. big sin, since breaking one law is like breaking them all (James 2:10).

Jesus died on the cross and that is why we have hope to be in relationship with God. All sin is not equal!I am not having a crack at you "Megaman"...Just discussing the topic
I'm not sure why you put my name in quotes here. And just for the record, I never denied that homosexuality is a sin.
 

superdave5221

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What I have seen in the past in CC on this issue is a circling of the wagons by those who see homosexuality being accepted in our secular society as a normal way of life and see this a threat to societal mores as Paul did in the Corinthian church, and those who have accepted to a limited degree the humanistic teaching of subjectivism.

To begin with, all sins are not created equal. It is true that all sins are equally bad when it comes to salvation, but as children of God, who have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savior, we are not concerned with salvation. What we are concerned with instead, is the effects of sin on our communities, our church families, and the unbelieving world around us. It should not be hard to realize that a little white lie, or cutting someone off on the highway and cursing them, which are bad things to do and sinful, is not the same thing as cheating on our spouses, fornication, and homosexuality, in terms of the effects on individuals and those related to them.

Consider the following statistics that I lifted from William Lane Craig's book, Hard Questions, Real Answers. Mr. Craig is quoting statistics fully documented by Dr. Thomas Schmidt in his book Straight and Narrow.

a. Homosexuality leads to promiscuity. 75% of homosexual men have more than 100 partners in their lifetime.
b. Only 8% of homosexual men and 7% of homosexual women have partnerships lasting more than three years.
c. Homosexuals are three times more likely to be problem drinkers.
d. 47% of homosexuals have a history of alcohol abuse and 51% a history of drug abuse.
e. 40% of male homosexuals have a history of major depression as compared with 3% in the general population.
f. homosexual men have a suicide rate six times the average of heterosexuals, and women homosexuals are twice as high
g. homosexual behavior in men leads to high instances of prostrate damage, ulcers and ruptures, chronic incontinence and diarrhea.
h. studies have shown that homosexual men are more likely to be pedophiles
i. 75% of homosexual men carry one or more STD's wholly apart from AIDS.

So, as you can see, the rosy picture that Hollywood and the Media paints is totally different from reality. And to accept the Media's answer to such statistics as a result of negative attitudes of society towards homosexuals is naive at best.

A point needs to be made here. The bible condemns the practice of homosexuality. It does not condemn homosexuals.

I would like to quote William Lane Craig from his book, Hard Questions Real Answers here.

First, if you are a homosexual or feel that inclination, keep yourself pure. You should practice abstinence from all sexual activity. I know that is difficult, but really what God is asking you is pretty much the same thing that He requires of all single people. That means keeping not only your body pure, but especially your mind. Just as heterosexual men should avoid pornography and fantasizing, you too, need to keep your thought-life clean. Resist the temptation to rationalize sin by saying, "God made me this way." God has made it very clear that He does not want you to indulge your desires, but to honor Him by keeping your mind and body pure. Finally, seek professional Christian counseling. With time and effort, you can come to enjoy normal, heterosexual relations. There is hope.

It is important that we do not condemn homosexuals, for God does not condemn us who are in Christ. We should be understanding, and continue to support and help them in their struggles, as we often need that help in our own struggles.

But it would be unloving and unChristian, to simply accept this way of life, because we feel the need to conform to the image of the world, which demands us to be relativistic in our thinking, or worse, to accept society's interpretation that because we are not perfect, then we are simply hypocrites in trying to help others to find the peace and security of fellowship in the family of God.
 

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Christians are in an awkward position when it comes to dealing with sinners and sin. When I express that I would never vote for same-sex marriage, I end up getting sucked into a debate. At the end of which, what I stand for is nothing but religious mumbo jumbo in their eyes. It's hard to show that I don't support sin because knowing the right way is illusive. The question is: What would Jesus have us do?
 
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As much as homosexuality is an abomination, I believe all sin can be considered such as well.
Scripture is clear that all form of sexual immorality (including adultery and fornication), drunkeness, those who have idols, or really it says that any unrighteous is unfit for the kingdom of God...
Some people seem to like to limit this to homosexuality and forget about the rest...and some just like to ignore the issues all together.

The real problem is that the Church has become so comfortable with these things. Instead of the Church affecting the culture like it used too, it has allowed this culture to infiltrate and become part of the Church world. Really it's unacceptable, and at some point somebody is going to have to take responsibility and realize the Church is not doing its job in fixing these problem. (Which, is by spreading the gospel to these people, instead of just condemning them before they get a chance, and to disciple those who accept Christ, instead of feeding them a sugar coated Christianity.

What you are saying reminds me of James 2: 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
 
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Certainly homosexuality is a sin:

[6] But from the beginning of creation, `God made them male and female.'
[7] `For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife,
[8] and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh. Mark 10:6-8 RSV


I think homosexuality is a type of adultery—all adultery is sin.
 
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Homosexuality is no more or less a sin than any other sin. James 2:10 puts all sin on an equal level. You wonder why homosexuals aren't comming to repentance, it's because some finger pointers are trying to elevate homosexuality as a worse sin than their sins. (I've had several Christians get offended at me for the homosexuality page on my website when I quoted James 2:10 which put homosexuality on an equal level as thier sins.)

Another fun fact, you don't need to preach that homosexuality is a sin. I guarantee you that if you ask 99% of homosexuals in the U.S. what they know about Christianity, they'll tell you that they know homosexuality is a sin, and maybe something about Jesus.
Being a homosexuality goes against the course a nature, samething with having sex with animals, these are abomination unto the Lord. I'm still posting this lesson, but we will see that the Lord had to come down and also send angels down to deal with this act.
 
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Christians are in an awkward position when it comes to dealing with sinners and sin. When I express that I would never vote for same-sex marriage, I end up getting sucked into a debate. At the end of which, what I stand for is nothing but religious mumbo jumbo in their eyes. It's hard to show that I don't support sin because knowing the right way is illusive. The question is: What would Jesus have us do?
Jesus said in Matthew 7: 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.



This is a good message from the Lord. stand strong in the Lord. When you get in those debates whip out that Bible, and read that word of God and you see the ones who is listening and the ones who is not. But this is the battle...Jesus said in Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

 
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We must remember brothers and sisters, Moses was on mount Horeb for forty days and forty nights. He received many more laws than the Ten Commandments. For example, there were more laws made between Moses and the Lord that were not classified as one of the ten. Take a look at Deuteronomy 29:1:
These are the words of the covenant, which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb. (Deuteronomy 29:1)
Notice what the scripture says, “beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb.” We see that other Laws were given to Moses alongside the covenant (Ten Commandments). An individual might say, “Those laws were for the tribes of Israel.” Well, let’s see if the Lords laws only apply to the sons and daughters of Jacob.
Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God. (Leviticus 24:22)
One manner of law for Israel, as well as for the rest of the sons of Adam. Let’s back up to Leviticus the 18th chapter and start at the 22nd verse.
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: (Leviticus 18:22-24)

Note what the scripture says, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” Note something else in this set of scriptures. “Defile not yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you.” This statement should have a person shaking in their boots.

When the Lord cast out the Canaanites, He sent the children of Israel into these countries to cast these nations out because of sin. The sons of Jacob did not go alone to do battle. His mighty angels went with them as long as they kept themselves from sin. This is not a game sisters and brothers; the God of the creation is serious. When He returns at His second coming He will deal with man face to face. We must keep ourselves from willful sin. But, people try to make excuses for everything that is contrary to the word of God. As seen by modern medicine’s explanation of homosexuality: “With the birth of modern psychiatry, homosexuality came to be viewed widely as less a sin than a sickness. This attitude derived from unscientific research into the origin and nature of homosexuality, unscientific because based solely on studies of maladjusted psychiatric patients. Theories arising from such research suggested that disorders in family relationships, particularly mother-son relationships, give rise to homosexual behavior. Such theories, based on the assumption that homosexuals are necessarily psychologically abnormal, are not convincing. Quote from Grolier multimedia encyclopedia).

Why isn’t this thought convincing? Take a look at this verse in the book of James.
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. (James 1:14-15)
 
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What I have seen in the past in CC on this issue is a circling of the wagons by those who see homosexuality being accepted in our secular society as a normal way of life and see this a threat to societal mores as Paul did in the Corinthian church, and those who have accepted to a limited degree the humanistic teaching of subjectivism.

To begin with, all sins are not created equal. It is true that all sins are equally bad when it comes to salvation, but as children of God, who have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savior, we are not concerned with salvation. What we are concerned with instead, is the effects of sin on our communities, our church families, and the unbelieving world around us. It should not be hard to realize that a little white lie, or cutting someone off on the highway and cursing them, which are bad things to do and sinful, is not the same thing as cheating on our spouses, fornication, and homosexuality, in terms of the effects on individuals and those related to them.

Consider the following statistics that I lifted from William Lane Craig's book, Hard Questions, Real Answers. Mr. Craig is quoting statistics fully documented by Dr. Thomas Schmidt in his book Straight and Narrow.

a. Homosexuality leads to promiscuity. 75% of homosexual men have more than 100 partners in their lifetime.
b. Only 8% of homosexual men and 7% of homosexual women have partnerships lasting more than three years.
c. Homosexuals are three times more likely to be problem drinkers.
d. 47% of homosexuals have a history of alcohol abuse and 51% a history of drug abuse.
e. 40% of male homosexuals have a history of major depression as compared with 3% in the general population.
f. homosexual men have a suicide rate six times the average of heterosexuals, and women homosexuals are twice as high
g. homosexual behavior in men leads to high instances of prostrate damage, ulcers and ruptures, chronic incontinence and diarrhea.
h. studies have shown that homosexual men are more likely to be pedophiles
i. 75% of homosexual men carry one or more STD's wholly apart from AIDS.

So, as you can see, the rosy picture that Hollywood and the Media paints is totally different from reality. And to accept the Media's answer to such statistics as a result of negative attitudes of society towards homosexuals is naive at best.

A point needs to be made here. The bible condemns the practice of homosexuality. It does not condemn homosexuals.

I would like to quote William Lane Craig from his book, Hard Questions Real Answers here.

First, if you are a homosexual or feel that inclination, keep yourself pure. You should practice abstinence from all sexual activity. I know that is difficult, but really what God is asking you is pretty much the same thing that He requires of all single people. That means keeping not only your body pure, but especially your mind. Just as heterosexual men should avoid pornography and fantasizing, you too, need to keep your thought-life clean. Resist the temptation to rationalize sin by saying, "God made me this way." God has made it very clear that He does not want you to indulge your desires, but to honor Him by keeping your mind and body pure. Finally, seek professional Christian counseling. With time and effort, you can come to enjoy normal, heterosexual relations. There is hope.

It is important that we do not condemn homosexuals, for God does not condemn us who are in Christ. We should be understanding, and continue to support and help them in their struggles, as we often need that help in our own struggles.

But it would be unloving and unChristian, to simply accept this way of life, because we feel the need to conform to the image of the world, which demands us to be relativistic in our thinking, or worse, to accept society's interpretation that because we are not perfect, then we are simply hypocrites in trying to help others to find the peace and security of fellowship in the family of God.
Very well said superdave. And just to clarify, I was talking in terms of salvation when I was talking about homosexuality and little sin vs. big sin. I supposed it was my fault on not clarifying that.

Christians are in an awkward position when it comes to dealing with sinners and sin. When I express that I would never vote for same-sex marriage, I end up getting sucked into a debate. At the end of which, what I stand for is nothing but religious mumbo jumbo in their eyes. It's hard to show that I don't support sin because knowing the right way is illusive. The question is: What would Jesus have us do?
Actually, I've found that homosexuals are more open to Christianity once you tell them that God doesn't hate homosexuals and that Christians are called to love all people, as well as not making homosexuality out to be worse then your own sins (in terms of salvation) since all have sinned and fallen short.

Also, homosexuality is also wrong on a scienfitic/biological basis, given our anatomies. In simplest terms, the parts don't fit. Homosexuality also doesn't do anything to aid in evolution, if they want to go down that route.
 

shrimp

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that's interesting because all of the homosexuals and their supporters that i have come across were not open at all. In fact they were more interested in putting me out.
 
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Very well said superdave. And just to clarify, I was talking in terms of salvation when I was talking about homosexuality and little sin vs. big sin. I supposed it was my fault on not clarifying that.



Actually, I've found that homosexuals are more open to Christianity once you tell them that God doesn't hate homosexuals and that Christians are called to love all people, as well as not making homosexuality out to be worse then your own sins (in terms of salvation) since all have sinned and fallen short.

Also, homosexuality is also wrong on a scienfitic/biological basis, given our anatomies. In simplest terms, the parts don't fit. Homosexuality also doesn't do anything to aid in evolution, if they want to go down that route.
In the old testament if you do some research or wait until I get to that part of the lesson, you will find that they where in the church in those days as well.
 
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that's interesting because all of the homosexuals and their supporters that i have come across were not open at all. In fact they were more interested in putting me out.
Believe or not that makes sense. Lets go into Acts 5: 27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them, 28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man’s blood upon us. So we see some condition in staying strong in the Lord's word and continue teaching. Lets keep down to verses 33 When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them. This verse is going to repeat itself in the future, people will kill you for teaching the truth, but the Lord have a much more greater reward. Let skip down to verse 38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: 39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God. 40 And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. 41 And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name. 42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ. Keep these verses in mind and keep preaching the truth, because the truth in Christ is not pretty to a person of the world!